I know BSA's suck but...


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cbrgator
October 9, 2008, 01:22 AM
What do you guys think of one on a Savage Mark II 22lr. The rifle came with a 4x15 that holds zero perfectly, but 15mm is so damn small. My Stevens 200 came with the piece-o-crap BSA (wouldn't go out and just buy one) and I have since replaced it with a Nikon Buckmasters. So now I have a 4x15 on the Mark II and a BSA 3-9x40 on a shelf. Should I mount the BSA or leave as is? I'd like to think the BSA isn'y SO crappy that it cant handle 22lr.

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ColinthePilot
October 9, 2008, 01:25 AM
I have a little BSA rimfire scope on my Stevens 300 (just like your Mark II except no accutrigger) and it works pretty well for me out to about 50 yds

cbrgator
October 9, 2008, 01:28 AM
well this BSA wasn't designed for rimfire, not sure if that matters. It came mounted on my 30-06.

Golden Hound
October 9, 2008, 01:29 AM
Who says BSA's suck?

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Coal Dragger
October 9, 2008, 01:42 AM
Well BSA scopes suck, at least as optical instruments.

Seeing as how they suck, and old BSA motorcycles leak oil all over the garage floor..... if you could combine the sucking power of BSA scopes.....with the leaking power of a BSA motorbike.... you could have a clean garage floor!

cbrgator
October 9, 2008, 01:45 AM
Not helping... but its funny.

Coal Dragger
October 9, 2008, 02:01 AM
Your cheapo BSA will most likely be just fine on your .22LR and will also most likely be an improvement over the current glass.

xringonly
October 9, 2008, 06:34 AM
I have shot almost exclusively Leupold for years. However after purchasing Kimber .22 I didnt have enough pennies for the scope I wanted. Purchased BSA platinum 24x, optics are actually pretty decent but tracking sucks. Once you get it sighted in if you can leave it alone you may be alright. I dont have that luxury with having to shoot 5 or 6 different targets, adjusting constantly.
Carl

stubbicatt
October 9, 2008, 07:16 AM
Yep. I wish I had never sold my A10.

The optics aren't all that great tho.

CajunBass
October 9, 2008, 07:26 AM
Well the only BSA scope I have any experience at all with is a cheap little 3x7x20 "22 scope" I've got on an old Stevens 46 bolt action 22. I've had it on a couple of other rifles too, and it works like a champ. I didn't expect too much for 16? 17 bucks, but it's done ok.

I do have a BSA red dot on a 22/45 that works fine too. It's a tad heavy, at least compared to other red dots, but it only costs about $30.00. It does drain batteries if I leave them in, so I just take them out when I'm not using it.

JonB
October 9, 2008, 10:33 AM
I put a BSA Sweet 22 on my Marlin 60 and have to say it works like a champ. I think it cost me like 65-70 bucks a few years ago, but I haven't had a problem with it. I can't see spending the cash for a Leupold for a .22

It's a 3x9 power, which I typically leave on about 4 or 5 for shooting at gophers, soda cans, etc.

KI.W.
October 9, 2008, 11:13 AM
I have had BSA 2x fixed pistol scope on my T/C Contender 9mm Luger barrel for subsonic loads only. It takes thre shots, and the scope was kaputt. :uhoh: :mad: :uhoh:

kludge
October 9, 2008, 11:53 AM
I have a BSA Target Platimun on my Mark II BV. It's as good a scope as I'll ever need on it.

gregj
October 9, 2008, 12:55 PM
I've got one of those cheap BSA dots from Wally World on my 10/22, and seems to work quite well.

sarduy
October 9, 2008, 01:16 PM
hey bro, you should be ok, if it was mounted on a 30-06 it's more than enough for a 22lr.


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Asherdan
October 9, 2008, 01:50 PM
I've got a BSA 1" tube 4x32mm blister pack 'Rifle Scope' from Wally's on my CZ452 Trainer right now. I rate it as 'good enough, sorta' for punching paper out to 100 yards and chasing bunnies.

Upside: Nice field of view, lenient eye relief, stays sighted in use to use. Consistent shot to shot, I've put out some teeny groups with it. Tough enough, while waiting for orders to come in I ran this scope through range sessions with full up 45/70 and 44 mag from my Marlins and it has held up.

Downside: Poor tracking, at least .22lr is cheap to shoot when re-sighting. Compared to my Weavers (Japan made K2.5 & V3) it transmits less light and has less clarity. There is some lens flare with low angle sun.

cbrgator
October 9, 2008, 03:05 PM
How much worse could it be than the Simmons 4x15 it came with? As long as it holds 0 that's all I care about.

Asherdan
October 9, 2008, 05:13 PM
Look at it this way...

You already have both scopes in hand, so the only cost you're in for to find out if it works for you is rings for the 3x9.

If it doesn't work out for you you flip back to the 15mm objective one and save those rings until you have the ca$h for another scope.

Heck, that's how a BSA wound up on mine.

cbrgator
October 9, 2008, 06:48 PM
Look at it this way...

You already have both scopes in hand, so the only cost you're in for to find out if it works for you is rings for the 3x9.

If it doesn't work out for you you flip back to the 15mm objective one and save those rings until you have the ca$h for another scope.

Heck, that's how a BSA wound up on mine.
A valid point indeed.

gvnwst
October 9, 2008, 10:57 PM
get a bushnell 3-9x32 rimfire scope instead. it costs all of $55, and is much better than the BSA.

CRITGIT
October 10, 2008, 01:29 AM
For a time in the last century BSA was looking to grab the Tasco/Bushnell area of the market.
At the outset, some of their scopes were actually made in the Hakko plant in Japan (mid 90's). These were very respectable scopes at great prices as a way to get established. If you have one you know what a bargain they are.
Unfortunately, they quickly shifted their standards and quality control.
By the "turn of the century" they pretty much............. sucked!
Today, I don't know a .22 rimfire rifle that deserves the compromised "quality" of a BSA!
IMHO they are just one step up from a paper towel core.

Specific experiences upon request.

There are China made scopes that are much better than the B'zers. Try Bushnell, Millet or even Tasco's Pronghorn.


CRITGIT

rrflyer
October 10, 2008, 01:36 AM
I had 5 scopes on my MK II before I finally got one I've been happy with.

I had the BSA varminter scope and i had to resight it everytime I took it out.

I ended up splurging and dropping 140 on a Mueller APV Tactical model. On a given day I'll shot from 50 to 100 yards and soon 200+ so having a scope that tracks and is resettable is a very very nice.

Hunter0924
October 10, 2008, 02:30 AM
I have a few BSA scopes on my less expensive bolt action rifles and mind do just fine for what I use them for.
They ain't no Leupold but with a life time warranty they ain't bad.

Dookie
October 10, 2008, 02:45 AM
I have found the BSA Sweet 22 to be a decent scope for the money, well built, and none of the extra junk that was put on the sweet 17 that always breaks.

dagger dog
October 10, 2008, 06:57 AM
If you had the money you would put a Schmidt and Bender on it wouldn't you?
Well you don't and you already got the BSA. So give it a try you might be surprised.

Just be ready for all the flak you're going get from the:barf: optic snobs.
This has to be one of the all time outright optic bashing thread subjects of the century(BSA QUALITY). Yeah, you get what you pay for , it's just that some people don't get paid the same.

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