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SureThing
October 5, 2008, 06:24 PM
Let me start by saying I LOVE Glocks. They are the most revolutionary design since the 1911. Glocks have changed the face of Autoloaders, and have raised the standard for what dependablility is.

I have owned a G23, 17, 34, and 19. I got envolved with IDPA a bit, and the platfrom was great, and almost everyone had them.

So you may ask, why did you leave Glocks. Partly has to do with money, I cannot afford many different guns. Then I discovered how the Glock grip angle really messed me up. I started longing for pretty guns, with nice grips, etc.... So I sold them. I now have a Elite Match, STI Spartan, and a CZ 75 Stainless.

Do they shoot better than the Glocks...well a little, are they as durable as a Glock, who knows. But now, when I look at them, they bring a warm smile on my face. When I show them off to people, they want to see them. It is not just another black block of plastic.

Some say I have outgrown Glocks, and that may be the case, but I will still defend them to all the Glock bashers out there. They will always have a special part in my heart. I may go back one day, but as of now, I needed a bit more "pretty" in my life.

Floppy_D
October 5, 2008, 06:28 PM
I bought my dad on a while back. They're dead-nuts reliable, I just don't dig the looks of them, and I'm not a fan of their trigger (I'm spoiled with a P229 trigger).

But yeah, you can't really beat 'em for the money.

Rexster
October 5, 2008, 06:52 PM
I was compelled to stop carrying 1911 pistols for police duty in 2002, and switched to the G22. I also acquired a G27 for backup, a G29 for carry, and a spare duty G22. In November 2004, I tried a SIG P229 with the DAK trigger, and by the next summer, all of the Glocks were gone.

I could never manage to shoot any Glock as well as I could a 1911 or 4" sixgun, and the very first time I shot the DAK SIG, I shot it better than I could a Glock. Probably, this is because the P229 with DAK shoots so much like a K-frame S&W sixgun.

I may, in the future, acquire another 10mm Glock, have its grip frame altered to better fit my hands, and install one of those Lightning Strike triggers, or something similar. I don't hate Glocks; they just are not my cup of tea for duty and carry.

As for Glock being revolutionary, I have to ask, for what purpose was the revolution? Well, OK, I will concede that the Glock is very easy for an armorer to maintain, and it is not difficult to become a Glock armorer, or for an everyday guy to learn as much as an officially-sanctioned armorer.

anythingshiny
October 5, 2008, 08:27 PM
funny enough i have recently "gone back" to glock. I carried one many many years ago...like 89ish.

have tried and carried and shot many a different gun over the years..glock, colt, sig, hk, etc...

so for a class that strongly supports glock, i decided to get a new g19. i do appreciate the absolute utilitarian use of the gun. i still keep my safe full of other flavors...but absence makes the heart grow fonder.

Bill2e
October 5, 2008, 08:42 PM
I have yet to own a GLOCK, but I feel that may end soon.

floydster
October 5, 2008, 08:56 PM
I sold all my Glocks, I now have CZ's and love them.:)

gbran
October 5, 2008, 09:03 PM
I;m a handgun nut and have many. I have one or two for almost every use, but for daily ccw, it's still the Glock.

Dutchman01
October 5, 2008, 09:06 PM
Let me start by saying I LOVE Glocks. They are the most revolutionary design since the 1911. Glocks have changed the face of Autoloaders, and have raised the standard for what dependablility is.

I have owned a G23, 17, 34, and 19. I got envolved with IDPA a bit, and the platfrom was great, and almost everyone had them.

So you may ask, why did you leave Glocks. Partly has to do with money, I cannot afford many different guns. Then I discovered how the Glock grip angle really messed me up. I started longing for pretty guns, with nice grips, etc.... So I sold them. I now have a Elite Match, STI Spartan, and a CZ 75 Stainless.

Do they shoot better than the Glocks...well a little, are they as durable as a Glock, who knows. But now, when I look at them, they bring a warm smile on my face. When I show them off to people, they want to see them. It is not just another black block of plastic.

Some say I have outgrown Glocks, and that may be the case, but I will still defend them to all the Glock bashers out there. They will always have a special part in my heart. I may go back one day, but as of now, I needed a bit more "pretty" in my life.

Ahhh don't start gettin' all "misty" on us. Fact is you're just maturing that's all. The glocks, like all military hardware these days is just a utilitarian piece of equipment made as cheaply as possible that will still get the job done.

