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nwilliams
September 30, 2008, 03:35 PM
I searched and couldn't find a pic thread dedicated to foreign gun ownership, I'd kinda like to see one. I know that not all THR members are US citizens and I'm curious to see some gun collections of some of our foreign members.

>>Please keep in mind that this thread is a chance for foreign members to show off their gun collections, plain and simple<<

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exar
September 30, 2008, 04:44 PM
Paging Max... Mr. Max Popenker to the front please.:D

nwilliams
September 30, 2008, 06:13 PM
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Kind of Blued
September 30, 2008, 06:29 PM
Maybe we should make them feel more welcome by calling them "non-US" instead of "foreign". :)

Also, keep in mind many of them are sleeping.

BruceRDucer
September 30, 2008, 06:40 PM
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Paging Max... Mr. Max Popenker to the front please.

philuk44
September 30, 2008, 07:11 PM
Well, looks like I'm the first......................

Don't have a picture of all my guns but here's one of me with my .303.

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r61/philuk44/S1031717.jpg

And a pic of my Winchester model 62

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r61/philuk44/S1031819.jpg

The Winchester's quite unusual in having an octagonal barrel - apparently only a small number were made for export. Great little shooter. :)

Phil

Shung
September 30, 2008, 07:20 PM
Ok.. i'll fire 1st ! :D some of my stuff

My AR stuff (waiting for a 4th upper, 10.5" Mk18 clone)

M4 Colt (full M16A1 lower) , SDI XR-15M4 clone (semi) , 22lr conversion upper

http://i34.servimg.com/u/f34/11/94/71/06/th/m4rev110.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=275&u=11947106)

Samuel heritage (Uberti replicas + Springield Armory 1911)

http://i44.servimg.com/u/f44/11/94/71/06/th/wgen10.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=4&u=11947106)

Levers (Ubertis)

http://i44.servimg.com/u/f44/11/94/71/06/th/winchs10.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=6&u=11947106)

my garand stuff

http://i44.servimg.com/u/f44/11/94/71/06/th/ww2st110.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=10&u=11947106)

Swiss touch (k31's)

http://i14.servimg.com/u/f14/11/94/71/06/th/31s11.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=267&u=11947106)

Diversity

http://i54.servimg.com/u/f54/11/94/71/06/th/fa110.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=227&u=11947106)

that's it for now... :D you gotta keep a secret garden.. :D


Edit: Damn, I was smocked by a brittish.. what a shame ! ;)

philuk44
September 30, 2008, 07:26 PM
Shung

I may have been quicker than you at posting but you've got a much nicer collection than me - I'm jealous! :D

Phil

nwilliams
September 30, 2008, 07:26 PM
Great guys! Keep em coming and don't forget to let us know where you're from!;)

Shung
September 30, 2008, 07:31 PM
Shung

I may have been quicker than you at posting but you've got a much nicer collection than me - I'm jealous!

Phil

Don't be. It's only about luck. Luck to live in the good place for gunlaws, luck to have the money at the right time etc..

I really like your enfield. I always wanted one. One day i'll step and take one !

Yankee
September 30, 2008, 07:59 PM
I'm posting from work here in Australia so I don't have access to my photo collection but here's a picture of my latest acquisition. It's an Israeli Mauser in 7.62. It is a bit of a mystery as to what it started life as with some people sugesting that it was a pre-war VZ-24 while others think it may be a late or post war 98K. All new opinions are welcome!. I have a few others at home which I'll try and post soon.

http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo305/highroad_pics/DSC01418.jpg
http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo305/highroad_pics/DSC01420.jpg

Calibre44
October 1, 2008, 02:56 AM
These are all good for home defence since any would be burglar who invaded your home would laugh to death if you pointed them at him:D

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg230/woodsy_2008/Guns/ebay004.jpg

Calibre44
October 1, 2008, 03:04 AM
But seriously:

Bunch of open-top Ubertits’
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg230/woodsy_2008/Guns/Colts.jpg

Winchester 94 in .44 Mag, Henry .22 and of course the ever faithful 10.22
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg230/woodsy_2008/Guns/misc4199-1.jpg

Bettinsoli 12g
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg230/woodsy_2008/Guns/Bettinsoli.jpg

mvl
October 1, 2008, 03:18 AM
Pardon my ignorance, but how do i attach a picture ?

Calibre44
October 1, 2008, 03:44 AM
mvl wrote: Pardon my ignorance, but how do i attach a picture ?

Here's how - click me (http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=369296)

nambu1
October 1, 2008, 04:05 AM
There are some very nice weapons shown. The gun laws in some countries are not owner friendly as we have in the United States. We live in a great country.

ZEN.45
October 1, 2008, 04:47 AM
http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/624/s6000463pp2.jpg
http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/2035/img13140ca.jpg
http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/5836/img13447ir.jpg
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/9043/s6000347pf6.jpg
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/8278/s6000617vt9.jpg

And I just ordered a SIG P220, Beretta Cheetah and a L1A1 (British FAL).

Shung
October 1, 2008, 05:25 AM
Zen45 !!! the wood of your Garand just look great !!!

Pilot
October 1, 2008, 08:00 AM
Great collection Zen!

Are people in Europe and other countries outside the U.S. considered "weird" by their fellow countrymen if they are into guns?

goerz
October 1, 2008, 08:37 AM
Not really a collection, just the only firearm I own for the moment (I just recently became a gun enthusiast): my CZ-75 SP-01 Shadow 9x21.

Greetings from Italy,

Goerz

http://thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=85526&d=1222864590

Calibre44
October 1, 2008, 08:50 AM
Pilot wrote: Are people in Europe and other countries outside the U.S. considered "weird" by their fellow countrymen if they are into guns?

That’s a very good question especially over here in the UK. Some UK shooters may have had a different experience to me, but to be honest, and in my experience, I don’t often meet anyone who is totally anti-gun. My neighbours and colleagues know I shoot. Some show an interest and talk to me about shooting, most aren’t bothered because they aren’t interested in shooting anyway rather than actually being anti-gun, and very occasionally I meet someone who doesn’t agree with gun ownership at all.

I’ve given up speaking to anyone who is totally anti-gun because they aren’t open to any common sense debate and always throw the Hungerford and Dunblane massacres at you (google them if you haven’t heard of them). The Hungerford shootings got our full-bore semi autos banned and the Dunblane shootings got our handguns banned.

Interestingly though, Michael Ryan, who carried out the shootings at Hungerford, also used a 9mm pistol but these were not banned at that point. The Dunblane shootings however, involved minors which resulted in a groundswell of emotional anger being levelled at gun owners - the Government jumped at the opportunity to ban handguns.

But as we all know: gun crime has increased since the ban but at least it provides you folks with enough evidence to prove that gun control doesn’t work!

Shung
October 1, 2008, 08:53 AM
Are people in Europe and other countries outside the U.S. considered "weird" by their fellow countrymen if they are into guns?

sure here. for the average people having to keep their issued SIG550 is already too much.. They don't undertsand why someone should privately own guns.. in their mind only police and military should be armed... When you expose them arguments and statistic that says the opposit, they sometimes change their mind, but their brain is usually formated by green/socialist/liberalfoolish ideas of desarming people...

philuk44
October 1, 2008, 08:56 AM
Some great guns here! :D

Here's another of mine - Marlin 1894 in .357" with Tasco red dot sight.

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r61/philuk44/marlin-1.jpg

This was taken at Bisley ranges in England - I'll be shooting there again in 2 weeks :)

Phil

Seancass
October 1, 2008, 09:21 AM
Zen .45, i had that garand and company photo saved on my computer and didn't know it was from outside the US. That actually kind of makes it mean more to me. I know some of you have to jump through a lot of very small hoops to get your guns and it really makes a young american like me appreciate the rights i have.
anywho, KEEP POSTING THE PICS!!! they never get old.

KI.W.
October 1, 2008, 09:26 AM
I am not collector, but only shooter and reloader.
I have only rifles:
Anschutz .22LR
Brno .22Hornet
Tikka 66 12-70 /.222Rem
T/C Cont carbin .223Rem
Voere Mauser 22-250Rem
Arisaka .308Win T*
Rem 700 .30-06Spr T*
Arisaka 9,3x57Mauser T*
Handguns:
Anschutz Exemplar .22LR
T/C Cont/G2 .22Horn, 9mm Luger and .357Rem Max
Renato Gamba Trident 900 .38Spl
Dan wesson .357Rem Max

* tight chamber :uhoh:

Heggis
October 1, 2008, 10:18 AM
My IPSC Open gun... SVI .38 Super Comp with 6MOA C-more on Dawson mount.

http://heggis.kuvat.fi/kuvat/Guns/Strayer%20Voight%20Infinity/IMG_3343-01.jpg/_smaller.jpg


My latest little one, Les Baer Premier II .45 for SS shooting :)

http://heggis.kuvat.fi/kuvat/Guns/Les%20Baer%20Premier%20II/IMG_3650-01.jpg/_smaller.jpg


My two blinkers...
Browning Buckmark Plus with 4MOA OKO and silencer

http://www.perfect-s.net/galleria/albums/userpics/10001/IMG_5866-01_800.jpg

Browning Buckmark Contour with 2MOA Aimpoint CompC3

http://heggis.kuvat.fi/kuvat/Guns/Browning%20Buck%20Mark/Chim/IMG_1173-01_1.jpg/_smaller.jpg


Silhouette revolver Dan Wesson SuperMag .357 Maximum

http://www.perfect-s.net/galleria/albums/userpics/10001/IMG_4627-01_800.jpg


Moving on to rifle section...
Tikka M55 with a Hart barrel chambered to .260 Remington with Zeiss 6-24x56 #63

http://heggis.kuvat.fi/kuvat/Guns/Tikka%20M55%20.260%20Rem/IMG_3395-01.jpg/_smaller.jpg


My moosehunting gun. CZ 550 Magnum .458 WinMag with Meostar R1 1-4x22 KDot

http://heggis.kuvat.fi/kuvat/Guns/CZ%20550%20Magnum%20.458%20WinMag/IMG_8181-01_80.jpg/_smaller.jpg


Little rimfire CZ 452 Style with Swift 6-18x44 Mildot and silencer

http://www.perfect-s.net/galleria/albums/userpics/10001/IMG_2946-01_1000.jpg


And finally my shotty... Winchester 1100 Black Shadow

http://www.perfect-s.net/galleria/albums/userpics/10001/IMG_4154-01_1000.jpg


So there you have it... Foreigner with pretty much american guns :D

max popenker
October 1, 2008, 10:20 AM
Dammit, looks like even our British friends have more guns that I do ;)

honestly, right now I'm down to just ONE gun, 12 gauge pump for HD and general plinking; however right now I'm in the process of the getting permit for my next gun.

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/8688/stg312mr9.jpg

Oh yes, i also have this one right now on my belt, in OWB holster...
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/1192/osa2ow3.th.jpg (http://img214.imageshack.us/my.php?image=osa2ow3.jpg) http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/4403/osa1av9.th.jpg (http://img377.imageshack.us/my.php?image=osa1av9.jpg) http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/4549/osa3yb8.th.jpg (http://img218.imageshack.us/my.php?image=osa3yb8.jpg)

ridata
October 1, 2008, 10:46 AM
max popenker ... doesn't that handgun *hurt*? It sure looks like it would.

max popenker
October 1, 2008, 10:57 AM
max popenker ... doesn't that handgun *hurt*?
yes, it does; at least, to some extent :evil:
This is less-lethal thing called "Osa" (Wasp)
It shoots 15mm (.60") rubber slugs with ME of some 80 Joules (~50 ft-lbs), and can break a bone at short ranges and through light clothing
The rounds with silver plug at the front are flash-bang, providing some extra-bright flash (as big as 1.5 meter / 5 feet from the muzzle) and bang comparable to .300 Win Mag, which especially effective at the night and against packs of stray dogs.

25 Pdr
October 1, 2008, 11:34 AM
Here in the UK we can't have self loading centre fire rifles, (confiscated 1988) or handguns, (confiscated 1997). But to illustrate what we can have here is some of my legal, (registered) collection.

