Almost Outted By My Niece!


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Code3GT
September 22, 2008, 05:36 AM
Went to dinner with my mom, sister and two nieces (11 and 13). As we were walking in, my 11 yo niece backhand swats at me after a funny comment from me. I wasnt looking and she tagged either the corner of the slide or maybe the hammer/beavertail of my 1911 :D I got the laughing "OW! What was that??" to which I simply replied, "duh, my abs of steel!" and started a new conversation to avoid any further curiosity. And no safety issues were present as the hammer was down, just FYI.

Now, I been able to fully exercise my right and OC'd here in the great state of Texas, that would've never happened since my scary killing tool would've been fully visible and "injury" avoidable. :banghead:

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REPOMAN
September 22, 2008, 07:41 AM
Leave it to the kids............:eek:

Thernlund
September 22, 2008, 07:59 AM
Yeah. Kids are funny like that. Nice recovery. :)

...of my 1911 ... ...the hammer was down...

Hmm. Unusual.


-T.

Ben Shepherd
September 22, 2008, 08:41 AM
I had one similar.

Standing in line at a local buffet. Folks behind me had a kid of about 6-7 years old. He was outta control. Running around, yelling, doing whatever he wanted. I think his parents were of the "control the child with a quiet pleading voice type".

Anyway, he goes to run between myself and the handrail.......

TUNK!!

Not enough room. His head bounced of my concealed SP101, HARD. More than a few heard the noise and turned to look. Here's this kid backing up eyeballing ne and rubbing his head. He couldn't figure out what he'd hit.

My comment-
"I think he bounced his head off the rail or something."

All the adults were satisfied with that. He wasn't though. He knew that is was something on me that he'd hit. He'd leaned toward me speciffically to avoid the gaurdrail. But nothing farther was said.

GRB
September 22, 2008, 08:51 AM
I just don't get the 'need' to lie in situations ike this. I am not necessarily saying that one need or should not lie when believed aprpopriate (yes I beleive lying can be quite appropriate at times) but that I do not understand doing so in such a situation as the one described. I regularly tell my nephew not to slap me, grab me, or otherwise touch the area where my gun rides my hip. My sister is no friend of the fact that I carry in her home, but neither does she tell me not too. She appreciates that I am straightforward about the gun thing with her son because she knows I am trying to avoid an accident.

All the best,
GB

NonConformist
September 22, 2008, 08:52 AM
Wait a minute...You carry a 1911...with the hammer down? :scrutiny:

Why? Cocked and 'locked' is the only way to go!

Bob F.
September 22, 2008, 10:26 AM
Nonconformist: My sentiments, exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!

Stay safe.
Bob

helz_mcfugly
September 22, 2008, 10:40 AM
I was at my bank not to long ago and one of the female loan officers came and put her arm around my lower back where I had my Glock 22 .40 at the time. She pulled her hand away and said "oh my" with a smile on her face and I just replied "carefull" and nothing else was said. Here in TX I think the people as a whole are use to alot of people having CHL's

Aran
September 22, 2008, 11:09 AM
I carry a CZ-75 with the hammer down, what's so weird about carry with the hammer down?

ZeSpectre
September 22, 2008, 11:22 AM
I had one similar.

Standing in line at a local buffet. Folks behind me had a kid of about 6-7 years old. He was outta control. Running around, yelling, doing whatever he wanted. I think his parents were of the "control the child with a quiet pleading voice type".

Anyway, he goes to run between myself and the handrail.......

TUNK!!

Not enough room. His head bounced of my concealed SP101, HARD. More than a few heard the noise and turned to look. Here's this kid backing up eyeballing ne and rubbing his head. He couldn't figure out what he'd hit.

My comment-
"I think he bounced his head off the rail or something."

All the adults were satisfied with that. He wasn't though. He knew that is was something on me that he'd hit. He'd leaned toward me speciffically to avoid the gaurdrail. But nothing farther was said.

Oh man, had something like that happen once with a kid running up and down an escalator. He tripped, and thumped into my pistol HARD. I'm surprised he didn't have SIG 229 imprinted in his forehead.

His mom was very apologetic as they walked away, she didn't really seem to notice how subdued the (now dazed) kid was <evil grin>.

TX1911fan
September 22, 2008, 11:30 AM
Aran, if your CZ has a decocker, it's meant to be carried hammer down, and has a safe way of accomplishing that. The 1911, in many people's opinion, was meant to be carried cocked, with the safety engaged. There is no "safe" way to lower the hammer on a 1911, since you would be pulling the trigger on a loaded handgun when you are not intending to shoot something with it. I carry my 1911 cocked and locked.

kevindsingleton
September 22, 2008, 11:40 AM
Not only is it unsafe to lower the hammer on a loaded 1911, how do you prevent an AD with the hammer down on a live round, and no safety engaged? The only way I'd carry a 1911 with the hammer down is with an empty chamber, and that's no way to carry!