Someone once told me the british enfield .303 had lines in it it didn't have to have. They were there because it made the rifle look better. Those old victorian designers knew something we've managed to forget with all our "advancements" in the twentienth century, utilitarianism doesn't inspire the human spirit. That, and what's the point in trying to show off plastic, it just isn't the same. ;)

modifiedbrowning
October 5, 2008, 09:11 PM
They are the most revolutionary design since the 1911
Sillytalk.

jdc1244
October 5, 2008, 09:15 PM
but I will still defend them to all the Glock bashers out there.

The issue has never been Glocks but their owners who maintain any other handgun is inferior.

I’ve never owned a Glock so I’d never say anything against them. My reasons for not owning Glocks are personal and subjective – I prefer steel, a hammer, and a thumb safety. I don’t care for the aesthetics – or lack thereof; there are other interesting guns I’d rather own which are just as reliable and as accurate. Glock is simply not on the list.

Prepster
October 5, 2008, 09:22 PM
I used to have a G19. It ran perfectly, was fairly accurate, it had no problems to speak of. I got rid of it just because I wasn't really using it too much, and thought it would be prudent to get something that fit my needs. I'd still recommend it to anyone looking for that style pistol. However, it was not the greatest thing ever.

Marcus L.
October 5, 2008, 09:24 PM
Lets see, I've owned a G19, G20, G21, G23, G31, and a G37. I sold them all. I've owned many, many different pistol models and as time goes on I have never found the perfect pistol. Just equally good alternatives to one another. Some you value more than others. Right now I'm happy with my Sigs and H&Ks. However, you never know where the winds of change will blow.

SureThing
October 5, 2008, 09:26 PM
I'm digging the CZ platform these days.

Marcus L.
October 5, 2008, 09:39 PM
I'm digging the CZ platform these days.

I went through that phase and 5 CZs as well. Sold those off too.

Dutchman01
October 5, 2008, 09:42 PM
I like the look and feel of cz's. Then again, I'm shooting a browning hipower I've had for several years now. It's a phase I think I won't outgrow this late in life. It's at browning now getting reblued and a new sear put in it.

parisite
October 5, 2008, 09:53 PM
I also feel as though I have matured, been through and outgrown the Glock/polymer phase in my life.
The new wore off quick when I purchased a polymer gun. There just wasn't any "pride of ownership" there for me.

j1979
October 5, 2008, 09:57 PM
I ditched my Glock. Only for another polymer though. I prefer steel but I like to have one nice polymer in my collection. All of my future guns will be steel.

Gator
October 5, 2008, 10:03 PM
I've had a 21, 23 and 19. I still have the 19 because I figure I should have at least one 9mm, and it shoots too reliably and accurately to give up. :)

flyby
October 5, 2008, 10:23 PM
Must be something about their reliability, durability and simplicity that keeps me hangin'-on :)
I'll always keep my 19

tinygnat219
October 5, 2008, 10:29 PM
I figured I wasn't a Gungeek until I had a Glock. So, I traded my 1911 for a Glock 19 to someone on this forum.

It's...ok. That's all. It doesn't get shot much.

msb45
October 5, 2008, 10:32 PM
Still have my 22C and 27. Just moved on to the M1911. It 's a matter of what I shoot best. If the time comes I want the gun I'm most accurate with.

f4t9r
October 5, 2008, 10:37 PM
They are the most revolutionary design since the 1911

IM not going to be able to go to work on Monday. I just got very sick.
Now I have to clean up my keyboard !!!!

kcshooter
October 5, 2008, 10:38 PM
Then I discovered how the Glock grip angle really messed me up. Bingo, that's what caused me to get rid of mine. I can adjust to triggers, I don't care too much about ugly, but having to break my wrist to get the sights aligned pretty much kills it for me. I enjoy Sigs, sixguns, lots of other stuff, but the 1911 has won me over.

That said, I'm looking for a Glock in either 9mm or .45acp now, a beat up trade in or something and am going to use acra-glas to reshape the grip into mimicking the grip angle of a 1911. If I pull that off well enough, I may turn back into a Glock owner.


They are the most revolutionary design since the 1911You'd be surprised to learn how similar the function of these two are to each other. I'd bet good money Gaston was a 1911 fan.