You Good Guys in the US must avoid gun registration if you want to Keep and Bear Arms. Simple.

BTW Anybody identify the rifle bottom left?

http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee142/smle_01/DSCF1913Large.jpg

Calibre44
October 1, 2008, 12:11 PM
Heay Phil

That looks like the Melville Range at Bisley – are you shooting the ‘advancing man targets?’

I was at Bisley on Saturday on the Short Siberia Range – not bad weather for late September!
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg230/woodsy_2008/Guns/SSiberia.jpg

I see you like Lee Enfileds’ – here’s a nice example that was a joy to shoot.
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg230/woodsy_2008/Guns/misc3053.jpg

cheers

Calibre44
October 1, 2008, 12:13 PM
Heay 25 Pdr – nice collection!. Not sure about the bottom left rifle but is the bottom right a BSA Airsporter?

barman
October 1, 2008, 12:23 PM
Here are mine:
Mle 1873
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/river_of_deceit/P1000500.jpg

French pistol 1822t Bis
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/river_of_deceit/P1000409.jpg

Another 1873 with an Uberti 1861 Nevy and a Fagnus revolver:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/river_of_deceit/revolver/P1000464.jpg

Mle 1892
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/river_of_deceit/revolver/P1000530.jpg

Chassepot rifle, Swedish Rolling Block and a random 16 gauge shotgun.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/river_of_deceit/P1000422.jpg

25 Pdr
October 1, 2008, 12:32 PM
CALIBRE44 Yes the bottom right is an Airsporter. Hint- the bottom left is a British made recoilless air rifle.

Picard
October 1, 2008, 01:37 PM
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halfbreed808
October 1, 2008, 04:22 PM
"I am not collector, but only shooter and reloader.
I have only rifles:
Anschutz .22LR
Brno .22Hornet
Tikka 66 12-70 /.222Rem
T/C Cont carbin .223Rem
Voere Mauser 22-250Rem
Arisaka .308Win T*
Rem 700 .30-06Spr T*
Arisaka 9,3x57Mauser T*
Handguns:
Anschutz Exemplar .22LR
T/C Cont/G2 .22Horn, 9mm Luger and .357Rem Max
Renato Gamba Trident 900 .38Spl
Dan wesson .357Rem Max" KI.W.




ooookaaaayyyy!!!:D

Seancass
October 1, 2008, 04:28 PM
Hawaii is foreign?

edit: ooooooooooooh, i see now. stupid islands.;)jk.

Shung
October 1, 2008, 04:44 PM
it was a quote from the Finish member ;)

swiftak
October 1, 2008, 04:52 PM
Pardon my ignorance, but I was under the impression that all guns were banned in England.

Calibre44
October 1, 2008, 05:14 PM
Swiftak wrote: Pardon my ignorance, but I was under the impression that all guns were banned in England.

It’s a common misconception.

Simplistically speaking all handguns are banned except Long Barrelled Revolvers (LBR in .357 and .44 mag and .22) and muzzle-loading pistols.

Semi-auto centrefire guns are banned except .22 rimfire. You can still own traditional semi-autos like AK47, AR15 etc but they must have the semi auto-function disabled and reconfigured to a straight-pull arrangement whereby you have to manually pull back the bolt to eject and reload a shell from the mag.

Everything else is okay from .17 to .50 cal so long as you can show good reason and have secure storage (gunsafe). Typically good reason would be target shooting, hunting and pest control. There are no restrictions on mag size. All guns except air guns have to be held on a Firearms Licence (FAC), which are issued by the local Police Force.

You can own as many shotguns as you like including pump and semi but there is a mag restriction placed on these. Shotguns require a Shotgun Licence, which again, are issued by the local Police Force.

You can’t own a gun for self-defence because the Police are there to protect you :rolleyes:

That’s about it – simplistically speaking of course!

Joey_the_Wolf
October 1, 2008, 06:57 PM
What happens if heaven forbid you were to shoot someone in self defence because they were breaking into your house for example? I've heard stories of a British farmer who did just that, yet enjoyed a nice long prison sentence because of it. Are laws/attitudes changing somewhat regarding that, or are you better off defending yourself with a tube sock full of D batteries (properly registered of course)?

schmidtundveßon
October 2, 2008, 05:56 AM
I don't have a photo of my 1941. Luger, but the others are here:

Smith & Wesson 627-5 Performance Center
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t166/hmandic/SW627-5PC1.jpg

Smith & Wesson 686-5 w/ Bushnell optic
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t166/hmandic/SW686-5small.jpg

Smith & Wesson 5904
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t166/hmandic/SW5904right.jpg

Beretta 89 w/ Hakko red dot
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t166/hmandic/Beretta89left.jpg

Shung
October 2, 2008, 06:00 AM
I am very interested to know how are gun laws in croatia ?

are the laws the same among ex yougoslavian countries ? (slovenia and serbia particullary)

Pilot
October 2, 2008, 06:51 AM
Thanks to Shung and Calibre for your excellent responses to my question.

Shung
October 2, 2008, 07:53 AM
that was an excellent question !

You are lucky. You live in one of my favourite state (CO)

Calibre44
October 2, 2008, 08:15 AM
Joey the Wolf wrote: What happens if heaven forbid you were to shoot someone in self defence because they were breaking into your house for example? I've heard stories of a British farmer who did just that, yet enjoyed a nice long prison sentence because of it.

Self defence is a difficult subject to quantity in a few paragraphs but there a few principles which will probably make you laugh at least. Basically we can defend ourselves if attacked but aren’t allowed to carry anything solely for defending ourselves or even have something in our homes solely for this purpose either – crap eh!?

The subtle difference is this … are you ready? – you can use any object you like to defend yourself if attacked so long as it comes to hand naturally and you haven’ brought it for that purpose. So harsh language is probably the only defence you have unless you are a Karate expert.

In your house for example, you may keep a bayonet, or any other sharp object, next to your bed because you have just cleaned it or because you feel it looks good as an ornament (the reason doesn't matter). If someone breaks in and attacks you can use it to defend yourself. If however, you have the bayonet or sharp object there just in case someone breaks in and then you use it you will no doubt find yourself in ‘hot water’. Every case is different of course in a court of law but the general feeling over here is that criminals have more rights than law abiding citizens.

Another extreme situation could be for example, that I’m cleaning my 12g one night and just happened to have the ammo near – someone breaks in and attacks me with a knife then I can shoot him. Again the subtle deference here is that I can’t keep the shotgun out just in case someone breaks in – boils my pi$$.

Are laws/attitudes changing somewhat regarding that, or are you better off defending yourself with a tube sock full of D batteries (properly registered of course)?

Lol that’s a good one! :D… however on a serious note, if, for what ever reason you had a hobby of collecting 'old socks full of D batteries' and grabbed it whilst being attacked you could legitimately use it to whack him with it. But you couldn’t use it if you but the batteries in the sock solely for that purpose – hope all this makes sense.

I fully support your Castle Doctrine Law – which is ironic as I think it came from our old laws anyway. But in Tony Martin’s case (the farmer you referred to) his mistake was shooting the scumbag in the back as he was running away. There was a public outcry to release him which probably went someway in getting him released in the end

It’s one of the fundamental differences between our countries – you can be proactive in defending yourselves and we can’t. I guess this is because the Government are sh.t scared that everyone will arm themselves with knives etc which will allow the bad guys to do the same using the excuse that they are carrying for self defence purposes. You and I know that this is crap because the bad guys carry nefarious objects whether it’s legal to do or not so it makes a mockery of it all and leaves us all disarmed and easy meat.

Support and protect your liberties and freedoms – we didn’t which is why bad guys always have the upper-hand.

philuk44
October 2, 2008, 09:31 AM
Hi Calibre

Yep - that's Melville range. Not advancing targets though - that's me shooting the 1500. I'm an ex pistol shooter and many of us, when our pistols were confiscated, took to shooting the old pistol matches with pistol calibre carbines and .22" semi-autos.

I'll be down at Bisley again in a fortnight for the Trafalgar historic arms meeting. I'll be taking the Enfield and I will be using the Marlin on advancing targets. I'll have to take the red dot off first mind you - not correct for period dont you know.......:D. I'll also be using the Winchester .22" pump - looking forward to it.

That is a nice looking SMLE. I've never fired one actually but there should be plenty in use at the Trafalgar. Looks like a good day on short Siberia. I shot a shotgun match on there last year - pump action involving prone, kneeling and sitting - and the place was like a bog. Yuck!:eek:

Ever get to any of the matches? - would be cool to meet up on the range someday or perhaps over a pint in the London & Middlesex..............

Phil

goerz
October 2, 2008, 09:38 AM
The subtle difference is this … are you ready? – you can use any object you like to defend yourself if attacked so long as it comes to hand naturally and you haven’ brought it for that purpose. So harsh language is probably the only defence you have unless you are a Karate expert.

Thank you for clarifying that, I wasn't aware of this severe limitation to self-defence in the UK, this law seems totally unreasonable to me. Here in Italy we can keep firearms ready to be used for home defence and some can carry concealed handguns for the same purpose (that kind of permit is difficult to obtain, although: only 45,000 such permits exist, over a population of more than 56 million). About 4.8 million households own at least a firearm, often a hunting shotgun or rifle (hunting is popular in certain parts of the country). Open carry is allowed only for armed security guards. Italy introduced the Castle Doctrine in its legislation in 2006, extending it to one's workplace, although the application of the law still leaves much to desire: in practice the judges keep indicting those who kill a burglar for self defence. Even if the process ends with an acquittal, it takes a lot of time and money (and the loss of one's firearms) to get clean. There was a famous case in 2004, when two jewellers, father and son, pursued two robbers on the street, shooting one of them in the back and killing him. The jeweller who killed the robber (the son; the father later said he was proud of what his son did) was sentenced to 18 months in prison; the father shot several rounds too, but he missed (on purpose?), and was sentenced to 1 month. The sentences were eventually suspended because they had no previous criminal record and they never put foot in prison. There is general symphaty in the public opinion for those who shoot for self defence, although I wouldn't say that less restrictive gun ownership laws would be welcome by the majority. There are some political parties on the left that strongly oppose private gun ownership, but they are not at the helm now and the current government has probably the most pro-gun attitude you could hope for in Italy (which may look ridiculously restrictive by US standards, but at least they aren't going to confiscate our firearms).
Regards,
Goerz

6_gunner
October 2, 2008, 09:56 AM
I learn something every day on THR!

Simplistically speaking all handguns are banned except Long Barrelled Revolvers (LBR in .357 and .44 mag and .22) and muzzle-loading pistols.

I thought that all hand guns were banned in England. What kind of legal hoops do you have to jump through to own a LBR? Are percussion revolvers subject to the same laws? Also, what barrel length must a revolver have to be classified as a "long-barrelled revolver"?

I am very interested in the firearms laws of other countries, especially in Europe. This is a fascinating thread.

Catherine
October 2, 2008, 10:15 AM
Great pictures and comments! Thank you.

I have a question about POST #6 on this thread please.

Philuk44, is that picture taken in a specific place in the United Kingdom and would you mind sharing it with us or in a private message? Thanks.

Catherine

philuk44
October 2, 2008, 11:58 AM
Hi Catherine

The picture in my post of me shooting the Enfield was taken at Otterburn ranges in the north of England. My club books it sometimes - great range with electronic falling targets at unmarked distances out to 800 or 1000 yards. Mind you, I can't hit them at that range with the Enfield but it shoots well out to 600 yards or so.

There's more information on the range here:

http://www.otterburnranges.co.uk/

Phil

Calibre44
October 2, 2008, 01:14 PM
6 gunner wrote: I thought that all hand guns were banned in England. What kind of legal hoops do you have to jump through to own a LBR? Are percussion revolvers subject to the same laws? Also, what barrel length must a revolver have to be classified as a "long-barrelled revolver"?

Any guns with a barrel length less than 30cm or an overall length less than 60cm except muzzleloaders and air pistols are banned.

