WWB Self Defense Ammo Questions


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HoosierQ
September 29, 2008, 03:17 PM
Gander Mountain has some Winchester white box, 115gr 9mm self-defense ammo...JHP. The price is pretty good relative to Hydra-Shoks, Gold Dots etc.

Does anyone have experience or knowledge of this? I have never seen it before, thinking all WWB to be low-end but decent range and stockpile FMJs.

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NG VI
September 29, 2008, 03:50 PM
Gold Dots are better, but be sure to only buy them in the 50 round boxes, they cost about the same as the 20 round boxes and are exactly the same. You might have to buy online to get them though, in general the LE boxes of ammo are priced far better than the Personal Protection or Personal Defense boxes. I would carry something different than WWB, like Gold Dots or Golden Saber, Ranger-T or HST, but if you really don't want to order some ammo online for whatever reason the WWB would be ok.

gwnorth
September 29, 2008, 03:58 PM
I don't know about the whitebox JHP's, although I've seen them too and wondered. My preference for SD rounds with winchester are the 147gr silvertips or SXT rounds. But, those do cost more.

Soldiersurfs
September 29, 2008, 03:59 PM
Are you in an area where you cant order ammo online? The only time I see better prices in the local stores is Walmarts WWB FMJ and Blazer Brass FMJ

knicks118
September 29, 2008, 03:59 PM
I use WWB for range time...

Spend a little more and get Hydra's or something along those lines for SD.

johnle
September 30, 2008, 06:32 PM
Hydra-shoks suck.

The 147gr WWB JHP are better then the Hydra-shoks.
http://www.btfh.net/shoot/bullet-test-1.html

I dislike the 115gr WWB JHP

But the WWB JHP are essentially the same as regular winchester rangers (non SXT) and the same as silvertips.

CountGlockula
September 30, 2008, 07:11 PM
Winchester white box, 115gr 9mm self-defense ammo...JHP.

Yup, I use those and they're sleeping in my Glock mags to wake up the bad guys. I need to get some more.

chupacabrah
September 30, 2008, 08:13 PM
i have some of the WWB 147 gr JHPs in one of my SD mags. Gold Dots in the other. and some Hornady XTPs in another. :)

VHinch
September 30, 2008, 08:19 PM
While they aren't my choice for carry, I would much rather see someone carry the WWB JHP's and practice with them than carry premium load and be afraid to shoot them due to the cost.

Treo
September 30, 2008, 08:29 PM
I carry WWB. And after firing them into a buffalo heart ( yes you read that right) at 15 feet or so, I'm confident in their ability to get the job done.

If you're interested the exit wound from a .40 S&W 165 G JHP was about the size of a hand ball at 15 feet.

gwnorth
September 30, 2008, 08:33 PM
Are you in an area where you cant order ammo online? The only time I see better prices in the local stores is Walmarts WWB FMJ and Blazer Brass FMJ

For me, the cost of shipping wipes out any potential online saving. If I am mindful to buy my ammo when out doing other errands anyway, I can actually usually beat any online prices. Recent eg's. 50rnds of Amer. Eagle .38spl FMJ for $9.89 or WWB 100rnd bargain pack of 115gr FMJ 9mm for $18.95 - neither with any added shipping costs since I was in or near the stores anyway.

goon
September 30, 2008, 11:54 PM
There used to be some info on them on the old Hi-Power forum.
IIRC, they were tested for expansion and found to be pretty similar to Winchester Silvertips.
I carried them before and still would.

RobG5538
October 1, 2008, 04:23 PM
I use them but in .45. I have seen two different web articles (one here I believe) that showed them to be great expanders and totally reliable. I have had 100% reliability in my Kimber and being that they are cheaper than others I tend to shoot them more often. Again, this is .45, YMMV in 9mm.

foghornl
October 1, 2008, 04:27 PM
I have tested some in all of my .45ACP pistols. They function fine. While not premium ammo, they certainly are at least mid-grade...better for SD/HD use than the WWB (or other brand) Ball ammo.

sigbear
October 1, 2008, 08:48 PM
I tested WWB 9mm 147 gr. as well as Federal 9mm 124 gr. Hydro-shock and HST.

The HST was much better than Hydro-shock in expansion and penetration through a plastic recycle bin filled with soaking wet newspaper, however, the WWB failed to expand at all O.

WWB was the only bullet to clog with plastic from the bin.

you get what you pay for, but WWB is great for target shooting.

Sigbear

Marcus L.
October 1, 2008, 08:53 PM
You get what you pay for. Not only are premium hollow points like Gold Dots, Rangers, and HSTs more refined bullet designs, but you also pay for overall better quality controls. More accurate powder levels, more reliable primers, better quality casings. When life or death is on the line, I don't want my ammunition to let me down.

jon_in_wv
October 1, 2008, 09:25 PM
The WWB ammo also uses low flash powder. It seems clean compared to other budget ammos and the HPs sem to work well enough. I think it beats the snot out of carry FMJ. Just practice a lot and carry with confidence.

johnle
October 2, 2008, 01:46 AM
the WWB JHP is basically a silvertip

it's a good round, look at the online testing, my own test fired into water jugs they always expand.

choose the 147 if u do pick WWB JHP, the 115gr has more failures

Ben86
October 2, 2008, 03:12 AM
I carry WWB 115gr jhps. They have passed all my personal accuracy, functionality and expansion/penetration tests in my Glocks. And with an energy rating of 383 I think they are great mid-quality rounds.

On the other hand what you are sacrificing is quality control. And compared to bonded jhps, bullet design.

Another good mid-quality "stock up on" round is the Rem UMC jhps. They also perform nicely.

The Lone Haranguer
October 2, 2008, 03:20 AM
You will not get the "latest and greatest" bullet designs or the flash-retardant powders of the true premium ammo, but it will be perfectly adequate and functional.

jon_in_wv
October 4, 2008, 01:00 PM
johnle, what do you mean the 115gr has more "failures"? Failure to what? and what is that info base upon?

.357 magnum
October 5, 2008, 01:50 AM
I go to Wally World for my practice Ammo-Very Good Prices in Blazer Brass. Self Defense Ammo is Higher quality and less Expensive online. For 9mm I switched to the 147gr loads. The High Tech Modern Ammo really has some Great 147gr loads. The Best I have shot is the Federal Tactical HST 147gr +P and 147gr non-plus P. Another Excellent Round is the Winchester 147gr Bonded. If you prefer a lighter load The Winchester Ranger Bonded 124gr +P and Federal Tactical 135gr +P are Very Good. I have found the Bonded Ammo for the three Calibers I shoot.45 .40 and 9mm really Perform well. I can understand why LE has started using the Heavier Bonded Loads. They Penetrate Excellent-and the Expansion is Awesome!

The Best to You!

Frank

jaholder1971
October 5, 2008, 02:28 AM
I use WWB 180 grain JHP in my .40 S&W Sigma. Brassfetcher's tested them and they appear to work just fine.

All the WWB loads are old school JHP's. They work, just not as well as the new kids on the block.

If they shoot straight, use 'em.

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