SureThing
October 5, 2008, 11:40 PM
You'd be surprised to learn how similar the function of these two are to each other. I'd bet good money Gaston was a 1911 fan.


I totally agree with this. The JMB designs are the basis of most autos today.

Also, I was different, I started on Glocks, then realized nothing else pointed right for me. I kinda got pissed about it when I realized I had gotten used to a odd grip angle.

foghornl
October 7, 2008, 09:22 AM
I don't own any of Gaston's offerings, but I have shot a few of them. They just don't seem to "fit" my hands well.

Nothign wrong with Glocks...they are a good solid reliable design...just not for me. Give me one of JMB's most famous pistol every time.

Ghost Walker
October 7, 2008, 10:38 AM
So you may ask, why did you leave Glocks. Partly has to do with money, I cannot afford many different guns. Then I discovered how the Glock grip angle really messed me up. I started longing for pretty guns, with nice grips, etc.... So I sold them. I now have a Elite Match, STI Spartan, and a CZ 75 Stainless. ....

Suggest you seek professional counseling! :p








What's a Spartan CZ 75, anyway? ;)

polizei36
October 7, 2008, 10:50 AM
Very simple to use guns. I went away from Glocks for awhile. Came back....went away again and now own another Glock. LOL.

stevereno1
October 7, 2008, 09:45 PM
Colts and kimbers are what you show to your friends, Glocks are what you show to your enemies.

orionengnr
October 7, 2008, 10:28 PM
Yep, another ex-Glocker here.
Had a G-23 for over 10 years, and a G-19 for several years.

I instituted a policy about two years back--if I don't carry it or shoot it regularly, it's gone.

The Glocks were too fat to carry and I have others I shoot better, so they were relegated to safe queen status.

Now they are in someone else's safe.

When Prez Barack outlaws anything that accepts a 10-round mag a year from a year from now, I'll probably regret selling them, but only because they'll double in value. :rolleyes:

Tacbandit
October 7, 2008, 10:43 PM
Quote:
"Colts and kimbers are what you show to your friends, Glocks are what you show to your enemies."





stevereno1,.......Well said, my friend..."Pretty" guns are just that...I'll take a glock over anything else for dependability, any day...I own some of those more expensive guns...but if that's the only reason we have them is to show them off...we need to rethink some things...:neener:

Barker45
October 7, 2008, 11:13 PM
I too saw the light and am now Glock free! They may be good guns but have no souls. I'll stick to my CZs, SIGs, 1911s, and old S&W revolvers.

Hoppy590
October 7, 2008, 11:31 PM
They are the most revolutionary design since the 1911.

ehhh right...

Tom Krein
October 8, 2008, 12:05 AM
I actually went the other way! I used to carry 1911's, CZ-75's, H&K P7's, Kahrs, and many different wheel guns for CCW.

Not anymore. While I feel the Glocks are not nice to look at they are all about function! I CCW a Glock of one kind or another every day! Usually my Glock 20.

I recently sent my Glock 20 and 21 off to have the grip reduced and the angle changed to be more similar to the grip angle of a 1911 as that is what I learned on and am used to. Should be even better.

BTW good choices on your guns. I still have my wheel guns and 1911's just don't rely on the for EDC.

Tom

ultramag44
October 8, 2008, 12:15 AM
SureThing said: So you may ask, why did you leave Glocks. Partly has to do with money, I cannot afford many different guns. Then I discovered how the Glock grip angle really messed me up. I started longing for pretty guns, with nice grips, etc.... So I sold them. I now have a Elite Match, STI Spartan, and a CZ 75 Stainless.


I went to a gun show last weekend. on both days there were guys walking around trying to unload Glocks, trying to unload lots of Glocks!

kcshooter
October 8, 2008, 12:17 AM
Quote:
"Colts and kimbers are what you show to your friends, Glocks are what you show to your enemies."





stevereno1,.......Well said, my friend..."Pretty" guns are just that...I'll take a glock over anything else for dependability, any day...I own some of those more expensive guns...but if that's the only reason we have them is to show them off...we need to rethink some things.Please.
My Colts and Kimber are completely problem free and totally reliable. Why wouldn't I want to carry something that not only looks good but functions perfectly? So your Glock works. Big deal. That's what all guns are supposed to do.

MacTech
October 8, 2008, 12:33 AM
I used to be a Glock basher, couldn't understand how anyone could like "Tactical Tupperware" polymer guns, they were blocky, unstylish, and "dangerous" due to the lack of a manual safety....