The procedure to own a LBR is the same as for a rifle. Find somewhere where you have permission to shoot and have a reason to do so: target practice or competition shooting if fine as a reason. You also need to have somewhere to store it securely. Then apply to the local Police – so long as you have a gun safe that meets their recommendations, are of good character and not a criminal you should get a Firearms Certificate. The main problem with a LBR though, is the cost: typically approx £600 so that’s over a $1000 to you. I’ve fired a .44 Mag version, which was very accurate but painful on the wrist!

The procedure to own a muzzleloading pistol is actually the same. The only main difference is if you want to use Black Powder in it. You can use Pyrodex and 777 without a licence but not BP. You must first purchase a Police approved wooden storage box with compartments to store the BP in. The box must be secured to the fabric of the house so that it cannot be removed. It also has to be properly marked with certified explosive stickers. This is just in case Firefighters need to attend a fire so they know what they are dealing with. The compartments are designed to collapse in a fire to allow the BP to ignite in a cloud of smoke rather than explode. For this reason you are not allowed to store BP in a metal container since the pressure would cause it to turn into a bomb.

Once this has been done an Explosives Officer will check it all out and issue you with an explosives licence so you can purchase your BP – it runs for 3 years. You also need to obtain a licence to transport it but this is usually obtained via quick phone call and a faxed copy of your licence.

nwilliams
October 2, 2008, 01:38 PM
Thanks for all the info Calibre44, you've help answer a few lingering questions of mine about gun ownership in the UK.

Keep the pictures coming and thanks to all who have contributed so far, good stuff!

Gunnerpalace
October 2, 2008, 03:52 PM
BTW Anybody identify the rifle bottom left?


Looks like either a .22 or an airgun of some sort.

Barman, I really like the display cases and set up for the pistols. :)

philuk44
October 2, 2008, 04:28 PM
25 pdr

The rifle bottom left in your pic - is it an Air Arms? TX200 maybe?

If it's not then I'm stumped. Nice collection though.......... :D

Phil

Calibre44
October 2, 2008, 04:28 PM
Ever get to any of the matches? - would be cool to meet up on the range someday or perhaps over a pint in the London & Middlesex..............

Heay Phil

Used to go to a few years ago but usually only go twice a year - my club rents Melville range in March and Short Siberia in September. I’ll probably try and get to the Phoenix meet next summer as well – yep a pint of fine ale is always welcome!

cheers

Medusa
October 2, 2008, 04:45 PM
Not all are mine, but i get a hold on them once in a while (all pics are already been in a thread somewhere):

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=78484&d=1211229026

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=78468&d=1211226844

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=66132&d=1193380971

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=65413&d=1192214752

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=61565&d=1185732271

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=75358&d=1206708575

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=85019&d=1222014731

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=55443&stc=1&d=1174823463

Last pic is a new one (attached)

Shung
October 2, 2008, 04:55 PM
wow !!! :eek:

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=75358&d=1206708575

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=85019&d=1222014731


VERY NICE !!!

Catherine
October 2, 2008, 05:02 PM
Phil,

Thanks for the information and the LINK.

I thought that it looked like Northern England. Cool!

Take care.

Catherine

throdgrain
October 2, 2008, 06:12 PM
Hello all. I post a bit but rarely visit this part of the forum. Anyway, here's my trusty picture of my trusty Benelli M2. Theres still lots of shooters Great Britain, particularly shotgunners.

http://throdgrain.googlepages.com/IMG_0133.JPG/IMG_0133-large.jpg

Speedo66
October 2, 2008, 06:45 PM
Medusa, In the second photo, are those Swedish Ks?

barman
October 2, 2008, 06:47 PM
Wow, some real awesome gun collections on this thread. :eek:

Medusa
October 3, 2008, 01:18 AM
Medusa, In the second photo, are those Swedish Ks?

Yep, the real full-auto ones.

HB
October 3, 2008, 01:24 AM
Awesome thread

HB

Kind of Blued
October 3, 2008, 01:58 AM
I fully support your Castle Doctrine Law – which is ironic as I think it came from our old laws anyway.

You may not have such freedoms, but at least you have real castles. :)

This is a REALLY cool and eye-opening thread.

neapoi
October 3, 2008, 02:05 AM
Just thought I'd pop my head in here and say how wonderful it is to hear from our neighbors across the pond and beyond. Often times, we have many misconceptions about gun ownership in other countries. Thanks for the lesson guys! Keep it up!:)

schmidtundveßon
October 3, 2008, 03:29 AM
Shung: I am very interested to know how are gun laws in croatia ?

I'm quoting myself from another thread:
"You're allowed to have pretty much anything as long as it's not automatic or for military use only. You need a permit which is issued by the police and you can get one easily if you pass a medical and a background check (having no prior convictions etc.). Getting a CCW is much harder, but not completely forbidden."

I don't know much about gun laws in Slovenia or Serbia...

Boris Barowski
October 3, 2008, 08:22 AM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3288/2909740120_6748cef009.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/barowski/2909740120/)

(bigger version) (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3288/2909740120_987df5b5e9_o.jpg)

mauser K98k (S/42 1936)
K31
2x Marlin 336W (one I got for my 18th birthday, other one was so cheap I couldn't not buy it :p)
ERMA EM1 (M1 replica in .22lr, you probably know it as an "Iver Johnson")
HK USP Expert .40s&w
Dan Wesson Patriot Commander Bobtail (.45ACP, what else :p)

I'm Belgium, and more specifically the northern, Flemish part.
I'm 20 years old, and even the pistols are legally mine :)

nwilliams
October 4, 2008, 09:57 PM
**bump**

D-Day
October 5, 2008, 12:41 AM
It's an inspiration to see our friends around the world still bearing arms.

Mk VII
October 5, 2008, 07:32 AM
BAR from New England Small Arms with Auto-Ordnance barrel

http://www.fototime.com/AC7FF3AC130AC79/standard.jpg

Fred West
October 5, 2008, 11:39 AM
http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/oo157/HoraceBachelor/154.jpg

Fred

throdgrain
October 5, 2008, 11:59 AM
Nice one Fred :)

Hope you havent got anything buried under the patio though :(

JZ06
October 5, 2008, 12:16 PM
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b237/JZ06/BenelliNova12gauge.jpg

that is my benelli nova 12 gauge

here is my russian ij-70 makarov pistol

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b237/JZ06/DoubleStackMak-OtherSide.jpg

Calibre44
October 5, 2008, 12:17 PM
Nice collection Fred - is the 5th one down a AIA No4 in 7.62?

25 Pdr
October 5, 2008, 04:06 PM
The rest of my gun collection from page 2.

In spite of United Kingdom having very strict gun laws, we can still have lots to play with if you talk nice to Mr Policeman.


http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee142/smle_01/DSCF2429.jpg

Kentucky-roughrider
October 5, 2008, 04:13 PM
25 Pdr, what caliber is that lever action?

Everyone, this just proof's that we are not only nation with guns in privite hands.

25 Pdr
October 5, 2008, 05:47 PM
Kentucky-roughrider 25 Pdr, what caliber is that lever action?

It's a Rossi Puma in 38/357 with 16" Barrel.

Shung
October 5, 2008, 05:57 PM
a couple more of my guns !

CZ-V22 22lr conversion upper for AR

http://i54.servimg.com/u/f54/11/94/71/06/th/comple10.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=206&u=11947106)

my muzzloaders (walker 1847, Navy 1851, New Army 1858, Hawken .45)

http://i44.servimg.com/u/f44/11/94/71/06/th/dsc_0025.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=159&u=11947106)

Sharps 45-120

http://i44.servimg.com/u/f44/11/94/71/06/th/sharps10.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=12&u=11947106)

Mossberg500 and glock19 22lr from Advantage arms (beside one of my M4 and my Springield Armory 1911A1 mil spec)

http://i44.servimg.com/u/f44/11/94/71/06/th/antizo10.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=11&u=11947106)

more to come !

psyopspec
October 5, 2008, 06:08 PM
Impressive collections, all. Thanks for the insight into the laws of your respective countries. This is a very interesting thread!

nwilliams
October 5, 2008, 06:57 PM
JZ06 thanks for sharing.

What's your location btw?

Ingvarg
October 5, 2008, 07:18 PM
Hi there.

Some of mine : (Time to take new pic.)

http://frontpage.simnet.is/ingvarg/Byssur/CZ/safn.JPG

From the top:
Parker Hale 22/250
Mosin Nagant M91/30Pu 7,62x54r
Mosin Nagant M91/30 7,62x54r
Lee Enfield #4Mk1 303br. (My favourite)
Remington 22cal
Tos 22cal
Colt Oficial Police 38 spl (gone:()
High Standard 22cal
And few shotguns and a CZ75 TS not on the pic.

btw. The Colt OP. is sold :( ................But a new 9mm CZ-75 Tactical Sports filled its spot.:cool: (pic later) Pistols are few, far between, and expensive here in Iceland and something had to go to make some $$$$ for the CZ which I bought brand new from Danmark, couple of months ago.

Here one can have licence for 22cal bolt rifles and shotguns (except semi auto) at the age of 20. And a year later for bolt rifles up to 8mm and semi auto shotguns.
Handgun licence are really hard to get and then only for competition shooting and/or collecting.

Fred West
October 5, 2008, 09:04 PM
Nice collection Fred - is the 5th one down a AIA No4 in 7.62?
Yes it is. It shoots quite well, better than my Enfield No 4 anyhow.

Fred.

Chilean
October 18, 2008, 02:10 PM
Sorry, no pics now, but my stuff is

- a GLOCK 17
- a couple of 870 (police&express)
- a rossi 33 revolver 38 sp
- a CZ 97b
- a Ruger New vaquero 357
- an Anschutz 1416
- a Marlin 336

trying to get a mauser K98k....

Chilean
October 18, 2008, 02:17 PM
well I've found pics of some of the guns (well, I'm in my wife's laptop right now)


http://img86.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pict0138su9.jpg

http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pict0141ma4.jpg

http://img123.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pict0538mn6.jpg

Kestral
October 19, 2008, 12:09 PM
I have a total of 65 handguns from 22 to 455,reload all the calibres I have which gives me much satisfaction.Have just aquired cases at last for my Nambu`s 94 & 14,so I`m looking forward to trying them out soon.Half of my collection was donated by the German army 1945,as they didn`t need them anymore,We had to hand in the Spandaus & MP 40s back in 1997, was paid a very fair price for them too.but as long a we have good home security,you can enjoy having & using your collection.My only regret is that Im now in my middle 70s & want to keep on using them for at least another 100 yrs or so.Anyone know of any really good medicines.Kestral

BHP FAN
October 19, 2008, 01:01 PM
Keep on your zinc,and b&c complex vitamins.may you shoot and live long!

Coastie2010
October 19, 2008, 11:03 PM
Kestral, do the UK's gun laws not apply to the Channel Islands?

throdgrain
October 20, 2008, 03:38 AM
I dont think they do, do they Kestral? Same in the Isle of Man, which is a rain swept island in the middle of the Irish sea.

