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Johnnycome October 7, 2008, 07:13 PM http://evergreen-rentals.com/images/socketset.jpg
IMO these could make good projectiles either for smashing stuff to create attention or hitting an overweight thug in the chest.
Im talking about the little round pieces.
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CWL October 7, 2008, 07:56 PM So you plan on walking around with these in your pockets?
Have you ever heard of anyone being successfully stopped after being hit by a thrown socket? I'm not convinced in a 'one shot stop'.
I don't think it is practical nor as effective as you may think. Maybe if you held a large socket in each hand as a weight -but then you you will have "intent" issues to deal with in the eyes of the law.
hso October 7, 2008, 09:21 PM It is great that you're thinking out of the box and looking for the everyday to serve in a SD role, but that's not a practical idea unless you happen to already have them out.
A long breaker bar carried in the car with a long lug nut socket head makes a handy easily explained multipurpose tool.
A little socket set isn't something you can carry around and isn't as useful as the breaker bar in the car.
TimboKhan October 8, 2008, 12:44 AM Though not a thug I am overweight, and I am not sure how this would do anything but enrage me. I mean, yeah, it would hurt, but it's hardly going to stop me. Additionally, I am probably not going to stand there and let you throw stuff into my chest. I will move, because a throw is pretty easy to step into. Basically, it's just like taking a baseball from a pitcher.
I am with Hso on this one. Way to think creatively, but ultimately not particularly practical or effective.
yeti October 8, 2008, 01:00 AM it does kind of give new meaning to 'screw 'em'. Or might that be considerer ratcheting things up a notch?
plumberroy October 8, 2008, 06:19 AM I have a 1/2 drive s-k ratchet I bet I could get your attention with:evil:
Roy
Timthinker October 8, 2008, 07:10 AM Ironically, I was thinking about this very topic a few days ago. I own both a breaker bar and a large click-type torque wrench, both of which could serve as useful impact weapons. Now, I am not advocating these as CCW weapons, but they are handy things to have in one's dwelling or automobile. The idea of using tools as improvised self-defense weapons is something that everyone should consider these days.
Timthinker
TimboKhan October 8, 2008, 08:45 PM I agree that the wrench itself would be of far more use than throwing the sockets in a SD situation.
I also happen to agree that there are many tools that make fine weapons. I do not happen to count whipping sockets at someone as one of them, but that doesn't mean that I discount tools ad nauseum. Hammers, crowbars, big wrenches, screwdrivers, and even keyhole saws would make fine weapons, among other choices.
wuluf October 8, 2008, 11:00 PM it might be more effective if you start with sockets larger than 9mm...:neener:
R. Deckard October 8, 2008, 11:26 PM How is "smashing stuff to create attention" a defensive tactic? Maybe to break a window or something so other people will come running?
auschip October 9, 2008, 12:08 AM Maybe to break a window or something so other people will come running?
I'm thinking that would be the wrong type of attention to bring.
Pax Jordana October 9, 2008, 06:50 PM I don't think they'd do a lot of damage. But if you threw them at someone's face, even the biggest guy is gonna take a second to dodge it. Human instinct.
You could use that time to close the distance, find a better weapon or get a head start on him. If he's overweight, you should be able to beat him in a dead sprint.
I actually saw this once, at a frat party, where one brother was an amateur magician and happened to have a deck of cards in his hand when some bad things almost happened. The disgruntled drunk didn't slow down much for the cards flying in his face, but it gave the fist behind them enough time to get rolling. Slam bang, abracadabra and out to the curb he went. Very efficient, this brother was.
By and large, THR's older, wiser types (those too high-mileage, old or infirm to sprint) generally seem to recommend more substantial weapons.
dieselmech October 9, 2008, 08:04 PM As the screen name says Im a Diesel Tech. I work on mostly powerstroke's. I have much bigger tools to weild then that. My rachet that I use to yeild head bolts is 3/4" drive and 40" long and over an 1" in diameter. the thing is about 30 lbs in weight. I just need to drop it on your toe
hso October 9, 2008, 10:18 PM If you just happened to be working on your car and needed to defend yourself you might toss the sockets at the BG's face and follow through with the ratchet in your hand as a fist load/kubaton. Other than a distraction to allow a follow on attack I think you'd be better off looking for something else.
rayman October 11, 2008, 06:41 PM Take one of your socks off (if you're wearing socks), drop the largest one in, and go to work on that individual. They may come away lumped up.
Friendly, Don't Fire! October 11, 2008, 07:09 PM Put those pieces into a wrist rocket (fancy slingshot) and you could seriously injure or kill!
Remember David & Goliath, and David picked up three small stones from the brook and slew Goliath! Probably right smack between the eyes. David then took Goliath's mighty sword and beheaded him. We're talking a young kid against a GIANT wearing his armor!:scrutiny:
TimboKhan October 11, 2008, 08:42 PM Take one of your socks off (if you're wearing socks), drop the largest one in, and go to work on that individual.
While I have no doubt that this would be effective and painful, if you are in a position where throwing something to make noise to draw attention to yourself is necessary, I doubt your going to have time to sit down and take off your shoe, then your sock, then put the socket in the sock, then get up, then swing it around.
If you have that much time, then there is no reason that you shouldn't be running, frankly.
JShirley October 11, 2008, 08:50 PM We're talking a young kid against a GIANT wearing his armor!
That's the popular conception, but not actually true. David was already the armor-bearer for the king at that point.
Friendly, Don't Fire! October 11, 2008, 08:56 PM http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goliath
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ef/David-goliath28.jpg/477px-David-goliath28.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goliath
snow October 11, 2008, 09:22 PM you would do better to carry a wrench, large 1/2 or 3/4 breaker bar for socket set, screwdriver and don't forget the large maglight. These are all inconspicuous tools that can be improvised weapons. I work part time at a halfway house and the only time I have never seen them as an effective SD tool. I have seen them used as an offensive tool, with a few in a sock or sheet. These are jail house weapons and are only effective when quartered up in a cell or on the yard during a riotmost of which the inmates now when its going to go down so they all who are going to be involved usually have their weapons available and ready. Other tools would serve you better for random encounters in which you need to defend yourself.
Cannonball888 October 11, 2008, 09:35 PM socket to 'em.
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