McClintock to be on Sean Hannity radio show today!
emc
September 10, 2003, 03:47 PM
Here in Indiana, since I'm listening to it live (2:45pm EST), that will be within the next 60 minutes or so.
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emc
September 10, 2003, 04:59 PM
Well, I heard the interview, and was disappointed. But NOT in McClintock! Hannity seemed to want to spend all too much time discussing Schwarzenegger and how he is doing, rather than McClintock's position. For that, I feel that Hannity did a disservice to his listeners. Unfortunate, to put it nicely. McClintock is supposed to be on the Hannity & Colmes this evening, and hopefully he will have a better opportunity to get the message out regarding his positions on the issues important to California.
FWIW.....
Sergeant Bob
September 10, 2003, 05:55 PM
Hannity seems to be in love with Arnold. He SOOOOO wants him to be a conservative that it's all he see's.
litman252
September 10, 2003, 06:10 PM
I caught the last minutes, "You guys need to get together in 3 weeks or so and 1 needs to drop out and support the other." Why not just tell the guy to drop out now???
I still like Hannity overall.
Tony
DigMe
September 10, 2003, 06:16 PM
Yeah I just heard that very last part but I can't imagine that McClintock is happy with that interview based on that alone.
brad cook
Sleeping Dog
September 11, 2003, 11:43 AM
It makes sense that someone's got to drop out. If McClintock stays in the race, he'll split the conservative vote away from Arnold, so Bustamante will be the Gov. Assuming Davis loses, of course.
Arnold won't drop out. He's got too much of his own money and Kennedy money in it. He's a Dem in Rep clothing. But, he's still better than Cruz.
I hate to say it, but McClintock should depart the race. :(
Regards.
Skunkabilly
September 11, 2003, 11:56 AM
I'm sticking to my guns. If McClintock drops out, I'm voting for the next gun-friendlist candidate.
Schwarzenegger has the right idea on the economy, but money doesn't trump civil rights. If Cruz wins, you can blame me.
tcdrennen
September 11, 2003, 12:20 PM
Hey, Skunky, DITTO.
People don't realize that RINO Pete Wilson spent his entire career destoying libertarian/conservative Republicans in CA, while sucking up to Dems. Riordan would have done the same, and the Wilsonians (and the Bushies in their camp) refused to help Simon until 'way to late in the last election.
The last thing we need in CA is another RINO pushing the Dem agenda (as a 'bipartisan' i.e. 'quisling') thereby eviscerating the true Republican party even more and preventing strong opposition.
Better the True Devil (any Dem) to a devil we can't fully oppose because he's "our" devil.
For a small -l libertarian (aka Classical Liberal / Constitutionalist / Anti-Statist) I cannot support the fascosocialist no matter WHAT party label he claims.
Believe me, Arnie COULD NEVER WIN A CA REPUBLICAN PRIMARY, just as Riordan couldn't. That's why he's running now, it's his only chance to pull a Hollywood Glitz confusion campaign off and get in.
And I am certain that Arnie, or at least his advisers, WILL BE HAPPIER IF CRUZ WINS than if McClintock does.
Yes On Recall, McClintock for Governor!
OF
September 11, 2003, 12:54 PM
Sean Hannity is a moron. A worse spokesman for conservativism you'd be hard pressed to find.
- Gabe
Sleeping Dog
September 11, 2003, 01:17 PM
Ok, Skunkabilly, if Cruz wins, we'll blame you. :)
McClintock certainly would be a good choice, but does he have a snowball's chance in h?
Would a RINO like Arnold really be worse than Cruz? Heck, I think Davis would be a better choice than Cruz.
tc, yeah, Cruz might be "solidifying element" to push Republican/Conservatives to do something to regain power, but it could backfire. Can things get worse? Probably.
There might be worse people to vote for, but Hillary's not running.
Regards.
OF
September 11, 2003, 01:31 PM
McClintock is the only candiate who has shown any growth in his numbers for the last 3 weeks. I think he has a shot if he gets his face and name out there. Whoever is handling his PR needs to be fired fast.
- Gabe
longeyes
September 11, 2003, 02:59 PM
I'm a history buff and only if Bustamante wins can we see a replay
of the "mission" system that thrived in California two hundred
years ago. Give history a chance.
Arnold thinks that anyone who supports Prop. 54 is a "rightwing crazy."
Since when did being color-blind imply you were either rightwing or
crazy? We all know Arnold's not the real deal and is remote-controlled
by the Kennedys, don't we? Robert Kennedy Jr. is his environmental
advisor.
Hannity is smart and entertaining but all too often he is nothing but
a shill for the Republican Party.
Vote McClintock. Sleep with a clear conscience.
longeyes
September 11, 2003, 03:06 PM
There's a third path. McClintock cuts a deal with Schwarz'r to drop
out. But ONLY if he gets assurances from the Terminator about certain
subjects dear to our hearts. That ought to be possible, assuming
Schwarz'r really wants to win and McClintock understands the meaning
of the "art of the possible."
somatophylax
September 11, 2003, 04:11 PM
McClintock will drop out of the race, watch it happen. He's a man of principles but he's also a member of the Republican Party. And that party will soon appeal to his sense of party-discipline and make him quit the race. Regardless of what you might think of him, McClintock can not win California, but Arnold can.
Jim March
September 11, 2003, 04:46 PM
If McClintock drops, it'll be at the last minute (well, inside of a couple of days of the end). This would have some benefit for Arnie (last-minute momentum) and leaves open the possibility that Arnie will either flub it BAD, or get "terminated" by a Davis broadside.
