[Davandron]

For a new shooter looking at clays, which would be probably be better?

1.) A Winchester Model 50 using a 30 inch ventilated with a modified choke and fiber optic dot
2.) A Remington 870 Wingmaster using a 30 inch ventilated with a modified choke and "figure eight" sight beads.

I don't have any extra barrels for either, and they pre-date screw in chokes being common. Neither one has been fitted yet, nor does one seem to feel / fit a lot better than the other.

Thanks in advance to everyone for your thoughts!

[dispatch55126]

Who is it for? I'm of the belief that you should start out on the "harder" gun. The best gun I ever learned on was a single shot .22LR. Every time you pulled the trigger, you would have to load a new round in the chamber and reset the safety. Point it, I had to rebuild my position every time.

If you are trying to get someone in the sport but they don't have the patience, go with the semi. If you are trying to teach the true fundamentals, use the pump. They'll have to reposition every time and soon they will get "the feel".

[ice monkey]

Well lets see. Both have 30” barrels, and both have the same choke so … if they really do feel the same, go with the semi as it is a bit lighter on recoil. Besides, most people do better on clays with semis over pumps. More hits = more fun :).

[Acera]

Go with the semi!

Don't handicap yourself when you first get into the sport. I don't know the fascination with the pump guns, it is not a skill you must have, it is just a cheaper alternative that a lot of people grew up on. On the clays range, you will be able to improve quicker with a good auto loader, or a O/U if you can afford one of those. You will probably be able to get a set of screw in chokes for the Model 50 later if you desire, a lot of companies do the conversions.

[stiletto raggio]

Semi. Less recoil, faster follow-ups.