Kestral
October 20, 2008, 04:27 AM
Thanks for your interest,No, we do not come under the UK,we have our own Govt,we are also not part of the EU.We are British subjects of the Queen of England,but not represented to or part of the UK Govt,having no MPs either in the UK or the EU.All our firearms are registered,and have to be kept in a secure place,which is inspected by our Police,but they are very reasonable & helpful towards shooters & collectors,but woe unto you if you let the side down,drink driving,petty crime of any sort etc & you lose your lic for life.They also like you to have a reasonably sized collection,as they know the value of a persons collection makes them think twice before risking losing them all over something stupid.We have 2 main pistol clubs,2 full bore & 1 22 rifle clubs,plus Skeet & Clay clubs,plus forom 1st Oct to end of Feb each year you can shoot rabbits on the cliffs or public land,which when you consider we are 8.5miles long by max 5 miles wide with 65,000 people is not bad going.regards Kestral.ps We were occupied by Germany June12th 1940 till May 9th 1945, thats where most of our guns came from.

danilop
October 20, 2008, 05:27 AM
Greetings from Serbia, here is my modest collection (sorry for the picture quality - :o ):

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/1830/picture010xk3.jpg

From left to right:

1. Suhl 303 airgun
2. Brno Mod 2 .22LR
3. Zastava (Charles Daly).243 win, Bushnell Elite 3200 3-9x40
4. Zastava (Mark X) .30-06, Bushnell 3200 3-9x50
5. Baikal IZH 94 12/76 - .223Rem Bushnell 1,5-6x44
6. Baikal IZH 27 O/U 12/76
7. Baikal IZH MP153 12/89


http://i25.tinypic.com/2jbjnep.jpg
http://i29.tinypic.com/2mn0l1u.jpg
http://i37.tinypic.com/r28apd.jpg
http://i34.tinypic.com/344fqjo.jpg

solareclipse
October 20, 2008, 11:36 AM
instead of calling people foreign, why not call it "people outside the us" since thats what this thread is about right?

politics, a sensitive issue. and i envy the finnish. i think it was them that had silencers available over the counter.........

barman
October 21, 2008, 05:16 AM
erased

gvass
October 21, 2008, 10:14 AM
Funny "things" from Hungary:

http://www.nethirlap.hu/forum/userimgs/nhgal66U25C.jpg

http://www.nethirlap.hu/forum/userimgs/nhgalZtX78m.jpg

http://www.nethirlap.hu/forum/userimgs/nhgalcYwSxM.jpg

http://www.nethirlap.hu/forum/userimgs/nhgalDklNYf.jpg

http://www.nethirlap.hu/forum/userimgs/nhgal6sxysV.jpg

:neener:

Heinz
November 21, 2008, 09:44 AM
Well here goes my first post. Just joined today and might as well start by showing some of what I have. Pictures are outdated and I need to take some updated shots of new items I've added to my collection. :rolleyes:

Me with an UZI !!
88042
A British issue Enfield L1A1 with Trilux Scope, VZ 858 with tactical accessories and a GSG-5 for plinking fun
88043
Kimber Custom TLE II .45ACP
88044
And a Walther P99 QA
88045
Mix and match !!
88046

Shung
November 21, 2008, 10:28 AM
I think I was to show this here and now !

http://i74.servimg.com/u/f74/11/94/71/06/famill10.jpg

the 20inchers.. one will remain a M16A4 clone, and Im gonna turn the other one into a mk12mod0 clone !

Afy
November 21, 2008, 05:43 PM
here are some of mine.....


http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh178/afy08/partial.jpg

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh178/afy08/IMGP0022.jpg

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh178/afy08/IMGP0029.jpg

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh178/afy08/IMGP0324.jpg

Silvanus
November 22, 2008, 07:16 AM
We have pretty lax gun laws in Luxembourg. There are almost no restrictions whatsoever.

My humble collection: (I will be picking up a Les Baer 1911 in a few weeks :D)

FAL
http://i40.servimg.com/u/f40/11/50/35/28/fal_gu11.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=107&u=11503528)

Glock 17
http://i34.servimg.com/u/f34/11/50/35/28/glock110.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=84&u=11503528)

Sig Mosquito
http://i40.servimg.com/u/f40/11/50/35/28/sigmos10.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=128&u=11503528)

S&W 19-4
http://i40.servimg.com/u/f40/11/50/35/28/sw19ta10.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=147&u=11503528)

http://i30.servimg.com/u/f30/11/50/35/28/19nill11.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=175&u=11503528)

S&W 66-1
http://i50.servimg.com/u/f50/11/50/35/28/sw_66_10.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=155&u=11503528)

Browning HP
http://i18.servimg.com/u/f18/11/50/35/28/browni10.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=52&u=11503528)

S&W 60
http://i50.servimg.com/u/f50/11/50/35/28/sw_60_10.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=154&u=11503528)

Afy
November 22, 2008, 04:13 PM
Silvanus,

What are the laws around buying reloading supplies? And what type of powders etc can one get?
Will the shops ship to france?

neededausername
November 23, 2008, 02:57 AM
Wow, very interesting thread. I especially appreciate some of the insight from our friends that live in countries with restrictive gun laws. Hopefully I can use some of what has been said to help get some of my gun owning friends motivated about politics and their rights.

Medusa
November 23, 2008, 03:47 AM
Well, some countries are more restrictive, yeah. Mine for example. It's not very easy to get guns, as the process takes a little time and has it's taxes. And prizes are moderately high. And the number of gun owners and guns is small (a few % of the whole population has some weapons) - tragic consequences of long time of slavery and communist oppression. Though one could think that what the hey, it should be a lesson to actually arm ourselves, that never again. But world works in mysterious ways. So I could envy the fellows in US a bit, to have more freedom in this issue than we do. So what that for 2000$ I could buy myself a G36C with a suppressor and be allowed to use it for SD. Or spend some more and buy MG4.

Hey Shung, how is the availability of AR platform and accessories in your country? I could get an AR-10A4 from Finland, but accessories are hard to come by.

Shung
November 23, 2008, 06:10 AM
The only actual new AR that you can get in Switzerland are the Sabre Defense Industries.. Because they have a factory in UK which allow them to sell in europe.. most american brand DO not export AR's.. On 2nd hand, you can buy quite a lot of good Colt stuff that are all around, and that people barely use.

as for accessories, they are a few shops in Holland, Germany and Italy that import AR accessories, but the sell them nearly twice the american price, and this, mostly due to legal importation procedures, and of course their benefit. I much prefer buying things on ebay.. most of ebayer seems not to care about ITAR, and I got almost everything from there. (ACOGs, EOtechs, KAC handguards, DD handguards, Tango down stuff, etc etc)

this ITAR is a plague. Once I wanted to buy a neoprene scopecoat for my ACOG on a very well known US gunshop on the internet, and I was replied that they couldnt sell it to me.. I asked why.. they told me, because it could be mounted on an assault rifle... hell yes.. a scopecoat... My country issued me a full-auto, and ITAR won't sell me a scopecoat.. kinda funny..

philuk44
November 23, 2008, 09:38 AM
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r61/philuk44/S1031819.jpg

Here's a pic of my oldest gun. It's a Winchester model 62 in .22"

It's a bit unusual in that it has an octagonal barrel. Winchester didn't make many like that and as far as I know they were all exported. Still a sweet little shooter :D

Phil

Medusa
November 23, 2008, 12:04 PM
this ITAR is a plague. Once I wanted to buy a neoprene scopecoat for my ACOG on a very well known US gunshop on the internet, and I was replied that they couldnt sell it to me.. I asked why.. they told me, because it could be mounted on an assault rifle... hell yes.. a scopecoat... My country issued me a full-auto, and ITAR won't sell me a scopecoat.. kinda funny..

Uhuh, same story here, never mind the beltfed in the closet, that riflescope is pure evil.

bukijin
November 26, 2008, 07:03 PM
Here they are ... next on the list is a .22 handgun of some kind...

88307

Grassman
November 26, 2008, 07:14 PM
I'm not hip to any of England's gun laws. Are you able to have some rifles or shotguns? And all handguns are banned? Can any Englishmen enlighten me. Thanks

razorback2003
November 26, 2008, 09:50 PM
What kind of Smith and Wesson revolver is it in the Australian's picture? It looks like something from their specialty shop. I'm guessing a Glock 34 or 35? I myself have been wanting a 34 to add to my 19 as a centerfire target gun. 22 handguns are LOTS of fun and cheap to shoot.

lanternlad1
November 27, 2008, 12:55 AM
Grassman,
Calibre44 answered those questions earlier in this thread. Very enlightening.

Still like Tx better tho...

bukijin
November 27, 2008, 01:00 AM
The handguns are..

SW model 627. 8 rounds of .357 is serious firepower. Great single action trigger (double action is ok too) and 5inch barrel - really love this revolver.

G34 - lighter trigger than the 17, adjustable sights, accurate, fun. Yes you should buy this gun.

taliv
November 27, 2008, 10:26 AM
great thread.

i'm curious for those that posted... why so many american firearms? i saw very few european firearms. over here, we also buy a lot of sig/hk/fn/cz/etc in addition to the american makes.

is it availability? quality? cost? are they considered exotic or something

Afy
November 27, 2008, 10:45 AM
We do buy our share of Cz, etc.
Things like the FN are generally more difficult to buy. And prices well that is a different ball game

scrat
November 27, 2008, 11:07 AM
very nice guns guys very nice

lionking
November 27, 2008, 09:43 PM
Can I have permission by the members and mods to link this thread to another political forum I often debate on?Reason being some have told me American's are "gun nuts" and have used Europe to attempt to say others in the world aren't gun enthusiasts like Americans are and that Europeans can't own guns overall.I think this thread would dispell that.......

Shung
November 28, 2008, 06:54 AM
bring me to that debate as well ! I'm gonna have some polite fun !

nzsr
November 28, 2008, 12:36 PM
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w68/treebogan/IMGP0107.jpg
Camp Carbine 9mm.Home made silencer,totally leagle in New Zealand.It just didn't have the "horse power" to kill anything larger than small game at anything more than short range.

Good fun though

Silvanus
November 29, 2008, 06:18 AM
What are the laws around buying reloading supplies? And what type of powders etc can one get?
Will the shops ship to france?

You can buy as many reloading supplies as you want and pretty much all types and brands of powders are available. I do not think any shops will ship to France. You can come here and buy stuff, though. There are many people from France and Belgium (who live near the border of course) who buy guns and ammo here.

Mk VII
November 30, 2008, 11:09 AM
Here you cannot buy SPs or HPs, unless you can get a waiver from the cops for hunting or pest destruction ... and even then you still cannot use them for target practice.
No ammo, powder or primers can be ordered by mail.

goerz
January 14, 2009, 05:19 AM
A little update on my most recent purchase: Kimber Stainless Target II .45 ACP. My first 1911!
Regards from Italy,
Goerz

Shung
January 14, 2009, 07:21 AM
little update on my AR's !

http://i64.servimg.com/u/f64/11/94/71/06/th/arfam10.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=441&u=11947106)

UnclePete
January 14, 2009, 09:16 AM
Calibre44:-Interestingly though, Michael Ryan, who carried out the shootings at Hungerford, also used a 9mm pistol but these were not banned at that point. The Dunblane shootings however, involved minors which resulted in a groundswell of emotional anger being levelled at gun owners - the Government jumped at the opportunity to ban handguns.

As you say, Michael Ryan killed most of his victims with his Beretta 9mm pistol. He did not use a shotgun at all, but in the (Tory) legislation that followed pumps and semis were resticted to 3 shots or had to be on a firearms certificate.

To play devil's advocate, your point about handgun crime having risen since the ban bothers the antis not at all. In their view, what is never going to happen again is a licensed handgun shooter murdering a bunch of schoolkids. It is a very difficult view to counter.

Apologises to the OP for hijacking the thread, I will respond properly with photos of my shooting tools, even though I'm not a foreigner!

ZEN.45
January 14, 2009, 10:16 AM
An update on my post on page 1:

Erma .22LR M1 (with replica para stock) & Beretta .22LR Model 87
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/6969/s6001418cz5.jpg

L1A1 & P220
http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/7166/s6001409an2.jpg

Shung
January 14, 2009, 10:41 AM
I love that FAL !

Im looking for the same right now !

Calibre44
January 14, 2009, 11:44 AM
Unclepete wrote: To play devil's advocate, your point about handgun crime having risen since the ban bothers the antis not at all. In their view, what is never going to happen again is a licensed handgun shooter murdering a bunch of schoolkids. It is a very difficult view to counter

True … except that BP Pistols and Long Barrelled handguns are still legal and can inflict just as much damage – let’s hope the antis never find out!

Shung
January 14, 2009, 11:52 AM
what about fighting for getting your rights back ? is there any movement that stands this position in the UK ?

Kestral
January 14, 2009, 12:10 PM
To many to send pics,Collect & shoot them all,take 3 or 4 at a time to the range,different ones each week.Mainly use reloads of slightly reduced loads so as not to wear them out.