Bigjake
September 11, 2003, 04:59 PM
i'd honestly like to see cruz win, what could be better than dumping that mess called cali in the dems lap for another 4 years?? by that time hopefully the good folks of cali will have had enough of liberal BS and vote repub.
El Rojo
September 11, 2003, 08:47 PM
Here is my take after some careful thought. With regards to the vote your conscience theory. If you vote your conscience and vote for the obvious choice of us all, McClintock, you should feel like you did the right thing right? How do you justify that if you know that your vote for the underdog who has little chance of winning takes a vote from a lessor evil and puts the worse possible candidate in? In effect, at this time a vote for McClintock is a vote for Bustamante as much as a vote for Perot in 92 was a vote for Bill Clinton. So even though you can claim that you voted your conscience and for principle, did you? You knew that your vote would split the party and put the democrat in. But you claim you were sending Sacremento a message. Yeah, the final tally comes out to 33% Bustermonte, 25% Arnie, and 20% McClintock. You showed them that lots of people like McClintock. Reality is that Bustamante, a possible Davis clone if not worse, is still in office, he will sign anti-gun legislation if not sponsor it and we are still in sad shape. Arnie gets in, he might energize the party at the next election, we might get some more republicans in office.
I know this, Davis is out. There is no way he can't be out. How do I know? Think of the people that are going to vote no on the recall. Probably mainly Bustamante supporters. That means anyone who votes for anyone other than Bustamante is going to vote yes on the recall and we know there are probably going to be plenty of Bustamante voters that vote yes on the recall anyway. Davis is gone. So the choice is three, Bustamante, Arnie, or McClintock. I hate polls as much as the rest of you, I think they are created to make the masses do what they want. However, look at our pathetic state. They are so liberal in mindset that we just recently put Davis back in. Do you think with two republicans running we are going to be able to get more votes than the one democrat? It isn't going to happen.
I have not made up my mind yet. Yes, I want McClintock in. That would be paradise for us. However, I also have to look at reality. Those two republicans running are just going to split the vote. To make up my mind now and say I am going to vote for McClintock just means Arnie and McClintock are going to be neck in neck, but decidingly behind Bustermante. If voting "by principle or conscience" means giving the election to Bustamante, I don't want to do it. My conscience should be just as damaged under that rationalization if I know my vote is going to split the party and put in the worst case scenario. I can live voting for Arnie if he just misses beating Bustermante. If I vote for McClintock and he isn't even close and we see even more legislation from the status quo, how do I live with that? As wishy washy as Arnie is now, he could just as easily go our way later. Hell even Davis laid off on signing gun laws in order to avoid possible violence or whatever he was trying to do.
Bustamante is worst case scenario. I think everyone should closely evaluate who they want in office after this is all said and done. Dabis is gone. Who do you realistically want to replace him. Think about how your vote for McClintock might just be all or nothing. I am tired of getting nothing in this state.
I say wait and see what happens. McClintock is the best choice, but if he doesn't have a chance, why throw away your vote and keep the dems in?
And yes I also believe there is some merit to the whole argument that the next guy in is going to be just as screwed as Davis and be a one termer, but to bring that up at the beginning of my post would make it all not worth arguing about! I just ask that everyone re-evaluate the theory that voting your conscience or principle does not mean you are throwing your vote away on something that you know isn't going to win. I can restructure the whole thing in my mind that a vote for McClintock is a vote for Bustamante, which if it splits the vote, that is what I am doing. And when it comes down to taxes, it isn't all some game. I know people who voted their "conscience" or for "principle" in the last election by voting for Reinhold Golke and now they are pissed about the car tax. Yeah, those are the results.
El Rojo
September 11, 2003, 08:49 PM
I too thought that McClintock might drop the last second, but then comes into play the absentee factor. No point in dropping the last second and getting behind Arnie if thousands of votes for you come in on the absentee. It applies the same way to Arnie dropping and supporting McClintock.
This whole thing is going to get really fun in about a month. I say heck with it, lets just take up arms and revolt. :D
Preacherman
September 11, 2003, 09:20 PM
I'm afraid I don't have much hope for the California economy and polity even if Bustamante is defeated... don't forget that both houses of State legislature, the departments of government, and most of the important figures in State administration, are all Democrat-dominated. A Republican governor is most unlikely to have any hope of getting any sensible legislation passed, be it related to economic development, state finances, or gun control.
Personally, I kinda think that California deserves Bustamante - after all, when you hit the gutter, there's only one way out, and that's up! After Bustamante and the "California-for-the-Mexicans" movement finally screw things up big-time, perhaps the rest of the state will wake up and move things back to the center once again.
OF
September 12, 2003, 09:20 AM
Isn't Bustamexican part of some organization that wants a chunk of the American southwest turned into an idependant Latino nation?
Yikes.
- Gabe
USAFA
September 19, 2003, 06:08 AM
A few minor points against El Rojo's don't vote your concience post:
1) Polls are notoriously inacurate
2) That being said, McClintock is the only one who's polls are growing
3) Look at how many people are saying that McClintock is their man, but they want to vote for someone who has a chance to win. Now, just speculating, but what would happen if all of those people who want him in office but vote for Arnold instead vote the way they really want to?
It's like religion, you have to go with what you feel is right. And personally I have to stand with my principles and vote for the man who I think will stand for his.
See ya on election day, whenever that is:confused:
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