Enfield No1 Mr IV


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kestak
October 8, 2008, 12:45 PM
Greetings,

I just received a BSA Enfield Mo 1 Mk IV from Classic arms and the buttplate is steel and not brass. Was it common? Also, any place I can buy an original brass buttplate and spike bayonnet for a N1 MK IV?

Thank you

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ArmedBear
October 8, 2008, 12:49 PM
Is there a No 1 Mk IV?

I thought some of the most common ones are the No 4 Mk I WW II rifles.

(I'm not an Enfield expert, but I have a couple.)

My No 1 Mk III has a brass buttplate, but the No 4 Mk I (1943) I have has steel.

kestak
October 8, 2008, 12:51 PM
Greetings,


Oups!!!! No1 Mk 4. Sorry, I reversed the numbers.

Thank you

Ian Sean
October 8, 2008, 05:59 PM
Most of the MK-4's I have seen have the steel butt-plate, I while refinishing mine, dressed it up with a brass one from Numrich.

Couldn't help myself, I like shiny things.

This is what I got rid of:

http://byfiles.storage.live.com/y1pa9GFCyAHmjh-I1_z4ICNQc-j3qZgRVH_CiCQtCW5_QwPIABdZDR2CUYIWV0_ba2K

This is what I put on from Numrich:

http://byfiles.storage.live.com/y1p9YTDpckH8H2q9iVBDYfPvlyLCY497xCP4URx82OT-tLUYcwdZPWl8NmRJiZTfcj-

Finished product....Yes I parkerized it!

http://byfiles.storage.live.com/y1pwezm_aQU5W7CA11ib5IySlTU7zvEH-_jkcFlmo_fS03-ry6KJOlAPbN8brO7m0D0

1KPerDay
October 8, 2008, 06:03 PM
Very nice.

Vaarok
October 8, 2008, 06:04 PM
A SMLE No.1 Mk IV is a .22 caliber training rifle based on the SMLE No. 1 Mk III* with a .22 barrel and boltface fitted. Very pricey.

As for your buttplate question, it doesn't really matter, they used whatever they had.

DougW
October 8, 2008, 10:28 PM
Kestak, are you talking about a #4mk1?

The normal butt plates were either brass or Zamak, a sort of metal that looks like aluminum. Long Branch in Canada made actual steel butt plates that were oil blackened. I have one loose plate, but all the rifles have either brass or Zamak. Steel is fairly unusual.

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p118/MDWINK/IMG_0129.jpg

The #1mkIII's have brass, and I think the #4 does also, but it is a bit more weathered.

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p118/MDWINK/6Enfields006.jpg

These 6 all have Zamak. All were 1943. 4-Maltby's, 1 BSA, 1 Fazakerly.

kestak
October 9, 2008, 06:34 AM
Greetings,

Thank you very much for the picts and explanations.
Yes, the plate is Zamak. I took a look at it and it doe snot have the steel texture.

Thank you

offthepaper
October 9, 2008, 12:45 PM
kestak

How did the overall condition of the rifle appear. I've been thinking of ordering one myself. Can you post pics?

kestak
October 9, 2008, 12:52 PM
Greetings,

I bought the rifle of the day at classicarms.us.
The butt stock is like new. The other wood is excellent (only 3-4 small dings).
The metal had some surface rust and the bluing was about 70%.

I am cleaning it and as soon as I am done, I'll post a picture.

Thank you

kestak
October 11, 2008, 07:31 AM
Greetings,

As promised, here are the picts of the Enfield I got. I posted al so the picts of the 2 other rifles I received this week.

Here are the 3 rifles I got this week. The Enfield is from Classicarms rifle of the day and the 2 others are from Samco:
- Enfield No Mr IV BSA
- Mauser 24/47 bent bolt
- K31 tiger stripes
- Mauser bayonnets

The marks on the Mauser and K31 are cosmoline. The mause stock is with no mark at all and the K31 just has 2-3 very minor dings. Both bores are like new.

The Enfield buttsotck is prefect (like new). The bore shows just a very little usage.

http://i445.photobucket.com/albums/qq177/kestak/P1040059.jpg
http://i445.photobucket.com/albums/qq177/kestak/P1040060.jpg
http://i445.photobucket.com/albums/qq177/kestak/P1040061.jpg
http://i445.photobucket.com/albums/qq177/kestak/P1040068.jpg
http://i445.photobucket.com/albums/qq177/kestak/P1040067.jpg
http://i445.photobucket.com/albums/qq177/kestak/P1040066.jpg
http://i445.photobucket.com/albums/qq177/kestak/P1040065.jpg
http://i445.photobucket.com/albums/qq177/kestak/P1040064.jpg
http://i445.photobucket.com/albums/qq177/kestak/P1040063.jpg

Thank you

Starship1st
October 11, 2008, 07:59 AM
She cleans up nice. That is one good-looking rifle. :cool:

DougW
October 11, 2008, 11:53 PM
Nice rifle. Looks like the 6 I bought, being a 1943 BSA/Fazakerly/Maltby. I would bet your rifle is a BSA, but I can't tell by the pics too well. The "billboard" serial number Century put on the side of the reciever is the give away. Your rifle went through India, since it has the Ishapore Screw forward of the magazine. Nice wood too!

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