have you ever had to call the range master on someone?


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MedGrl
September 22, 2008, 12:24 PM
A few days ago I was at the range teaching my sister how to shoot, and in the lane next to us was a father and son. The son couldn't have been more than 9 or 10 years old, and the father kept leaving the kid alone in the lane when he would walk off to do ....whatever. The gun the kid was playing with (yes playing with) had crimson trace sights on it and the red dot kept traveling across my target (in the lane next to the kid) as well as all the other targets hung up in the area, the ceiling and walls and the partition next to my sister and I . I'm not too keen on having a potentially (most likely) loaded gun pointed at me, especially by a 10 year old kid. After I had spoken to the father about it and it continued to happen I informed the range master. He dealt with it immediately.

My question to you all is have you ever had to call the range master about someone on the firing line? If so, why?

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tinygnat219
September 22, 2008, 12:30 PM
Yup. I have. Similiar issues. Some weren't obeying the range rules, didn't have their eye protection on, that kind of thing.

Some didn't have their hearing protection on. NOT a good thing when I am firing a Mosin M44 Carbine indoors. :evil:

I have also been threatened before when I ask other people to obey the rules. The good thing is that the range I used to go to had off-duty cops working for range time a polite discussion ensued, following with a ban from the range.

Deanimator
September 22, 2008, 12:32 PM
When I was stationed at Ft. Knox in the '80s, I used to go to the Ft. Knox Public Range to shoot.

One morning, a friend and I were on the range when a couple of apparent civilians from town showed up to shoot. We ceased fire to allow them to put up targets. Firing resumed. We eventually called another ceasefire so that we could change targets. While we were downrange, we suddenly heard the "crack, thump" of rounds being fired and bullets breaking the sound barrier as they passed us. Looking back uprange, we saw the civilians firing their weapons while we were downrange. We frantically called for a ceasefire. Returning to the firing line, we asked them what they thought they were doing. They said they weren't shooting AT us, just PAST us. We told them that if it happened again, we'd return fire. We locked our excess guns in our vehicles and went over to range control to report them. By the time we got back, they were gone.

Stupid people make me tired.

Mp7
September 22, 2008, 12:38 PM
They said they weren't shooting AT us, just PAST us. We told them that if it happened again, we'd return fire.

...now that is funny!!!

Being that precise obviously gave them the impression
that it was time to leave :D

Tom Servo
September 22, 2008, 01:43 PM
Looking back uprange, we saw the civilians firing their weapons while we were downrange
I was sighting in a rifle once, and I saw "something" moving at the edge of the scope. I looked, and the guy next to me had sent his 6-7 year old son downrange to change his targets.

I demanded to know what he thought he was doing, and he said, "well, you seemed like a pretty good shot, so I figured he was safe."

:eek:

langenc
September 22, 2008, 01:49 PM
Not exactly an answer to the question but:

I was shooting one nice fall afternoon at the 100 or 150 range-shot, was reloading and looking downrange.

Lo and behold a person was walking along the top of the range barrier(pile of dirt). It seems there was a school a couple blocks down the street and the range seemed to be a shortcut home for some student!! I ran down there but he was long gone when I got there.

JackBurtonJr
September 22, 2008, 02:07 PM
At the local DNR range and over on the 100 yard line we had some thug life boyz in from the hood shooting their Glocks (100 yards!) gangsta style. They were consistently bouncing the bullets off the ground about 30 feet in front of them.

I notified the rangemaster and they didn't last too long after that.

Lamb of Gun
September 22, 2008, 02:29 PM
Actually, I had an incident at the range and it involved myself as the perpetrator.

I was realoading my 870 with the barrel facing right towards a friend of a friend's son. I was quickly told what I was doing and moved it away. It was my first time out shooting and although even then I was aware of gun safety it wasn't bored in constantly like it is now. It still bothers me that I was "that guy" once but I just have to remember that you need to learn and that the reason nothing happened is because, even then, I still understood the power of a firearm.

edit: I guess this is probably off topic since no range master was called and after an apology and a speech on gun safety we were all on good terms.

bflobill_69
September 22, 2008, 02:40 PM
Yeah sadly SAFETY at gun ranges is still an issue... If you shoot at a range where the Range Master is not around ALOT, prolly oughta find a new range to shoot at.
I know where I shoot, you would have not had to "tell" the RM what you did, he would have already been on it.