Dodahdude
January 14, 2009, 12:30 PM
Silvanus. I saw your pictures and could not believe how each photo turned out... Are you a professional photographer? P.S. you have a very nice collection as well.

UnclePete
January 24, 2009, 12:41 PM
My collection is meagre indeed, but this is what I have.

http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/oo232/wotsmyname/DSCF2452.jpg

Baikal hammer 12g, moderated Mossberg 500 .410, Air Arms (best in the world!) .22 air rifle, Miroku 6000 12g.

You also get to see one of my fine Scottish stone walls.:)

razorback2003
January 24, 2009, 06:44 PM
I wish we could get suppressors in the states without all the hassle and $200 tax stamp. It is a good idea that they are more freely available to protect hearing.

UnclePete
January 24, 2009, 08:32 PM
Suppressors are about the only unrestricted thing we have! I'd swap them for your freedoms.

Silvanus
January 24, 2009, 08:47 PM
Silvanus. I saw your pictures and could not believe how each photo turned out... Are you a professional photographer? P.S. you have a very nice collection as well.

Thank you. I'm not a professional photographer at all though. My pictures were taken with a small digtial camera. I tried every mode, flash/no flash, ect. until the pictures turned out good :D And they only do when I take the pictures outside, without too much sunlight... I have no idea what exactly I'd need to do to make good pictures indoors, here's what they usually look like...not good at all :(

http://i60.servimg.com/u/f60/11/50/35/28/p3220110.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=182&u=11503528)
http://i60.servimg.com/u/f60/11/50/35/28/p4020010.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=183&u=11503528)

HisDivineShadow
February 7, 2009, 11:19 AM
Okay Finland chiming in, this is my inventory as of today:
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z12/Skuggish/inventory.jpg

Sorry for the sucky photograph but my apartment isn't very good for taking photos, dark and requires a flash.

Anyway the list:
-Remington 870
-Winchester 9422 (from 1974)
-AR-15, Spikes Tactical model in .22lr, imported from the states 2½ months ago. Has a Brügger & Thomet suppressor.
-1911 in .45ACP, Norinco, shoots fine, needs trigger job.
-Ruger Mark III with suppressor (just a cheapo 35 euro one, not as good as the B&T).
-Glock 17 ambi.

Up and coming is a Sabre Defence M5 upper and hopefully an ACOG for it. An FN-FAL is also high on my list. Also looking for a Cimarron 1873 when I get the time and money.

HomeGuard
April 12, 2009, 12:58 PM
Hy


I am completely new on the forum. Happy Ester to all of you.

I am from Croatia, and just got all the permits needed for gun ownership,
situation here is bad,allmost like in UK.
I spent almost $1000 for all the papers need, most of them totally
unnecessary for sane mind.
(medical license, hunting license, metal storage, registration, and a whole bunch of birocracy...)

You can have almost everything that is not full auto or full auto look-alike.
(That means no AK's,AR-15's,FN FAL's...)
This is retarded because you can have CZ75,Glock 17 or Beretta 92Fs that look wery similar to the some full auto hand-guns.
It depends only on the "professionalism" of birocrates that will approve it or no,
and after all, on connection you have in police.
Same thing for gun carry.
But I prefer philosophy; "It is better to be lead by two, than carried by six.":p
Suppressors are forbidden without an exception for civilians.

You can own "expanding bullets" but only for hunting
(in pistols only for mercy execution, or how you call that!?)
and target shooting.
Even police carry FMJ which I found very irresponsible and stupid.

The "funniest" of all is that you cant shoot the burglar unless you ask him if
he would threaten your life,if so,only then you can shoot him,but your gun will be taken away(seriously!),that means you will go in the jail if you shoot someone that break into your house "only" to steal something.

But most of us prefer full clip from the AK47 ! :)

Another thing is illegal guns,you can buy them very easily for small money,
especially in Bosnia(they have only formal laws,but Bosnia is total anarchy)
Ak47's,especially those M70 Serbian versions can be found for as little as 200€,other most comon guns are M48,TT33 and SKS (Yugo versions).
Weapons from WW2 era are also common, specially German weapons(We were allies because they liberate us from the Serbian empire) like MP40,MG42,P08,k98...
There can be found for a little money,I even stumble upon the FG42 and G43 for less that $1000!
My grandpa used to own a Mauser C96 from WW1.

Yugo weapons are one of the best quality in the world, compared to German, even better than Russian stuff, only thing good from the ExYu...ehh......

And I almost forgot, penalty for having illegal gun/s is half of the cost of
having the legal stuff! :cuss:

As long as I know,situation in Serbia is much much worse,
normal people like hunter and sportsmen’s are restricted severely,
I think they can own only a 200 bullets per year or so,
(there was even some preposition of law in Croatia to do that)
while their drunk ultranationalist terrorists who done a lot **** in past
(That includes directly provoking WW1,Balkan wars,civil war in WW2 and aggression on
Slovenia,Croatia and Bosnia(some of you may heard for Bleiburg,Vukovar,Srebrenica…),
NATO bombing on Serbia,war in Kosovo…)
They own all sorts of auto and explosive weapons,not being controled by anyone.
I must say that Serbs have,at least,some kind of gun culture,while it has been
suppressed by out traitorous politicians.

Gun laws in Slovenia are the best.

Ther is no any kind of organization like NRA that defends our rights,
but I am almost certain that if some politician tried to ban all the guns,
he would be executed by someone.

We can suffer a lot of injustice, but when it is too much, it is too much!
We must take justice in our hand as a people or become extincted,that
is how stuffs here worked for thousands of years….ehhh…God bless USA!
.

Fred West
April 12, 2009, 04:16 PM
Happy Easter to you Homeguard and welcome to the forum. Thanks for your very interesting post on the law regarding firearms in Croatia.
The "funniest" of all is that you cant shoot the burglar unless you ask him if he would threaten your life,if so,only then you can shoot him,but your gun will be taken away(seriously!),that means you will go in the jail if you shoot someone that break into your house "only" to steal something.
But he told me he would kill me if I didn't hand over my possessions.

Fred

HomeGuard
April 12, 2009, 07:25 PM
I think that is enough to pierce his head with FMJ
(but NOT with "an expanding bullet":D)

Another big problem we are forced to live with are wars,
unlike your Americans who are "nuts" about everything "tactical",
we really NEED that "tactical" stuff to survive,not for play,but can't get it.

Luckily,last war ended 15 yrs ago,and we will live in peace in at least
10 years more,probably more,but this is how stuffs work here!

That is downside in living in beautiful nature and water rich country in the intersection between east and west and their interests :uhoh:

Dark Skies
April 13, 2009, 11:41 AM
Awful pictures, from an awful camera, taken by an awful photographer.

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u309/darkskies_bucket/DSCF0011.jpg

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u309/darkskies_bucket/DSCF0012.jpg

HomeGuard
April 14, 2009, 03:24 PM
...of the beautiful guns! :)

Dark Skies
April 15, 2009, 03:22 AM
Thanks. The only saving grace of my pictures. :)

wyk
April 15, 2009, 09:45 AM
Greetings Dark Skies, but I thought semi-auto rifles were banned in the UK? Well, guess I was wrong

Gunnerpalace
April 15, 2009, 09:09 PM
Probably Straight-pulls.

Dark Skies
April 15, 2009, 09:16 PM
The AR with the adjustable stock is a .22 semi - legal here. As is the AK-alike. The AR with the A2 stock is a straight pull bolt .223

mp510
April 15, 2009, 09:18 PM
Greetings Dark Skies, but I thought semi-auto rifles were banned in the UK? Well, guess I was wrong
They can still have semi0-auto .22's- which the top AR and the AK both are. The middle AR is a straight pull AR- meaning that you have to cycle every shot manually.

Morgo
May 17, 2009, 06:58 AM
Here's a small amount of mine

http://i392.photobucket.com/albums/pp4/brycemorgan452/P1020836.jpg

Morgo
May 17, 2009, 06:59 AM
http://i392.photobucket.com/albums/pp4/brycemorgan452/P1020847.jpg

Morgo
May 17, 2009, 07:00 AM
http://i392.photobucket.com/albums/pp4/brycemorgan452/P1020860.jpg

Morgo
May 17, 2009, 07:02 AM
http://i392.photobucket.com/albums/pp4/brycemorgan452/P1020879.jpg

Morgo
May 17, 2009, 07:03 AM
http://i392.photobucket.com/albums/pp4/brycemorgan452/P1020872.jpg

Morgo
May 17, 2009, 07:04 AM
http://i392.photobucket.com/albums/pp4/brycemorgan452/P1020792.jpg

Morgo
May 17, 2009, 07:05 AM
http://i392.photobucket.com/albums/pp4/brycemorgan452/P1020841.jpg

Morgo
May 17, 2009, 07:07 AM
http://i392.photobucket.com/albums/pp4/brycemorgan452/P1020850.jpg

Morgo
May 17, 2009, 07:08 AM
http://i392.photobucket.com/albums/pp4/brycemorgan452/P1020721.jpg

Morgo
May 17, 2009, 07:09 AM
http://i392.photobucket.com/albums/pp4/brycemorgan452/P1020722.jpg

Morgo
May 17, 2009, 07:10 AM
http://i392.photobucket.com/albums/pp4/brycemorgan452/P1020756.jpg

Morgo
May 17, 2009, 07:11 AM
http://i392.photobucket.com/albums/pp4/brycemorgan452/P1020776.jpg

Morgo
May 17, 2009, 07:12 AM
http://i392.photobucket.com/albums/pp4/brycemorgan452/P1020527.jpg

Morgo
May 17, 2009, 07:13 AM
http://i392.photobucket.com/albums/pp4/brycemorgan452/P1020534.jpg

Morgo
May 17, 2009, 07:14 AM
http://i392.photobucket.com/albums/pp4/brycemorgan452/P1020463.jpg

Morgo
May 17, 2009, 07:15 AM
http://i392.photobucket.com/albums/pp4/brycemorgan452/P1020831.jpg

Shung
May 17, 2009, 02:49 PM
wow, some neat stuff Morgo !!!

Foofles
May 17, 2009, 03:31 PM
Wow, amazing collections and I must say I learned a great deal from this thread. I was never too sure on the legality of guns throughout Europe, but this thread's showing me a lot from many countries.

gripper
May 17, 2009, 03:38 PM
I like the un- fluted cylinder on that S&W wheel gun,Morgo.
Is that still available as an option from the factory?

Morgo
May 17, 2009, 07:30 PM
Thanx guys,
Not sure about the Smith. Its a Simth & Wesson 686 International DX .357 Magnum, it was offered as a limited run a few years back. I don't think you will be able to buy it new now.

lionking
May 17, 2009, 10:36 PM
One of the greatest threads ever thanks to everybody!:cool:

Guitargod1985
May 18, 2009, 07:11 PM
Nice stuff, morgo. Say, what's the gun in the last pic?

Morgo
May 19, 2009, 02:31 AM
The last one is a S&W 2206 its a .22. I get asked that same question quite alot, I never knew it was so unknown.

sidibear
May 19, 2009, 07:55 AM
Taurus .45ACP long barrelled revolver with Nikon Monarch Red Dot(they have to be a minimum of 24" hence the bar on the butt)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v313/fordsierra/sidibears%20bit/guns/Gunmods0001.jpg

GSG 5 .22 with folding stock and Tasco RedDot
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v313/fordsierra/sidibears%20bit/guns/Gunmods0002.jpg

.357Magnum Marlin underlever with Eotech Red Dot
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v313/fordsierra/sidibears%20bit/guns/Gunmods0003.jpg

.243 Browning A-Bolt Stainless Synthetic with BOSS and Nikon Titanium scope
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v313/fordsierra/sidibears%20bit/guns/Gunmods0005.jpg

12g 1939 Browning Auto5
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v313/fordsierra/sidibears%20bit/guns/Gunmods0008.jpg

12g Browning Cynergy 24" prototype.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v313/fordsierra/sidibears%20bit/guns/Gunmods0007.jpg

1896 7x57 Mauser Boer war rifle (Spanish)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v313/fordsierra/sidibears%20bit/guns/Gunmods0006.jpg

Mateba Grifone .454 Casull with Nikon scope.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v313/fordsierra/sidibears%20bit/guns/Gunmods0004.jpg

12g Benelli Supernova pump with Pistol grip stock
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v313/fordsierra/sidibears%20bit/guns/Gunmods0009.jpg


.22, .45acp lead, .45acp fmj, .357mag lead, .357fmj, .45LC lead, .454Casull fmj, .243 85gr sp, .7x57 hpbt, 12g for scale.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v313/fordsierra/sidibears%20bit/guns/Gunmods0010.jpg

woodfiend
May 19, 2009, 08:40 AM
Guys, I have thoroughly enjoyed this thread. I am so sick of hearing people here in the States saying that "foreigners" have no guns. Nice to see gun lovers from all over the globe.