I've owned and sold a variety of handguns, a Ruger Mark II, Taurus 689, Ruger GP-100, Taurus PT-99AF, all have been used, enjoyed, and sold when I got bored with them, Glock wasn't on my radar until recently, when I purchased a 21

I'm still amazed at it's utter reliability, no matter what you throw at it, if you pull the trigger, it goes *bang*, it's been 100% reliable, eats whatever I feed it, and comes back asking for more, it has the softest, most manageable recoil of any of my guns, and is an absolute dream to shoot, not to mention impressively accurate....

It's a gun I can count on to work when I need it, no matter what, flawless reliability....

that said, it's got no "soul" or "personality", a Glock is an appliance, nothing more, it does what it's designed to do with no fuss, simple, efficient, and reliable, anything that does not increase reliability or functionality is irrelavent, it's a bullet launcher, nothing more, it doesn't pretend to be, it's the distillation of a gun as a simple tool, it's absolutely generic and mundane, no personality, no character, no "soul"

and there's nothing wrong with that

now, my Tanfoglio Witness, OTOH, has it's own little quirks, it's got bullets it likes, ones it dislikes, it's own little personality, it's looks are a hybridization of a 1911, a BHP, and a little Beretta mixed in, it loves ball ammo, and is noncommital on HP, sure, it'll eat them, but it'd be happier with ball ammo

the Witness is more stylish than the G21, and has that wonderfully comfy grip that feels like it was molded to fit my hand, and has a slightly higher round capacity, but it's a little fussier.....

I like 'em both, they both have their uses, as Sal Glesser of Spyderco is noted for saying, they're "all good, just different", there's room in my collection for both

dasmi
October 8, 2008, 12:39 AM
Actually, I've come back to Glocks. My life is better now.

Smaug
October 8, 2008, 01:10 AM
I had a Glock 34. I had wanted one (a 17) for my whole childhood. Finally, I was old enough and had enough money. I bought it.

I shot the hell out of it for a month or three. It shot OK and was reliable. But like you said, when not actually shooting, it was just boring. I'm an engineer, shame on me for feeling this way?

But I finally gave in and sold it. Even my Ruger P90 had more charm.

Instead of the Glock, I now have a Bersa 380 and a Ruger SP-101.

I'm also with you on the other issue. Although I have come to the conclusion that they're not for me, I can sure appreciate their strengths.

I may have another one some day. But it may be a while, as there are so many other guns out there with more svelte shapes to them.

We just bought a Daly Hi Power for my wife. I just love this gun too. So slim & easy to shoot well.

loop
October 8, 2008, 05:01 AM
I used to have a dozen Glocks. Now I don't have any. It isn't because I set out to rid myself of Glocks, but because I had something that worked better in each format than the Glock.

I have 1911s, CZs, Tanfoglios, Kahrs, Walthers, SIGs and Makarovs that all fit the bill better than any Glock. The Kahr has so much smoother a trigger pull than the Glock it is ridiculous. It may be long, but it is smooth and breaks when you expect it to break.

The 1911s are just so much more accurate and fit so much better there is no contest.

The CZs/Tanfoglios fit my hand so much better and as per accuracy - Glocks are not even in the same ballpark.

In terms of reliability, every auto I own is as reliable as a Glock. The 1911 built its reputation on reliability.

I just don't see any advantage to carrying a Glock. They are no more reliable than a number of other types. They are not as accurate as many other types. They offer no significant weight advantage over many other guns. What makes them so great?

I shoot IDPA twice a month (year around). I've seen four pistols become unusable this year. Two were Springfield Armory 1911s (a brand I am not fond of) and two Glocks become unserviceable. They were the only ones that had to be brought off the firing line. I'm the RO. I know which ones were DQ'd.

I simply have no use for a Glock. There is something else out there that will do the same job better. I'll admit most of them cost more, but that isn't the question. For the most part they're better than a Ruger, but that isn't saying much.

RX-178
October 8, 2008, 06:44 AM
I purchased a Glock 17L recently, for a variety of reasons.

First of all, at the time my only 9mm pistol was a Kel-Tec PF-9. Not something you'd feed ammo regularly at the range.

Second, I had (and still have) a Kel-Tec Sub2000 in 9mm, and had a supply of 17 and 33rd Glock mags already as a result.