Bflobill_69

hso
September 22, 2008, 04:04 PM
Yes, I have.

mactex
September 22, 2008, 04:20 PM
Yep. Two guys who were obviously brand new to guns were learning to shoot a .40 pistol. I offered them advice and reenforced the 4 rules of safety which were posted at each station. They just kept at it and I finally called the RM. The biggest issue I had was that they would pick up the gun with their finger on the trigger and had a couple of NDs while bringing the gun up. Scared them and scared me enough to leave.

Daemon688
September 22, 2008, 04:26 PM
Well, I could care less if the guy next to me doesn't have eyes and ears on but I will report someone if they're doing something dangerous. E.g. sweeping me even after I tell them to watch where they point their guns.

jakemccoy
September 22, 2008, 04:27 PM
I feel the urge to call the range master more often when I'm in a store and the salesman is showing an "unloaded" gun to a customer.

jakemccoy
September 22, 2008, 04:32 PM
I had a guy ask me how to operate a revolver he had just rented. I told him I didn't know because I really was unsure. I told him to go out and ask the staff. He didn't, of course, because his girlfriend was watching. He continued to fidget with the gun. He let off a round into the wall next to his target. Bad aim, I thought. Then, he left off a round that hit the floor in front of me. That's when I left and let the range master know what was going on.

Claude Clay
September 22, 2008, 04:33 PM
was at a cowboy shoot--not local. a couple all dressed up nice had some family with them and at the far end of the covered range were handing various guns around and posing. this is in a No Ammo area but they are sweeping EVERYBODY. we are muttering what to do.....the Sheriff ( really dressed the part and he is L A R G E ) walks up to them-dont know what he said-wraps his meaty hand around the gun and the dudes camera and walks away with both. they left shortly thereafter. i saw dude guy talking to the sheriff but noticed he walked away without his camera and pistol.

rbernie
September 22, 2008, 04:47 PM
Yup, happens a fair bit.

I'll usually just take a quick break and quietly advise the ROs where I shoot to keep an eye on the folks in lane so-and-so needing some help.

Halo
September 22, 2008, 04:53 PM
Fortunately I've not been in a situation where that was necessary, but then again I've pretty much quit going to public ranges because of all the evidence of incompetence/negligence. Bullet holes in the ceiling, target holders, marks on the floor and walls. Scary!

RobNDenver
September 22, 2008, 05:04 PM
Yes. Gang bangers stepping back from the line and sweeping all of us. I spoke with them once and got nothing but heehaw. I notified the rangemaster why I was off the range and asked him to deal with the problem.

springmom
September 22, 2008, 05:07 PM
Sure. It's either overt carelessness about safety or cluelessness that sends me looking for an RO. Either way, I'd just as soon leave the range with no extra ventilation about my person, so yes, I get the RO when necessary.

Springmom

Vicious-Peanut
September 22, 2008, 05:24 PM
Almost, but he was there before I had a chance to. Someone (whom I presume was new to firearms) was firing a new HD set-up shotgun. After a while he picked up the gun and turned around sweeping me right across the face. Not 10 seconds later an officer ran up to him and clarified that people don't take kindly to that.

Splodge Of Doom
September 23, 2008, 10:07 AM
First time I ever handled a lever action rifle, I made a bit of a balls up. I'd been shooting .22 bolt actions regularly for about three weeks, and normal club procedure was to lay your weapon down in the stall facing downrange load the mag while waiting for the RO to check the weapons, and leave the mag on the bench when you put up targets.

So I picked the rifle from the rack, went to the bench, loaded the mag... which just happened to be an integral part of the gun. Needless to say, I was a tad sheepish when the RO came round.

Everyone had a good laugh at my expense, and I'll never do that again...

Thumper_6119
September 23, 2008, 11:43 AM
We don't get much of the gangbangers at our local municipal range as it is run by our local PD. I've never had to call on any of the range masters for the behavior of others.

rfurtkamp
September 23, 2008, 12:09 PM
Yeah, and I've been the RM on open to the public events.

I don't miss doing the latter.

hksw
September 23, 2008, 01:34 PM
The only time I contacted a range officier was to notify him that someone was shooting .223 Rem at the 25 yd range (pistol calibers only). No safety issues (yet).

Steve N
September 23, 2008, 02:19 PM
Many years ago, I was shooting a Sunday morning turkey shoot at the local VFW. They had no back stop, but a very overgrown field and woods were behind the targets. I was on the line and the range master handed me my shell. I turned to the targets and was getting ready to drop the round into the chamber, when a young woman on horseback came riding out of the woods. The range master held up the shoot and yelled at her. She slowly cantered out of the area.

Soybomb
September 23, 2008, 02:42 PM
Only once. At an indoor range a bunch of kids next to me kept loading there guns on the bench behind the firing line leaving no safe place to point them.

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