Medusa
May 19, 2009, 11:37 AM
Not the best pic, but something nonetheless.

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=94618&d=1237390678

Dunkelheit
May 24, 2009, 01:02 PM
Here´s my little overview.

joe817
May 24, 2009, 01:49 PM
A most fascinating thread to read, from start to last post! Thank all of you from all over the world in sharing your photos of your collections, and giving us good insight to the firearms laws and regulations. I've learned so much.

ullrotta
June 22, 2009, 07:47 AM
Mateba Grifone - WOW such a nice gun. What's it like to shoot? I only recently heard of Mateba, and was very intrigued. For those not in the know Mateba Wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mateba_Autorevolver)


My own collection is a mix of inheritance and guns I bought my self:

.45 ACP M/1914 Kongsberg Colt (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kongsberg_Colt), a Norwegian Colt. I inherited this from my uncle, who bought it in 1957. The gun it self is from 1925. It shoots great, but the dovetail is a little on the short side, so the hammer keeps slapping me

.380 ACP FN Browning (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FN_model_1910). A cute little gun, also inherited from my uncle. This particular piece was used as a defense weapon by the head cashier in Norwegian Bank, back in the days.

.22 Walther p22 Target (http://www.carl-walther.com/index.php?company=walther&lang=EN&content=products&hid=2&uid=2&product=172). This was the first gun I bought for my self, and I still regret it. It's a fun enough plinker, but will never be more. Lousy accuracy, and horrible sights. Fun gun to shoot though

.454 Casull Taurus Raging Bull (http://www.taurususa.com/product-details.cfm?id=235&category=Revolver&toggle=tr&breadcrumbseries=) 6,5". My heavy hammer. I love shooting this beautiful gun. Nice and accurate, and I can see the holes from 25 meter :D

.357 S & W 686 6" (http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=11101&storeId=10001&productId=14799&langId=-1&parent_category_rn=15705&isFirearm=Y) What a beauty! And it's such a nice gun to shoot. Accurate and well balanced. I recently acquired this gun, but it has quickly become my favorite.

My latest purchase I have yet to receive, due to some congestion in the logistics at CZ. I just started my IPSC career and ordered an CZ 75 SP-01 Shadow custom. I can't find a picture of it anywhere, so you'll have to fantasize until I can upload a proper one.


In Norway you have to have a hunter's license to own a rifle, or hold an IPSC rifle license. But you can't hunt with IPSC guns, for some reason. In order to own a handgun, you need to take a security course, and prove yourself as a responsible human being in a gun club. Usually they require at least 6 months membership with at least 10 attended meetings. Then you may apply for a gun license at your local police office. They will inquire about you at your club, and after a more or less thorough process, the police will grant you a license to buy a gun. You need to apply for each gun you buy, and you normally can only have one gun of each caliber, unless you can prove that you need one for practice and one for competition/backup practice.
Laws a pretty strict, but practice is subject the attitudes of local enforcers. In Oslo, our capital, getting a first gun in 9mm is nearly impossible because it's a "popular caliber amongst criminals". If you get a .22 first, you can have your 9mm a month later. Norway has one of the highest guns per capita in the world, much due to our strong traditions for hunting. The anti-gun people are on the move.


Seeing this is my first post: Hello everybody! Nice to be here!

Shung
June 22, 2009, 07:54 AM
I am jealous of Dunkelheit M1A1 (or M14)

hso
June 22, 2009, 10:58 AM
Thank you to all the THR members from outside the US who are helping to educate fellow members here and other folks all over the world.

Shung
June 22, 2009, 11:07 AM
I think that we get our fair share of education too in here ;)

lykoris
July 23, 2009, 06:00 AM
from Luxembourg (very small country in between France, Germany & Belgium)

2 British L1A1 FALs or as the Brits call them SLRs - all serials matching with a Tula '54 sks in between

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/4664/img0648m.jpg (http://img197.imageshack.us/i/img0648m.jpg/)

and a few handguns

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/396/img0653m.jpg (http://img32.imageshack.us/i/img0653m.jpg/)

hk-45
Browning HP or rather GP MKIII S
colt python

I was hoping to have a sig 550 with the lot but didn't get the serial number of the rifle in time for the paperwork to be sent in as it was still in production.

so yeah, civilians have firearms in Europe ;)

Pack
July 23, 2009, 11:31 AM
An amazing showing from our friends overseas! In the face of some similar red tape, I don't know that my collection would be as large. I applaud your dedication!

Comments:

Morgo - great, HUGE collection. Some pieces I've never seen before!

sidibear - the Mateba is wicked!! I must have one!

Lykoris - that's easily the nicest-looking SKS I've ever seen!

Medusa - amazing stuff! Love the subguns! Are there many vintage Soviet arms remaining in Finland from the "Winter War" and the "Continuation War?" I'm thinking specifically of the old Maxim machine guns on the sled-type mountings.

HomeGuard: Legal or not, if I could get MG42s, FG42s,etc. for about $1,000, I'd have to find a way to afford using them as wallcovering!!!

Dunkelheit: What a tidy, well-rounded collection. Great quality!

BunnyPuncher
July 23, 2009, 11:32 AM
^ lykoris - that's the nicest furniture I have ever seen on an SKS. Is that refinished? If so, how the heck did you do that?!? Pretty!

lykoris
July 23, 2009, 01:07 PM
I wish I could take the credit for it but the stock was like that when I got it...haven't had the courage to put it in boiling water.

it's a non-refurbished tula sks, apparently part of Ukraine stock that is being resold across Europe - it was covered in a thick layer of cosmoline which I think is what preserved it so well.

Snake.Doctor
July 23, 2009, 02:18 PM
Ok I think I should play :

MP5 :

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m189/jack_bauer_ch/Clipboard01.jpg

AKM47, AKMS47, AKS-74U ( original russian )

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m189/jack_bauer_ch/Armes/AKfamily.jpg

with Makarov, from Russia too :

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m189/jack_bauer_ch/Armes/DSC_0923.jpg

SDI M4 with several optics available ( ACOG TA01NSN, Eotech 553, Aimpoint CompM2, Aimpoint Micro T-1 ) :

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m189/jack_bauer_ch/Armes/M4acog.jpg

HK Family :

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m189/jack_bauer_ch/Armes/hkfamilyfull.jpg

K31 modified by myself :

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m189/jack_bauer_ch/Armes/swisssniper3.jpg

Survival AR-7

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m189/jack_bauer_ch/Armes/henry2.jpg

Nighthawk Custom GRP, the only one in Europe, pretty damn proud of it since it's the cover of the new book of a famous gun writer :

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m189/jack_bauer_ch/Armes/Clipboard01.jpg

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m189/jack_bauer_ch/Armes/Couv-Colt_01.jpg

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m189/jack_bauer_ch/Armes/DSC_0213.jpg

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m189/jack_bauer_ch/Armes/DSC_0210.jpg

Colt Series 70 :

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m189/jack_bauer_ch/Armes/DSC_0203.jpg

Beretta 92FS :

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m189/jack_bauer_ch/Armes/DSC_0200.jpg

G17 modified by myself for training and SHTF situations :

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m189/jack_bauer_ch/DSC_1133.jpg

My "Evil" P226 :

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m189/jack_bauer_ch/Armes/DSC_0189.jpg

And a lot more things hidden in my bunker room... Waiting for my next purchases to arrive ( soon )

Morgo
July 23, 2009, 08:13 PM
Thanx Pack! :)
I like the more unique firearms, I will try to post some of the others soon.

Morgo
July 23, 2009, 08:23 PM
Snake.Doctor thats a great collection!

Molon Labe CH
July 23, 2009, 10:03 PM
Here're some pictures of what I have (and before you ask...yup...everything is legally owned...and I wouldn't be stupid enough to show something illegal on the net :evil:)

If you have questions.....just ask

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t94/Molon_Labe_CH/DSC09845-Net.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t94/Molon_Labe_CH/060711073oa.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t94/Molon_Labe_CH/060711065ne.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t94/Molon_Labe_CH/060711054zz.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t94/Molon_Labe_CH/060711047wx.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t94/Molon_Labe_CH/060711038ex.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t94/Molon_Labe_CH/060711019jl.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t94/Molon_Labe_CH/060707061id.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t94/Molon_Labe_CH/060707010nv.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t94/Molon_Labe_CH/060706016xe.jpg

Molon Labe CH
July 23, 2009, 10:06 PM
2nd part of message (because I'm limited to 15 pics :neener:)

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t94/Molon_Labe_CH/060707025wu.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t94/Molon_Labe_CH/060706088bu.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t94/Molon_Labe_CH/060706101of.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t94/Molon_Labe_CH/060706070dl.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t94/Molon_Labe_CH/060706051nw.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t94/Molon_Labe_CH/allglocks060705023bh.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t94/Molon_Labe_CH/allglocks060705015bo.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t94/Molon_Labe_CH/DSC09752.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t94/Molon_Labe_CH/DSC00258Medium.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t94/Molon_Labe_CH/FL-P210-1.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t94/Molon_Labe_CH/DSC09831-Net.jpg

BTW, somw of you might recognise my alias, or more probably my guns....just say hi :)

Snake.Doctor
July 23, 2009, 11:24 PM
HI Molon :D

MrFox
July 24, 2009, 07:20 AM
Well...Looks like I need to learn German or French and move to Switzerland.

Shung
July 24, 2009, 07:43 AM
Hi Molon !

glad to read you in here ! The Swiss connection is getting stronger ;)

Blackbeard
July 24, 2009, 09:02 AM
Wow, almost makes me wish I were Swiss....

Nick_007
July 24, 2009, 09:25 AM
How is it that poeple in outside the US have more firearms freedoms than I do? I always thought it was illegal to have anything semi auto; let alone any tactical firearm. Damn East coast liberals :cuss:

Shear_stress
July 24, 2009, 09:42 AM
How is it that poeple in outside the US have more firearms freedoms than I do? I always thought it was illegal to have anything semi auto; let alone any tactical firearm. Damn East coast liberals

Wait, you thought all countries other than the U.S. had the same firearms laws(??)

Snake.Doctor
July 24, 2009, 09:43 AM
Maybe because we just had two world wars on our soil and I'll be there to explain my point of view if a third starts.

Don't worry, Switzerland is one of the last country in Europe with a gun-friendly law ( I mean, you don't need to be part of a shooting club, or something like that to own a weapon ). Switzerland had a long tradition of mercenaries and soldiers during the Middle-Age, but now it's over. And believe me, the europeans are working hard to change that...

Nick_007
July 24, 2009, 10:05 AM
Wait, you thought all countries other than the U.S. had the same firearms laws(??)

I thought they were more or less the same with minor differences, but very restrictive compared with the US all together. I thought you couldn't have anything except a firearm for hunting and nothing tactical except in the States. I know Britain and Germany have pretty strict firearms laws and figured the rest of Europe was the same.The exceptions being even stricter laws like in Australia that banned semi auto all together. I figured you could have semi auto in Europe but only 5 rounds and with a hunting license and a permit.

