alliant lead reloading data


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wankerjake
October 10, 2008, 01:14 AM
Well, I've been shooting 125gr LRNs in my 9mm with hodgdon titegroup and clays and I like both powders, but I happened into some bullseye and unique and I want to try them out. The problem is that alliant doesn't list reloading data for lead bullets in 9mm on their website. I know people shoot these powders for in 9mm, so anybody want to share their recipes with me?

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tlen
October 10, 2008, 02:04 AM
Alliant doesn't list any .40 S&W lead loads either. You can always email Alliant [alliant.reloading@atk.com] and ask for loads [powder & bullets] specific to your needs. I have done so several times and have received a response in a couple of days. Alliant has much more data than is published and I have complained that there is a definite lack of lead bullet load data. Obviously, Alliant is more concerned about pushing data for Speer bullets which are jacketed.

Steve C
October 10, 2008, 04:32 AM
From their online data a couple years ago. I'll have it available until 10/17.
http://members.cox.net/scollins15/transfers_public/9mm luger.htm

Galil5.56
October 10, 2008, 07:17 AM
The link provided by Steve is correct Alliant data, but will be very hot if worked up to max charges. For example:

4 grains of Bullseye gets me a measured avg velocity of 1092 fps from my Beretta M9.

5 grains of Unique gets 1180 fps avg velocity from the same pistol.

I am not saying they are dangerous max charge weights, just when you start out WJ, you might go lower than the recommended 10% start weight. FWIW, I have found 4.2-4.5 grains of Unique to be a really sweet shooting weight, and what I crank out most.

Also wanted to mention an extremely valuable internet tool I have used for years for finding discontinued load data, and a lot of other stuff:

http://www.archive.org/index.php

This site allows you to go back to a certain website as it existed many years back. It can run very slow at times, not connect/crash but it has always bee worth the wait. I think there is a mirror site that can be found with a google search. Here is the Alliant homepage from Nov 1998 where you can click on data

http://web.archive.org/web/19981111184740/http://www.alliantpowder.com/

dcgilbert
October 10, 2008, 08:42 AM
I 've been pretty much lurking here for a while, but thought I'd chime in for once. Alliant's 2004 load data can be downloaded as a pdf from here:

http://glarp.atk.com/2004/2004Catalogs/2004AlliantPowderSM.pdf

It has more lead bullet data in it than their current version.
Dave

Galil5.56
October 10, 2008, 09:08 AM
Looking at load data links and manuals from Hercules/Alliant from years past, puts a laser focus on the schizophrenic load data they have published. Some of it in 9mm discussed here:

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=325464

Thank God for chronographs!

Quoheleth
October 10, 2008, 10:31 PM
According to Lee's manual:

9mm 125 Lead
Bullseye: Starting load: 4.7 gr = 1121fps//Max load: 4.9gr = 1165fps
Unique: Starting load: 5.3 gr = 1106fps//max load: 5.5gr = 1139fps

If you need Lee auto disk info let me know.

Q

wankerjake
October 10, 2008, 10:56 PM
I have the lee powder measure data, but thanks for the info. I'll try that until I hear from Alliant. Thanks guys!

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