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In a world in a hurry going nowhere, I am grateful to have been born when I was, and raised as I was.

We didn't have a lot compared to today when it comes to shotguns, and shotgun related equipment.

Truth of the matter is, we don't need a lot of what has been developed and manufactured since I was a wee brat and is now sold to shotgun users, to be effective shotgunners.

Boyd stated it : Mindset, Skillsets "then" Toolsets

A shotgun and its loading cannot do a darn thing, without a user.
Since no tool is ever better than a user of said tool, this idea of trying to buy magic talismans, skill, targets, scores and all is sorta stupid, in my opinion.

A shotgun is a very versatile tool. It works from "right here" to "out yonder a bit".
Flying, running, and stationary targets have been felled for a long time with a shotgun.

The same shotgun that sits behind a back door, has taken quail that explodes at one feet, doves that act like Grey Missiles, held an escaped prisoner at bay that escaped from a chain gang until the Corrections Dept/ Sheriff Dept could arrive.
Put venison, and turkey on the table, stopped a bear in a blackberry patch coming after kids picking blackberries to...

Sometimes the shotgun is shot a lot, and toted little, like shooting clay targets.
Other times the shotgun is toted lots and shot less, such as wading in to fell a limit of ducks, or walking a corn field to fell Pheasants.

Less is More.

Same basic, bone stock configurations have done all this, and for a very long time.
They are still doing so.

They will continue to in the future.


Steve

[Todd A]

That is 'cause you still live in the dark ages sm. ;)

I bought alot of neat things to bolt onto my Mossberg. And I am a fair shot with it. :)

Of course that might have to do with the thousands of shells I put though it over the years.:confused:

[sm]

Of course that might have to do with the thousands of shells I put though it over the years

Todd, my friend, what am I going to do with you? *smile*
One more time - please call me Steve

You found a gun that fits you, fitted it with the accessories that fit you and your environment- and that is your "Less".

Then you fired thousands of shells and have become one with the gun.
You continue quality practice with this gun.
That is your "More".

Maybe all that brown Delrin , and 1095 carbon steel from Old Timer knives is getting to your brain.

*kidding*

Steve

[Snarlingiron]

Well, it all depends. When I go to a foo-foo restaurant, and they charge me double for 3 oz. of steak and 3 baby carrots that somebody forgot to trim the green part off of, then more is more.

But, when it comes to tricking out a shotgun, I'm there with you, less is more.

K.I.S.S. More stuff is more to learn and master.

[BruceRDucer]

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Hey sm, that's a very interesting bit of writing.

"...this idea of trying to buy magic talismans, skill, targets, scores and all is sorta stupid, in my opinion.--sm


I liked that, but then, I'm probably more familiar with "stupid" than most people.

Somewhere in the recesses of my mind a similar vague sentiment has grown in the past few months about the shotgun, owing to its utter simplicity, and its endless utility.

But watch; even though Less-Is-More, I write too much.

I was thinking of late about shotguns in movies, and it seemed that in most of the movies I recall, there was a Winchester Model 12 (model 1912) in it, rather than other models. Isn't that the essence of simplicity.

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[Todd A]

Todd, my friend, what am I going to do with you? *smile*

Nothing you can do Steve.

I am a unique mall ninja with a tricked out Shottie and pockets full of slipjoints.:neener::):D

If'n you buy this stuff for your shottie, you can become one of us.:evil:

http://www.atigunstocks.com/products.aspx?category=5&page=1&id=23

[kcshooter]

I like my shotguns. My favorite one is a 500, but I shoot it a lot and have touched a hot barrel a few times so I put on a heat shield.

It has a standard factory synthetic stock, and it makes my cheek sore after a bunch of SD rounds at times, so I put on a small padded cheek pad.

I also like to have a light on my HD weapon, and then I added a sidesaddle to it too. So now I have a bunch of stuff stuck on this one.
But it's a normal stock and with a round count in the thousands, I'm ok with it.

Normally I hate the bolt-on stuff, but this is just what has worked for me.

[Dave McCracken]

Good thread.

A rule of thumb here is if one has spent more on addons and mods than ammo and targets, one's priorities suffer from a bad case of The Skews....

[foghornl]

I only have a couple of "doo-dads" on my HomeLand Security Shotgun..

The 18-1/2" barrel in place of the 28" mod choke barrel that came on it.

A 5-round "Butt Cuff" filled with slugs

Have experimented with a couple of different brand, but still normal-style stocks. IIRC, the shorter LOP "Hogue Overmold" is on it right now.

Did try the PGO (Pistol Grip Only) stock...ONCE.

[plumberroy]

I am a unique mall ninja with a tricked out Shottie and pockets full of slipjoints.

If'n you buy this stuff for your shottie, you can become one of us.

http://www.atigunstocks.com/products...5&page=1&id=23
reliable rumurs say that those ati stocks tend to "self adjust" during recoil on stuff that kicks

[kcshooter]

reliable rumurs say that those ati stocks tend to "self adjust" during recoil on stuff that kicksHuh. If you're talking about the AR-style stocks, the one on my maverick with an 18.5" barrel never has, and it's been on there for close to 1000 rounds now, all high-brass 00 or #4 buck, and slugs. And I got the stock from another shooter who didn't want it anymore, it was used. It's the only non-standard stock I have, and I really do kinda like the adjustable LOP. I wouldn't use it on any of my mossbergs because of the safety location, but it works great on the maverick.

[PJR]

My approach to accessories is to add them only in response to a need determined through practice.

While shooting my 870P it became apparent the smooth wood stock didn't provide sufficient control and the short forend sometimes pinched my little finger. It was replaced with a Hogue stock. Better grip on the gun and no more sore fingers.

During practice it became apparent I couldn't hit the factory safety reliably. Out it went for an oversized Wilson and then a Vang. Problem solved.

My domestic situation doesn't favor a loaded gun so a side saddle was required and part of my practice routine is loading the gun without looking at it.

Because predators don't maintain regular hours I have a light mount that fits under the magazine cap. I chose this option because the shotgun is used for other purposes and it can be easily removed. I also found during a low light practice session that the rifle sights were sometimes hard to pick up and were replaced by firesights.

Sometimes the gun has to go into the wood lot with me so I added a sling.

That's it. All accessories were added when practice dictated a shortcoming and they met the requirement. The improvements were incremental and nothing I couldn't live without but there were definitely improvements.

Many other gadgets have been tried and found wanting. Others were just too dumb to even try in the first place. YMMV.

[Bud Tugly]

Some of my favorite memories involve a single shot shotgun, 7-8 shells in one jacket pocket, a PB&J in the other, and a quart canteen of Kool-aid strapped to my belt. I was equipped for an all-day ramble through the woods and often came home with 4-5 grouse.

Simple can be very, very good.

[Dave McCracken]

Paul, that's the proper way.

A shotgun is a device to direct a charge of shot or a slug to a place of one's own choosing at the right time in comfort to the shooter. Anything that aids that is a good idea.

You've made your changes based on real world experience. Kudoes....

Amen, Bud.

[plumberroy]

Huh. If you're talking about the AR-style stocks, the one on my maverick with an 18.5" barrel never has, and it's been on there for close to 1000 rounds now, all high-brass 00 or #4 buck, and slugs. And I got the stock from another shooter who didn't want it anymore, it was used. It's the only non-standard stock I have, and I really do kinda like the adjustable LOP. I wouldn't use it on and of my mossbergs because of the safety location, but it works great on the maverick.

Some of the guys over on graybeards have had the ATI stocks for H&R's colapse on hard kicking calibers