And I also thought that firearms ownership was pretty much an American thing. I'm glad I'm wrong. I got the idea from a GQ article I read once years that opined how silly American firearms are, compared with the rest of the world; and our "love affair" with firearms and all other anti crap. Lying sacks of . . .

Shung
July 24, 2009, 10:17 AM
Does this match your "idea" of "tactical :evil:

http://i64.servimg.com/u/f64/11/94/71/06/5ar10.jpg

http://i44.servimg.com/u/f44/11/94/71/06/antizo10.jpg

http://i54.servimg.com/u/f54/11/94/71/06/fa110.jpg

lykoris
July 24, 2009, 10:49 AM
Czech Republic is more liberal than Switzerland when it comes to firearms and they have also kept ccw which (unfortunately) the Swiss have lost that right quite a number of years ago, lost the right to keep service ammunition at home and then the referendum to revoke the service weapon from the household.

I don't think it is a coincidence either that they are to a large extent anti-EU despite having joined it - Czech Republic that is.

For Luxembourg, I can buy anything above so long as it is recorded on a license and have the paperwork, I'm actually surprised you have moderators, thought they were illegal for use in Switzerland or near impossible to get a permit unless pre '99 ( I think :confused: )

I find it extremely ironic that Europe has had two world wars on its soil with countless millions dead but firearms ownership among civilians is frowned upon by socialist/left governments and restrictions get worse every year - e.g. 2-3 weeks ago the Irish government effectively banned fullbore handguns from civilian use.

While I firmly believe the prospects of conflict in Europe are extremely low nobody knows what can happen - I mean our entire financial system was close to a complete collapse last September, think of the chaos that would have caused :what:

and to get back on topic, apologies for the rant :o

I just find it disheartening to witness this European wide belief in collective security and a acceptance to throw traditions aside for the greater good (integration) of European countries. There is strength in diversity rather than this USSR (i.e. E.U.) collective good non-sense.

Both the Nice & Lisbon treaty is proof the institution being created is anything but democratic.

LWYM425
July 24, 2009, 11:03 AM
Would anyone be interested in starting a thread with a list of countries represented and a general overview of local gun laws (especially laws pertaining to "non-citizens" :D ). Of course I imagine this could be difficult... sometimes I get confused about which states allow what for who. So maybe the country and a link to a website containing laws? For the US a link to the opencarry maps would be helpful, albeit unofficial.

I read through this thread (very impressed, friends, very impressed) and thought about summarizing what was already posted for UK, Croatia etc... but I thought that would end up being more of an opportunity to put my foot in my mouth then facilitate info sharing.

Any one want to get that started with their country top of the list?

Snake.Doctor
July 24, 2009, 11:44 AM
Done, thread : Gun laws around the world in the General Gun Discussions ;)

Shung
July 24, 2009, 11:45 AM
I've explained Swiss laws on many many pages.. look at my 1st post on THR if you wanna find them.

Ka'boom
August 8, 2009, 01:02 AM
Hello from Switzerland :)
here some pictures of my small family :

A part of the "gang"
http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss255/HTransam/00-KaboomsFamily.jpg

First, the "swiss way of life" my two "K31" cal 7,5x55 (7,5 Swiss)
http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss255/HTransam/KaboomToys031.jpg

Followed by the american way of life, With a SDI XR-15 M4
http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss255/HTransam/SDIXR-15M410.jpg
http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss255/HTransam/th_BerettaM906.jpg (http://s581.photobucket.com/albums/ss255/HTransam/?action=view&current=BerettaM906.jpg) http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss255/HTransam/th_SDIXR-15M406.jpg (http://s581.photobucket.com/albums/ss255/HTransam/?action=view&current=SDIXR-15M406.jpg) http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss255/HTransam/th_SDIXR-15M404.jpg (http://s581.photobucket.com/albums/ss255/HTransam/?action=view&current=SDIXR-15M404.jpg) http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss255/HTransam/th_SDIXR-15M403.jpg (http://s581.photobucket.com/albums/ss255/HTransam/?action=view&current=SDIXR-15M403.jpg)

And a Beretta "M9" US Army model
http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss255/HTransam/BerettaM901.jpg
http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss255/HTransam/th_BerettaM905.jpg (http://s581.photobucket.com/albums/ss255/HTransam/?action=view&current=BerettaM905.jpg) http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss255/HTransam/th_BerettaM903.jpg (http://s581.photobucket.com/albums/ss255/HTransam/?action=view&current=BerettaM903.jpg) http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss255/HTransam/th_BerettaM907.jpg (http://s581.photobucket.com/albums/ss255/HTransam/?action=view&current=BerettaM907.jpg)

My bodyguard ;), the Remington 870 Express Magnum
http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss255/HTransam/Kaboom012.jpg

Oups :D ! already 15 pics, don't miss the next episode

"See you"

Matrix187
August 8, 2009, 01:41 AM
The Swiss posters seem to have a lot more American guns than I do. Send those American guns back to the US, where they belong... with me.:)

On a separate note, I talked to a couple from the Czech Republic, and they thought I was weird for owning guns here in the US. :eek:

Ka'boom
August 8, 2009, 01:42 AM
Hey !

I'm already back, with my US-M1 Carbine (I like it so much)
http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss255/HTransam/Kaboom010.jpg

Now some european guns :
http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss255/HTransam/th_Anti-TrollGlock17-18C-BerettaM9-Sig.jpg (http://s581.photobucket.com/albums/ss255/HTransam/?action=view&current=Anti-TrollGlock17-18C-BerettaM9-Sig.jpg)

The H&K Mk23, my first handgun
http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss255/HTransam/HKMk2306.jpg

http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss255/HTransam/th_HKMk2307.jpg (http://s581.photobucket.com/albums/ss255/HTransam/?action=view&current=HKMk2307.jpg)

The Sig P228
http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss255/HTransam/SigP22801sansflash.jpg

http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss255/HTransam/th_SigP22802.jpg (http://s581.photobucket.com/albums/ss255/HTransam/?action=view&current=SigP22802.jpg)

The Glock Brothers (Glock 17 & Glock 18C)
http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss255/HTransam/GlockBrothers02.jpg

http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss255/HTransam/th_GlockBrothers04.jpg (http://s581.photobucket.com/albums/ss255/HTransam/?action=view&current=GlockBrothers04.jpg) http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss255/HTransam/th_SlideCoverPlate02.jpg (http://s581.photobucket.com/albums/ss255/HTransam/?action=view&current=SlideCoverPlate02.jpg) http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss255/HTransam/th_Glock18C08.jpg (http://s581.photobucket.com/albums/ss255/HTransam/?action=view&current=Glock18C08.jpg) http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss255/HTransam/th_Glock18C12.jpg (http://s581.photobucket.com/albums/ss255/HTransam/?action=view&current=Glock18C12.jpg)

The AK-47 SUF 7,62x39 (Arsenal, Bulgaria)
http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss255/HTransam/AK-47SUF02.jpg

http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss255/HTransam/th_AK-47SUF04.jpg (http://s581.photobucket.com/albums/ss255/HTransam/?action=view&current=AK-47SUF04.jpg) http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss255/HTransam/th_AK-47SUF03.jpg (http://s581.photobucket.com/albums/ss255/HTransam/?action=view&current=AK-47SUF03.jpg)

And for the next time
http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss255/HTransam/th_AK-47SUFwithStrikeFireMP5withAimpoi.jpg (http://s581.photobucket.com/albums/ss255/HTransam/?action=view&current=AK-47SUFwithStrikeFireMP5withAimpoi.jpg)

"See you"

Nematocyst
August 8, 2009, 01:51 AM
OK, this thread is totally lame without pictures.

When is someone going to post some pics?

:what:

I need a T1 line just to view this thread.

Ka'boom
August 8, 2009, 01:52 AM
Yep !

Now the third part, with my MP5 A3 (Full Auto)
http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss255/HTransam/MP5A301.jpg

http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss255/HTransam/th_MP5A306.jpg (http://s581.photobucket.com/albums/ss255/HTransam/?action=view&current=MP5A306.jpg) http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss255/HTransam/th_MP5A307.jpg (http://s581.photobucket.com/albums/ss255/HTransam/?action=view&current=MP5A307.jpg)

My Sterling-Patchett Mk4 L2A3 (Full Auto)
http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss255/HTransam/Sterling-PatchettMk4L2A305.jpg

http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss255/HTransam/th_Sterling-PatchettMk4L2A304.jpg (http://s581.photobucket.com/albums/ss255/HTransam/?action=view&current=Sterling-PatchettMk4L2A304.jpg) http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss255/HTransam/th_Sterling-PatchettMk4L2A306.jpg (http://s581.photobucket.com/albums/ss255/HTransam/?action=view&current=Sterling-PatchettMk4L2A306.jpg) http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss255/HTransam/th_Sterling-PatchettMk4L2A303.jpg (http://s581.photobucket.com/albums/ss255/HTransam/?action=view&current=Sterling-PatchettMk4L2A303.jpg)

My two Thompson (1928 A1 & 1928 M1A1, the both Full Auto)
http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss255/HTransam/Thompson1928M1A103Sepia-prog.jpg

http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss255/HTransam/th_Thompson1928M1A101.jpg (http://s581.photobucket.com/albums/ss255/HTransam/?action=view&current=Thompson1928M1A101.jpg) http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss255/HTransam/th_Thompson1928M1A102.jpg (http://s581.photobucket.com/albums/ss255/HTransam/?action=view&current=Thompson1928M1A102.jpg)

http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss255/HTransam/Thompson1928A103Sepia-prog.jpg

http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss255/HTransam/th_Thompson1928A102.jpg (http://s581.photobucket.com/albums/ss255/HTransam/?action=view&current=Thompson1928A102.jpg) http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss255/HTransam/th_Thompson1928A106.jpg (http://s581.photobucket.com/albums/ss255/HTransam/?action=view&current=Thompson1928A106.jpg) http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss255/HTransam/th_Thompson1928A108.jpg (http://s581.photobucket.com/albums/ss255/HTransam/?action=view&current=Thompson1928A108.jpg)

And a last, a chinese production of the Mauser 98K of 1936 or 1937
http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss255/HTransam/Kaboom005.jpg

"See you"

baryon
August 8, 2009, 02:11 AM
Ka'boom, Is the MP5 full auto?:D

Birdmang
August 8, 2009, 02:14 AM
I wouldn't even want to know.

But I already can guess.

Ka'boom
August 8, 2009, 02:36 AM
Yes, baryon,

The MP5 A3, the Sterling Mk4, the Thompson 1928 A1 & M1A1 and the Glock 18C are full auto :o
We can have full auto weapons but we need a special authorisation (which cost ~ $ 120.- for three weapons :scrutiny:) for shooting with them.

For the MP5 A3, I've got two "lower" : one semi and one full auto ;)

"See you"

Musket
August 8, 2009, 06:29 AM
Hello,

I am Dutch and collect antique American firearms.......so plse take a look at my site:

www.antiquefirearms.nl

I am looking for collectors, who own weapons made by W.W. Marston

Musket

dev_null
August 8, 2009, 12:36 PM
Shung, if I ask really nicely, will you put me in your will? ;)

Shung
August 8, 2009, 05:19 PM
Sure you can ask ! ;) btw, snake doctor, molon, ka'boom and myself all know each others irl ! Switzerland is small ! Talk about gun density ! ;-)

Silvanus
August 9, 2009, 05:04 PM
Wow, nice hardware you got over there in Switzerland ;)

Do you guys happen to know any Swiss online shops that have Eotechs in stock? I have a hard time finding any for a reasonable price...

Here's my latest acquisition:

http://i80.servimg.com/u/f80/11/50/35/28/gmag2110.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=285&u=11503528)

http://i80.servimg.com/u/f80/11/50/35/28/ar1510.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=268&u=11503528)

http://i80.servimg.com/u/f80/11/50/35/28/ar15210.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=269&u=11503528)

http://i80.servimg.com/u/f80/11/50/35/28/ar15910.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=271&u=11503528)

Shung
August 9, 2009, 05:13 PM
There is somebody on www.petitesannonces.ch who sell some ! Acogs as well

macro01
August 10, 2009, 11:10 AM
is that AR-15 full auto?