Third, it still had to be the relatively uncommon 17L if I was going to justify it to my gun-collector side.

I'm probably going to get a CCF race frame for it soon. Glock grip angles always bothered me a little.

I /may/ get a Glock 21SF in the future, but then again, I might not.

crebralfix
October 8, 2008, 11:55 AM
1) If the grip angle on any handgun "messes you up", you need to practice *correctly* more frequently.

2) If you think small groups are the object, then you're playing a game called target shooting. This is just fine, but there are better guns for the sport. However, Glocks are weapons intended for fighting; owning such implies that.

If you're doing IDPA, which requires combat shooting, then see #1.

3) If you think a weapon "has a soul" or "needs a soul"...get a grip. It's a GUN. It is not a person and certainly is not a religious icon. If your weapon talks to you, you need to go to the hospital.

It's a tool. That's it.


If I'm in a gun fight and you run up with your (insert opposing fanboy gun brand here), I'm not going to argue with you...I'm only concerned with your hits on bad guys.

4) If you're buying guns because "they look neat" or "are stylish", then you're playing around.

Again, this is just fine so long as it's kept in the context and not passed off as some sort of fighting tool. I have guns that are designated "fun" only...and I don't carry them. Fun is good; just keep it in perspective.

A good, used fighting 1911 or Glock just isn't going to look great. If it's pristine, then you're not really using it hard in training. I would question such a person's proficiency in combat handgun skills (it's more than just shooting).

5) If you're worried about the finish: it's not a fighting gun. If you want to collect a weapon...go for it...keep that finish pristine. It's important for the financial and historical value of the weapon. But, please don't pretend it's a fighting tool.

Again, all is well...some folks take their guns out only on the weekend.

possum
October 8, 2008, 01:18 PM
i had a 19 with xs sights, and i liked it, but there is no gun that i shoot better than my xd's therefore i am an xd guy and will continue to stay such until i find that the xd is not suitable for me and my needs, so far that hasn't happened yet.

PzGren
October 8, 2008, 01:18 PM
I have quite a few Glocks and shot a lot of ammo through them. Lately I am more into accuracy than into speed and dug out my old S&W M14-2 and acquired a Korth and a SIG P210-4.

That does not mean that I think less highly of the Glocks and they are far from retired.

stevereno1
October 8, 2008, 04:15 PM
I actually think that the cz line of pistols are the ugliest that I have ever seen. 1911's are beautiful, and Glocks remind me of a muscle car, like a gto judge, or a chevelle. Big, bulky, powerful, and all business. bTW, I target shoot with my kimber classic custom pretty regularly, i keep her clean, and take pride in her, but she sleeps in the safe, next to my colt Anaconda, and several of my other "fun" guns. My G-27however, rests on top of the safe waiting while I sleep, and comes with me almost everywhere I go

WoofersInc
October 8, 2008, 04:55 PM
For a little while I avoided Glocks. Then I figured if I was going to call myself a gun collector I needed to have some Glocks in the mix. I bought a 17 Longslide, a 24 Longslide, and a 31. About then I shot my first XD and decided that I liked those better and haven't bought anymore Glocks. Still have those 3 in my safe though. And I have since moved on to 1911's which is where I am currently stuck at. :D

ckone
October 8, 2008, 08:21 PM
sounds like you might want to look at the post-recall Ruger SR9 (don't be put off by the recall, they just ended up making it better...), you should handle one and fire one if you can... in my opinion it's got all of the great qualities of my Glock's intact (lightness, reliability), yet it feels and points right and doesn't look like a brick.
it's slimmer than a 1911, but holds 17+1, and even has a honest to goodness thumb safety (that you don't have to use if you don't want to since the trigger has a strangely almost lawsuit-worthy glock-like trigger, except the trigger action is far and away better in every way than any Glock i've ever fired). in fact, all the controls are the same layout as an 1911, except it comes ambi stock. i own a G17 and a G19 that will be going away soon due to it's performance rendering them unexpectedly obsolete, and it's been more reliable and as good or better in accuracy than my Kimber or Sig 226. for around $400 you might want to check it out, might end up as surprised as i've been. it's a new gun so the aftermarket is just starting to support it, but it's pretty much right straight out of the box.
i posted a quick range report on it earlier today...

here's the link:
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?p=4989276#post4989276

kcshooter
October 8, 2008, 08:23 PM
1) If the grip angle on any handgun "messes you up", you need to practice *correctly* more frequently.Wrong, genius. There is a significant difference between the grip angle of a Glock and my Sigs, Cz, and 1911s, along with many others. Having to break your wrist on a "fighting gun" means it doesn't point naturally. All my other guns do. Duh.