Helz,

Where's this bank where the female loan officers get all gropey? I need to open an account!

Aran
September 22, 2008, 11:54 AM
I see. Well, I'm not familiar with 1911s (They don't really do it for me, dunno why.) so I wasn't aware of the difference between the two.

Norinco982lover
September 22, 2008, 03:35 PM
I have a CZ-75b without the decocker so I carry it cocked and locked as well. (much safer than hammer down...I'd rather carry it without one in the chamber than hammer down).

ZeSpectre
September 22, 2008, 03:48 PM
I have a CZ-75b without the decocker so I carry it cocked and locked as well. (much safer than hammer down...I'd rather carry it without one in the chamber than hammer down).

You folks do realize the the CZ-75b has both a half-cock notch AND a firing pin interrupter right?

Tacbandit
September 22, 2008, 03:56 PM
"I got the laughing "OW! What was that??" to which I simply replied, "duh, my abs of steel!" and started a new conversation to avoid any further curiosity. And no safety issues were present as the hammer was down, just FYI."


Nice recovery...!!!
Just barely avoided one of those in a grocery store...a lady friend and her children came up to hug my wife and I, and at the last second I realized she was about to encounter my 1911, so I sort of quickly broke out of the hug, and
exclaimed "it's so good to see you.." Yeh, it was kinda spastic and awkward,
but I did avoid the alternative..."abs of steel" wouldn't have worked for me.:)

Eljay
September 22, 2008, 03:59 PM
Kevin, depending on the type of 1911, hammer down is pretty safe but kinda slow. Series 80 Colts, Kimber 'II's have a firing pin block, (probally the ONLY time they do any good), and even with out the block the firing pin does not protrude from the breach face with the hammer down. But I agree, cocked and locked, or carry something else.

springmom
September 22, 2008, 04:04 PM
Church is the usual place I get hugged by non-family members, and it happens a lot. I simply turn my left side slightly toward my friend and extend my left arm to reciprocate. If I get double arm hugged anyway, I make sure that my elbow is down at my right side.

I did have a friend bump into my Jagwear once while it was carrying my Kimber. She raised an eyebrow, but I just said "safer than carrying a purse". The fact that this was true in more than one sense didn't have to be spelled out.

Springmom

jad0110
September 22, 2008, 04:12 PM
Never had anyone run into my gun, but I did almost manage to out myself at restaraunt recently. This particular restaurant had wooden booths and I managaed to THONK my 1911 against it pretty hard. The people at the table across from us asked if it hurt, to which I replied "No, just knocked my PDA, that's all".

PDA = Personal Defense Accessory :evil:

I wasnt looking and she tagged either the corner of the slide or maybe the hammer/beavertail of my 1911 ... And no safety issues were present as the hammer was down, just FYI.

Assuming the gun is in good working order (sear in good shape, 1/4 cock knotch in spec), this would not had been an issue at all with the gun in condition 1, cocked and locked. Just FYI. I recall a story that popped up a while back on the 1911forum about a guy who lost his 1911 out of his backpack while riding a crotch rocket doing 70+ on the highway. Wasn't loaded, but it was cocked and locked.

When he was able to retrieve his pistol, it was clear that it had been run over a few times, and was missing a chunk of metal from the hammer (as if it landed on the hammer); but it was still cocked and locked! :D

jonmerritt
September 22, 2008, 06:23 PM
My abs of steel would have to be oh new keg installed

mgregg85
September 22, 2008, 06:26 PM
My standard reply on this is that its my cell phone.

3KillerBs
September 22, 2008, 08:57 PM
I'm having to break a 20yo habit of putting my right arm around my DH's waist when standing/sitting to his left because my hand ends up on the gun butt at 4 o'clock and, besides it being a bad idea to rest your hand on a gun butt, it prints like crazy. :lol:

Ben Shepherd
September 22, 2008, 10:57 PM
Jad0110:

Other side of that coin for me:

Resturuant with wood booths, guy kind of diagonal from me scoots back....
THUNK!!

Oh, I knew the sound, my head whipped that direction instanly. We made eye contact. He looked at me kinda nervous like. I just grinned and went back to eating. NO ONE else in the whole place noticed.

I was done before he and his wife, so I quietly walked past his table and said very quietly "Sounded like a 1911?" He just grinned.

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