Shung
August 10, 2009, 02:28 PM
Don't know about his, but one of mine (the one with the eotech 553) is ! M16a1 lower with a M4 (14.5) upper, both from colt

Silvanus
August 10, 2009, 03:50 PM
Thanks for that link Shung :)

is that AR-15 full auto?

Mine? No. Semi-only version.

Bohemus
September 16, 2009, 07:12 AM
I am just poor student and gun-beginner so my "collection" is next to none.
my CCW's:
Beretta 70 22lr - cheap plinking during brakes between lessons
Ruger LCP - not to scare my schoolmates
FSN01 - castrated(semiauto) Sa Vz.58 :-(

BunnyPuncher
September 16, 2009, 12:23 PM
I think this is my favorite thread on THR.

moar gunz please!!!!

Kestral
September 16, 2009, 01:21 PM
To many to send pics,can have what we want providing secure storage is satisfactory,but if your pulled up for any law breaking,especially drink driving or similar,You loose the lot,and will never be granted another lic.

Kestral
September 16, 2009, 01:35 PM
List of items on licence

Skoghund
September 16, 2009, 03:07 PM
Hunting rifle time.
Merkel211E 12-7x57R
http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb311/skoghund/firstpics319.jpg

Mauser M03 Extreme S&B scope
http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb311/skoghund/M03005.jpg

Heym-Ruger Killed more deer with this rifle than i care to think about.
http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb311/skoghund/Heym.jpg

Shung
September 16, 2009, 04:41 PM
last baby :)

http://i84.servimg.com/u/f84/11/94/71/06/mk18ct10.jpg

ZEN.45
September 17, 2009, 04:42 AM
Another update on my posts on pages 1 & 5:

IMI 7,62mm Sniper (I should have the scope mount soon):
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/3643/s6001520.jpg

IMI 7,62 Galil SAR:
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/6813/s6001510.jpg

Ka'boom
February 9, 2010, 10:17 PM
Yep !

Ka'boom is back in town, with two new toys (and always with his bad english :evil:).
Of course both MG's are entirely functional :cool:

First, The MG 42, cal 7,92 (Rheinmetall-Maget, 1944) :

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/3281/mg4201.jpg (http://img97.imageshack.us/i/mg4201.jpg/)

http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/6508/mg4202e.th.jpg (http://img31.imageshack.us/i/mg4202e.jpg/) http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/4681/mg4203.th.jpg (http://img22.imageshack.us/i/mg4203.jpg/) http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/9508/mg4204.th.jpg (http://img22.imageshack.us/i/mg4204.jpg/) http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/5848/mg4205.th.jpg (http://img215.imageshack.us/i/mg4205.jpg/) http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/9943/mg4206.th.jpg (http://img9.imageshack.us/i/mg4206.jpg/) http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/5107/mg4207.th.jpg (http://img9.imageshack.us/i/mg4207.jpg/)

(End of part one)

dbb1776
February 9, 2010, 10:39 PM
You Swiss guys have better firepower and take better pics than we do here in the US!

Ka'boom
February 9, 2010, 10:44 PM
(Part Two)
Yes dbb1776, every Swiss citizen has the firepower of an aircraft carrier at home :D

And now secondly, perhaps the most important piece in my collection (and maybe also in my heart ;))
The Browning M2HB .50 BMG with the AA M63 Mount :

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/3669/browningm2hb04.jpg (http://img85.imageshack.us/i/browningm2hb04.jpg/)

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/9374/browningm2hb01.th.jpg (http://img19.imageshack.us/i/browningm2hb01.jpg/) http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/9306/browningm2hb02.th.jpg (http://img136.imageshack.us/i/browningm2hb02.jpg/) http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/2509/browningm2hb03.th.jpg (http://img189.imageshack.us/i/browningm2hb03.jpg/) http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/3280/browningm2hb05.th.jpg (http://img685.imageshack.us/i/browningm2hb05.jpg/) http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/5251/browningm2hb06.th.jpg (http://img199.imageshack.us/i/browningm2hb06.jpg/) http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/9830/browningm2hb07.th.jpg (http://img706.imageshack.us/i/browningm2hb07.jpg/) http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/9481/browningm2hb08.th.jpg (http://img37.imageshack.us/i/browningm2hb08.jpg/)

Now I understand why this is called "Heavy Machine Gun" :eek:
... Oh my poor back :scrutiny:

So long :)

PS : I' would like to thank my girlfriend for her comprehension and patience :what: :rolleyes:

amprecon
February 9, 2010, 11:20 PM
It is truly a sad state of affairs when Americans begin envying the gun rights of other countries.

josh...just josh
February 10, 2010, 12:49 AM
It is truly a sad state of affairs when Americans begin envying the gun rights of other countries.

it's hard not to envy a Ma'-Deuce

Nick5182
February 10, 2010, 01:01 AM
Man...proud to be an American? Looking at some of these collections is making me wish I was a little more....uh...proud... so to speak.

nwilliams
February 10, 2010, 02:38 AM
WOW!:eek:

It's not every day you see a Ma-Deuce sitting in someone's living room!

Ka'boom you are now a contender for the international coolest guy of the year contest! Congrats!:D

Shung
February 10, 2010, 04:58 AM
Ka'boom, when you get to shoot this thing, LET ME KNOW, i want to be there :)

Kernel
February 10, 2010, 09:45 AM
Now we know why Swiss Cheese is so full of holes. ;)

rojocorsa
February 10, 2010, 03:11 PM
And here I am getting exited over mere Mosin-Nagants... :scrutiny:

Shung
February 10, 2010, 03:56 PM
While we are at it, here's a couple of new toys !

http://i14.servimg.com/u/f14/11/94/71/06/magpul11.jpg

http://i14.servimg.com/u/f14/11/94/71/06/usp110.jpg

http://i14.servimg.com/u/f14/11/94/71/06/akmak110.jpg

Uhrmacher
February 10, 2010, 04:42 PM
So is it difficult for you mainland Europeans with governments that allow it to get firearms imported or is it something that can be fairly easily arranged? Seems like finding dealers with exactly what you want on hand might not be easy in a small country.

Shung
February 10, 2010, 04:59 PM
It was very easy until the USA introduced the ITAR... for a couple of years it has been a pain to get even AR accessories.. We are treated like talibans..

it's still pretty easy anyway, and we have european manfacturers as well..

Nick5182
February 10, 2010, 05:10 PM
I just want to say thanks to everyone who posted their collections on here so far, it's great to see what firepower you guys have over seas, and when I say firepower, I mean FIREPOWER (Ma-Deuce), but once again thanks.

Good_to_go
February 11, 2010, 08:09 PM
God Bless Ameriaca!

Morgo
February 12, 2010, 01:17 AM
God Bless Ameriaca!
More like, God Bless The Swiss!

Awesome stuff Ka'boom! :)

Palehorseman
February 12, 2010, 05:36 AM
[@Shung ]

that is some nice metal and wood, congrats on your hoard.:)

ChronoCube
February 13, 2010, 12:42 AM
What model of AK is that (what Shung has)?

Shung
February 13, 2010, 06:36 AM
Its a Norinco Mak90 that I recently refinished

Silvanus
February 13, 2010, 10:16 AM
So is it difficult for you mainland Europeans with governments that allow it to get firearms imported or is it something that can be fairly easily arranged? Seems like finding dealers with exactly what you want on hand might not be easy in a small country.

It's very easy to get all brands of weapons (in Luxembourg at least) except the ones from America :( My favourite dealer had to wait over 1 year to receive a batch of Savage rifles. American ARs are pretty much impossible to get right now. There are other, very good brands on the market for us, but a lot of people would prefer an American one just like most people would prefer an original Russian AK.

Shung
February 13, 2010, 10:32 AM
you gotta love ITAR..

Silvanus
February 13, 2010, 10:44 AM
Yeah... :(

But I'm quite happy with my Dlask Arms :) Will post pictures of that one later, too.

What brand of ARs do you own, if I may ask?

edit: I don't know if this is the right thread to ask about this, but I've heard (from you I think) about ProTell (that's the name right?) in Switzerland and was wondering if you know if there are any other European organisations that fight for gun rights? If anyone, I thought you might know... ;)

Shung
February 13, 2010, 11:43 AM
I own AR's from Sabre Defense Industries, Armalite, 3x Colts and one franken 22lr AR with a Swiss lower (WFC) and a Czech upper (V-22).

I've heard Dlask are quite good, and the one that I handled was just fine.

Yeah, Pro Tell, this is right.. Personally I am member for Pro Tell and the NRA. There are a couple of european organisations, but they aren't much known or usefull.. There is the Antac in France for example... but frankly, I couldnt give you any good advices here.

goerz
March 7, 2010, 05:30 AM
I own just a small collection, but I'm very proud of it:

http://imgur.com/kbewT.jpg

http://imgur.com/guPnq.jpg

http://imgur.com/vBeGD.jpg

Regards from Italy,
Goerz

Calibre44
March 7, 2010, 11:22 AM
A few new additions since my last set of pics:
CZ452 in .22LR
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg230/woodsy_2008/Guns/misc017-2.jpg
Lee Enfield No4 in .303
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg230/woodsy_2008/Guns/misc008-1.jpg
HW97K (air rifle) in .177
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg230/woodsy_2008/Guns/misc137.jpg

ClayInTX
March 7, 2010, 09:02 PM
This is one of the best informative threads on HighRoad. I have always heard the left-wingers talking about how Europe is so safe because they have no guns, and didn’t know if that was correct or not; about having no guns.

I’m glad to learn America is not the only place with the right to arms. However, we still have work to do here. We’re not completely there yet but we’re getting closer.

Of course I already knew about the Swiss, but the lefties will lie about Suisse every chance and say it isn’t like that at all.

It seems that some of the other countries have an even better situation than we Americans in some things.

Now if we can just get Canada straightened out.

FIVETWOSEVEN
March 7, 2010, 09:24 PM
Kaboom I envy you and your glock 18s, same with the P210s molon.

nowool
March 7, 2010, 10:21 PM
I'm a US expat living in New Zealand; we are allowed FA weapons and semi's that don't hold more than 7 rounds without a permit. We register the person, not the gun. Sorta like the US under Regan, that's why I moved here. I can build any semi, own any semi or auto as long as I prove i'm not a criminal. small step but heaps better than what I lived with under Clinton.

FIVETWOSEVEN
March 9, 2010, 05:25 PM
Hey shung, If I were to move to Switzerland, could I bring guns from the US?

lykoris
March 10, 2010, 12:00 PM
Calibre44,

I absolutely LOVE that weihrauch, have a HW-85 in .177

and have these pcps

http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/3894/img0280ugg.jpg (http://img638.imageshack.us/i/img0280ugg.jpg/)

Where abouts in the UK are you?

lykoris
March 10, 2010, 12:02 PM
I think what I love the most about shooting air is there is no cleaning and it costs the price of a pint to spend an entire day shooting!

Ka'boom
March 16, 2010, 11:44 PM
I own just a small collection, but I'm very proud of it:

http://imgur.com/kbewT.jpg
Regards from Italy,
Goerz

Hi Goerz,
Superb rifle (more informations about it ?)
The wood seems to be in excellent condition :)
The SP-01 & Kimber are very nice too.

@ Calibre44 : I like so much your Lee Enfield (but I have to confess I have a very little preference for the "Jungle Carbine" :o)
To be the happy owner of a Lee Enfield is an old dream I will undoubtedly realize "one of these days" :)

Kaboom I envy you and your glock 18s, same with the P210s molon.
And I wish to have a second one, just to have one in each hand :evil: ... Oups ! I just hope my girlfriend will not read this :p She's a little bit nervous after the "MA-Deuce Affair" :D

"See You soon" ;)
Ka'boom

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