At 20,000 rounds a year, it ain't a matter of practice.


(BTW: Some people find the Glock points more naturally and that works for them. Nothing wrong with that either.)

SureThing
October 8, 2008, 09:02 PM
It is not easy for me to go back and forth. Actually the Glock points natually for me now, but all others don't. When IDPAing, you don't so much aim, but point and shoot.

outerlimit
October 8, 2008, 09:41 PM
I hate the Block trigger and their overall blocky appearance. I'm not a Glock fan at all. In fact I really do not like them in general. However..

But there is something to be said for

1. Their reliability and quality at this price point.
2. A plastic frame when it is super cold outside.
3. A 15+1rd 10mm auto with night sights. There really is no competition to the Block 20 that I can think of.

VegasOPM
October 8, 2008, 11:18 PM
Yet again, you have to be for or against Glocks?!? :confused: They are a machine for launching projectiles, designed and built by humans for humans- thus they are fallible.

I like them because they work for me. I like 1911's, Beretta 92's and S&W revolvers too. I have found that as long as sight picture and trigger press are correct, the grip angle and trigger difference between my 1911 and Glocks is of no consequence to accuracy. I am a competitive shooter, as well as a CCW holder and I figure that if I can't hit what I'm aiming at- it is my failing, not the weapon's.

Tacbandit
October 9, 2008, 04:49 PM
It's amazing to watch the minds of the "Haters"...They have to bash something if they don't like it...So you don't like the GLOCK...DON'T BUY ONE!!! Nobody is trying to make you buy one...Nobody is bashing your pretty gun...I respect your desire to buy and carry your pretty gun, because it's "pretty"...go for it...I have some of your same guns, and yes, most other guns are "prettier"...I personally don't carry a particular gun because I think a BG will be impressed with it's looks if I have to use it... I have a variety to choose from...pretty and ugly(GLOCK)...I carry a Glock because of it's undeniable level of unequaled dependability...You can say whatever you want to make yourself feel good about your choice, but carrying a gun based mainly on it's asthetics (looks) is foolish...And thinking that there is a gun out there with a better track record overall for dependability...a figment of your imagination.
Here's to pretty guns...:)
Here's to carrying a gun because it's pretty...:barf:

Tacbandit
October 9, 2008, 05:27 PM
kcshooter
Quote:
"Please. My Colts and Kimber are completely problem free and totally reliable. Why wouldn't I want to carry something that not only looks good but functions perfectly? So your Glock works. Big deal. That's what all guns are supposed to do.


So your Colts and Kimbers are completely problem free and totally reliable...
Isn't that what all guns are supposed to be...??? Hmmm...:confused:

Go with what what works for you, but don't bash someboby else because they choose to do differently than what you do...We're supposed to be in this together...Lets be real...

kcshooter
October 9, 2008, 08:05 PM
So your Colts and Kimbers are completely problem free and totally reliable...
Isn't that what all guns are supposed to be...??? Hmmm...

Go with what what works for you, but don't bash someboby else because they choose to do differently than what you do...We're supposed to be in this together...Lets be real...Yes, let's be.

You skipped reading the quote preceeding the paragraph of mine you cut n pasted. I was responding to someone who said they carry a Glock OVER the Colt and Kimber for the reliability of a Glock. My point was that if your gun (whether it's a Glock, 1911, or other) is unreliable, it's broke.

Try to keep up.

Tacbandit
October 10, 2008, 01:17 AM
kcshooter quote:
"You skipped reading the quote preceeding the paragraph of mine you cut n pasted. I was responding to someone who said they carry a Glock OVER the Colt and Kimber for the reliability of a Glock. My point was that if your gun (whether it's a Glock, 1911, or other) is unreliable, it's broke.
Try to keep up.


No, I read it all...I realize what you were referring to, which is why I responded. We all got what you were trying to say...nice try...and keep up...? I'd say we're a little ahead of you...No need to bicker, though...Like I also said in that post, we're in this together...We can agree to disagree, that's cool...:)

rojocorsa
October 10, 2008, 01:35 AM
Compared to shooting a Glock (22) for the first time, I was more impressed the first time a shot a 1911 (Kimber Custom II).

