Loadmaster and 25 Auto


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Griz44
September 24, 2008, 11:32 PM
Can't seem to find any information on which Loadmaster Shellplate to use with 25 auto. Anyone loading this round on a Loadmaster?

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ants
September 25, 2008, 11:49 AM
Maybe they don't make it, Griz. I don't find it in my paper catalog, and it's not online. Not for the 5-hole Loadmaster nor the 3-hole P1000.

For single-station press the shellholder size for 25auto is #15. So I guess they expect you to load them little suckers one-by-one.

Griz44
September 25, 2008, 12:49 PM
That would not be very nice of them. They sell dies. Almost everyone sells bullets for it. I just dropped a e-mail to Lee, I'll let everyone know what I hear back. I stopped and picked up a couple of boxes from Wally World. 25 ACP is MORE expensive than 45 ACP. That makes no sense at all to me.

rcmodel
September 25, 2008, 02:14 PM
Reloading .25 ACP ain't as much fun as you might think it is!

I wouldn't even trust a progressive press powder measure to reliably throw those 1.2 grain powder charges.

Might could be why they don't offer a shell plate for it!

rcmodel

texfed
September 25, 2008, 02:19 PM
I agree, with the small loads in a 25acp and the size of most of em, I''d be afraid of over pressure if my press 'burped' .

Griz44
September 25, 2008, 03:38 PM
I have done some toying around with several different powders and the Lee Microdisk that is made for the Pro Auto Disk. It will throw 1.3g of bullseye very consistently. It throws 1.6g of Titegroup like a fine jeweler polishes diamonds. No problem with the powder dump. Just the shell plate.... And I love a good challenge, especially one that saves 79% of the cost of factory ammo.

Griz44
September 25, 2008, 03:41 PM
Deleted, it double posted for some reason....

ants
September 25, 2008, 06:16 PM
Let us know how it works out, Griz. I hardly ever shoot Grandma's 1908 Hammerless any more because I just don't want to dump 18 bucks for 50 tiny little rounds. It's just as well, I shouldn't be shooting a hundred year old pistol much.

P.S. Maybe you can't overpressure a 25acp with common powders? Load tables show 17,000 to 18,000 psi with a compressed charge. Eventually you've filled the case to the rim and just can't hardly seat a bullet, but still don't exceed 20,000.

P.P.S. Maybe you don't even need a powder measure. Just use the primed brass as a powder scoop, then seat your bullet. Maybe you don't even need to buy bullets. Just use a small fishing sinker.

HisSoldier
September 26, 2008, 12:04 AM
Interesting thread. I'm finding a hidden factor in reloading since getting my progressive, it's fun in it's own right! Fun becomes boredom after enough time until you toss in a challenge. Loading the .25 ACP sounds like a challenge. I don't see a shell plate for it for an RCBS Pro 2000 press though. I do have an RCBS Jr. press though, and might want to dribble the charges into the scale anyway.

Griz44
September 26, 2008, 09:35 PM
OK, got an answer from Lee today.
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The Loadmaster shell plate for 25 ACP is #15. It is a special order
and has no product number. The cost is $29.98 plus $4.00 for shipping.

Lee Precision
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I have a dealers account with Lee, should be able to get a discount on the special order shellplate. Who all wants one? I'll buy several and re-ship to those who want to try the 25 auto reloading.

Griz44
September 27, 2008, 05:21 PM
No other takers on this? I am going to order a shellplate as soon as I get wholesale pricing back from Lee, so if anyone else wants one, speak now.

bonza
September 29, 2008, 12:46 AM
I reloaded for .25ACP years & years ago (though not on a progressive) & it was a lot of fun. Jeez, I was even casting bullets for it!
As far as the cost of .25ACP v. .45ACP goes, it's mainly a matter of economics. The ammo factories make many times the qty. of .45ACP than they do .25ACP so the cost per round is much less when you take into account set-up time. They probably keep a line set up full time for the .45ACP, but probably only do one or two runs a year for the.25ACP.

Griz44
October 3, 2008, 07:45 PM
OK,
The Loadmaster shell plates #15C for 25 auto have arrived.
I got 5 of them, 2 have already sold, I am keeping one for me.
Is anyone else here interested in one of them before I list them on Gunbroker?
Total cost is 30.00 includes shipping.
http://www.burntpowder.com/WebPics/25acp Shellplate 004.JPG
I have ordered bullets (50g HP) that should be here Monday. This is going to be fun.....

Walkalong
October 4, 2008, 01:01 PM
.32 Auto is the smallest I have reloaded for.

.25 auto cases are TINY, but I don't have a .25 auto, or I might have tried it.

ants
October 4, 2008, 02:23 PM
Finally got the shellplate, and now the wife shoots 45.
She'll have to keep the 25 as BUG.

evan price
October 4, 2008, 04:50 PM
The .25 auto shellplate is also available for PRo1000 as a special order, I saw one once on eBay.

I am going to get into .25acp reloading soon as I get my repaired Pieper firing pin fitted and make sure it works. I've got a big sandwich baggie of brass. These take a regular small pistol primer, right?

Who has .25acp lead bullets?

Griz44
October 4, 2008, 08:38 PM
Midwayusa carries several different 25 bullets...

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