Derrginer Rider? Anyone got one... .17 balls anyone?


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Mp7
September 22, 2008, 07:11 AM
Hi Guys,

i just had UPS deliver my freshly auctioned
Derringer Rider Replica.

http://www.derringer.de/4-rid-37.jpg

...wherethe.. do i get 4,3mm /.17 lead balls for it??
Has anyone epxerimented with adding a tiny bit of propellant
to the cap... for more pleasure?

Cheers, Mp7

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1858rem
September 22, 2008, 08:26 AM
neat little guns there, i think bbs for bb guns are too big... so dont try shooting them, not to mention they are steel. you could try some haevy shot sizes, try a box loaded with #2 shot, #4 is too small, and you may actually have to go to buckshot. that would be a good starting point though.

DrLaw
September 22, 2008, 08:58 AM
Everything I have seen on these little guns say, no powder. Cap pressure only.

As for lead balls, you might try Midway. I think one of the BB manufacturers they list makes lead ball BB's. I think Cabela's and Dixie carry the .17 balls, too.

The Doc is out now. :cool:

bonza
September 22, 2008, 06:27 PM
MP7 is in Germany, so ordering them from Cabela's might take a while & they should be available in his area as the old Haenel rifles used lead BBs. Gamo, H&N, & others make a .17 caliber lead BB that should be just the ticket for that Rider. Here's a link:
http://www.4komma5.de/advanced_search_result.php?XTCsid=6c7d18de5b30d783e5e1a7380883796c&keywords=Rundkugel

KiltedClaymore
September 22, 2008, 08:30 PM
cabellas.

scrat
September 22, 2008, 08:57 PM
cap only. hmmm good thing i dont have one. i would be too tempted to put in a couple of grains of holy black in there

Chawbaccer
September 22, 2008, 10:01 PM
Number "B" shot is .17. That is not "BB" which is .18

Mp7
September 23, 2008, 06:10 AM
Thanks guys, ...i already found a source for them... at pharmacy-prices though.

like 20$ for 500 balls..... but hey...

(Had a **** workweek... like 70+ hours.. i think iŽll
borrow a .50AE at the range and do some boooom!)

HisSoldier
September 23, 2008, 10:10 AM
I was looking at one of those too, and found a site that mentioned some brand of conical pellets that are heavier than common pellets. I don't see what trying a run of the mill pellet would hurt.

Mp7
September 23, 2008, 10:22 AM
..yeah - plus with only a cap behind it - i donŽt see heavier bullets improving anything.

HisSoldier
September 23, 2008, 12:12 PM
Found this, kinda poor quality.
http://www.truveo.com/remington-rider-pistol-my-new-toy-3/id/203836587

bonza
September 25, 2008, 11:33 PM
Hey MP7, did you shoot that Rider yet? How about a report.......please!!

mec
September 26, 2008, 09:50 AM
what trying a run of the mill pellet would hurt.

I saw a post a couple of years ago from a guy who had shot .177 pellets in his. You might even be able to stuff a few tenths grain in the base of a diabolo pellet. Probably wouldn't hurt anything unless it blew out the nose of the pellet. If that happened you could push out the skirt with a rod of some sort.
Back in the 60s, some gunwriter converted a K22 to shoot pellets powered by small pistol primers. It worked very well. I trided shooting 22 pellets out of my colt buntline scout powered by acorn blanks but hose things woud just blow a hole out the end of the pellet.

Mp7
September 26, 2008, 10:44 AM
Yep - it does work.

Like seen in the utube vids - usually the first trigger-pull
only pushes the cap tighter onto the piston.
The second triggerpull then does the job.

i just received the ball-ammo, so it will be tryouts tonite :)
already shot a little flare-ball i took from a new-years rocket!
That was really cool. It flew like 20ft.

a fun lil gun-thingy!

RyanM
September 26, 2008, 06:22 PM
You might even be able to stuff a few tenths grain in the base of a diabolo pellet. Probably wouldn't hurt anything unless it blew out the nose of the pellet. If that happened you could push out the skirt with a rod of some sort.

I suspect any powder at all would blow off the tip. I epoxied a short length of .22 barrel (one of them things for converting a brass cap and ball derringer into a .22) into a .40 S&W case, awhile ago. With a CCI small pistol primer (CCIs are supposed to be the "coolest" primers on the market), 9 out of 10 shots, only the tip exits, and then I have to dig the skirt out.

That guy's converted K22 probably had more of a gap between the primer and pellet.

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