I for some reason do like the Glock's sights, I like that little white outline on the rear sights.

Ben86
October 10, 2008, 02:37 AM
I'm starting to notice that I like a positive arch in the handle that goes towards my palm, instead of one like the Glock that arches away from my palm for about half the handle length.

I also like to buy American. So I'm looking at XDs.

Tacbandit
October 10, 2008, 11:12 AM
Quote:
"I went to a gun show last weekend. on both days there were guys walking around trying to unload Glocks, trying to unload lots of Glocks!"




So...how many did you get...???
Wow...last time I went, there were guys walking around trying to unload guns, lots of guns, of all kinds...You must have found that clearance sale that all of us GLOCK lovers have dreamed of...If I find it, I'm buying two...of each model.:eek:

tschmittel
October 10, 2008, 03:02 PM
"I also like to buy American. So I'm looking at XDs"



Better look elsewhere, last xd I looked at had a big 'ol made in CROATIA on it.

mljdeckard
October 10, 2008, 03:27 PM
I carried a Glock 22 for years, but I decided that I really like a 1911 better. I still steer beginners toward a glock.

kcshooter
October 10, 2008, 09:29 PM
We can agree to disagree, that's coolI'm not sure what we are even disagreeing about!? All I said was all guns should work, and a Glock is no more or less reliable than my 1911s. Yes, I've owned one. No, I didn't like it. No, I won't buy another.

You decided to jump in and gripe at me for bashing a Glock when I did no such thing. You're obviously one of "those" Glock guys, so why are you even involved in a thread about someone leaving Glock other than to spread the word about how great they are?

So some people don't like your favorite guns. So what? Big deal. Grow up.

Again, as I said before, try to keep up.

Newton
October 10, 2008, 10:57 PM
All I know is that the top firearms training academies all state that the only platform that can keep up with a Glock in combat style shooting scores is a 1911, and they do not even come close in terms of reliability.

If you shoot for fun, there are lots of better options - pretty things with cocobolo grips and tuned triggers.

But if you want a reliable and effective combat handgun, you need a Glock.

mgregg85
October 10, 2008, 11:39 PM
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denfoote
October 11, 2008, 12:15 AM
We are Glock.
Resistance is futile.
Your attempt at individuality is illogical.
You will be returned to the collective and reassimilated.

Ben86
October 11, 2008, 02:12 AM
"Better look elsewhere, last xd I looked at had a big 'ol made in CROATIA on it."

Bummer. How about S&W M&Ps?

Tacbandit
October 12, 2008, 02:10 AM
kcshooter quote:
"You decided to jump in and gripe at me for bashing a Glock when I did no such thing. You're obviously one of "those" Glock guys, so why are you even involved in a thread about someone leaving Glock other than to spread the word about how great they are?




Sorry, kc.....I refuse to bow to you, but I will yield...OK...you win.
Sorry to upset you...I'll try to keep up.....:o

Ky Larry
October 12, 2008, 10:44 AM
To me, the difference between a 1911-type pistol and a Glock is like the difference between a Porshe and a Ferrari. Both will get you where you're going, just with a different style.

george29
October 12, 2008, 02:55 PM
Had a G17, too big for CCW. Yesterday, tried a G19, grip was all wrong for me (finger grooves). Held a 4" GP100 and was sold (except for lack of funds). I need to like how the gun looks and feels before I can shoot it comfortably. My one and only duty 9mm was an FN MKIII which is what fits me the best in 9mm.

Weedmonk
October 15, 2008, 08:43 PM
I have quite a few handguns - but, only one of them is a Glock. Specifically, it is a G26 9mm subcompact with Meprolite night sights. I believe it is one of the best firearms for concealed carry self defense and it has become my EDC. I am very happy with the G26 but have no intentions of buying more Glocks. As a matter of fact, my two most recent handgun acquisitions are 1911s.

GRR
October 15, 2008, 09:55 PM
I went through pretty much all the other simi autos before I tried Glocks. I've owned Smiths, Brownings, Berettas, Sigs, HK's, XD's, and a few others. Now all I've got is 10 Glocks. and a few 1911's. Oh, and several revolvers. But mostly Glocks.