Remingtom made mosin nagant 30-06?


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Eric F
October 5, 2008, 11:37 AM
Ok what can the mosin nagant guys tell me about these?

My brother called and saked about a remington mosin nagant. I know they are around abd I have seen them in 30-06 before but I dont know much about them.

The date is not stamped wery well but it is clearly stamped 30-06. He didnt get the serial number but the guy selling it claims he has had it since the 30's and he bought it as is new direct from remington as a surplus rifle.

What are they worth? This guy is asking $600 any thoughts?

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phantomak47
October 5, 2008, 11:53 AM
I am not an expert on this subject, you might want to do a search or other posters will chime in on this one. I do remember a thread like this about a month ago.


Those are conversions, and there are bad and dangerous conversions. I would run away from them.


heres a thread.


http://thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=390650&highlight=mosin+nagant+30-06

sharkhunter2018
October 5, 2008, 11:57 AM
The U. S. government sold its remaining M1891s as surplus during the 1920s, many to individual Americans for the princely sum of $3.00 apiece; they had cost the taxpayers $30.00 each when the government bought them from Remington and Westinghouse. These rifles were popular as cheap shooters for years, and some were made into hunting- and sporting rifles in the 1920s and ‘30s. One of the commercial sales was to Bannerman’s, the great New York City military surplus house, which had the guns converted to fire the common .30-06 round; the rifles have the new caliber stamped on their actions. These guns can still be found but should NOT be fired: the conversions were not done to modern safety standards and these rifles are considered dangerous to shoot. Though interesting as collector’s items, they should be deactivated by removing the firing pin, or clipping the end off the firing pin, or by any other means to ensure that they cannot be fired by accident or design.

Off of http://www.mosinnagant.net/ussr/US-Mosin-Nagants.asp

PTK
October 5, 2008, 11:58 AM
Not worth $600, as it's been converted to 30-06. If it were still 7.62x54R, it might be worth that much depending on condition. I'd pass. :)

Eric F
October 5, 2008, 12:11 PM
Too bad sounded like it might have been a good find. Thanks for the relpies.

R.W.Dale
October 5, 2008, 04:02 PM
The Bannerman 30-06 conversions from the 20's and 30's are quite collectible and somewhat expensive while at the same time are completely unsafe to shoot

AmishFury
October 6, 2008, 12:15 AM
once again a bannerman is not unsafe to shoot... lapin's book (the text on that page at mosinnagant.net is copied directly from the book) has a number of errors even in it's latest edition and this bit of misinformation is one of them

bannermans are the only .30-06 conversions that are safe to shoot but are rare enough to justify not shooting it

the rifleer
October 6, 2008, 12:57 AM
i wouldnt want to shoot it, as the 30.06 round is a higher pressure round than the original 7.62x54r round. the other thing is that the 30.06 bullet is slightly smaller in diameter than the russian 7.62. the 30.06 is .308 and the russian bore is about .313, so it may not be very accurate.

$600 is way to high, i might pay $50 for it.

just get the original caliber rifle, you can get a remington mosin nagant for much less that $600 and 7.62x54r ammo is cheaper anyway.

R.W.Dale
October 6, 2008, 01:11 AM
allegedly the safety issue stems form the oringinal x54r barrels being cut off and re threaded at the breach end allowing for a them to be rechambered to the smaller diameter 30-06, this resulted in a barrel with a shank short enough that the steel is paper thin where chambers shoulder is because of the bbl's taper .

regardless of how many errors are in that book I wouldn't shoot one for love or money

B.D. Turner
October 6, 2008, 02:27 PM
Do a search. all of this has been covered in the last month.

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