What about Armalite?


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H1500308
October 12, 2008, 11:16 PM
I see all these threads about "what's a good quality AR" and such and no one really seems to mention the Armalite M-15s. What gives? They seem to be well made and reliable. Maybe some don't like the green furniture.

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rangerruck
October 13, 2008, 01:04 AM
they are all right, a little bit better than avg., I also really dig their 180-b's, but they are price too high , in my opinion.

Bubbles
October 13, 2008, 01:22 AM
Pic of me and my (mostly) Armalite AR10 that my hubby built. It's a fine rifle and we've never had a problem with their products or customer service.

The guy on the left is Dick Heller. He can't own one of those in DC... yet.

http://www.goodhunting.com/goodhunters/images//4246.jpg

H1500308
October 14, 2008, 10:59 PM
Nice Rifle!

Anteater1717
October 14, 2008, 11:02 PM
Armalite's are fine AR-15s

jughead2
October 14, 2008, 11:09 PM
i like the AR- 50

MechAg94
October 14, 2008, 11:38 PM
I've had a 20" standard model for quite some time. It works great for me. I had to go through a little bit of break in initially, but it shoots great. I learned a bit about getting quality mags and that Wolf ammo makes it really, really dirty.

I had a little concern about people saying the Wolf ammo is hard on extractors, but a spare bolt with extractor is about $50 and good to have anyway.

gvnwst
October 14, 2008, 11:49 PM
I see all these threads about "what's a good quality AR" and such and no one really seems to mention the Armalite M-15s. What gives?

mostly, people are looking for 16" carbines, with collapisible stocks, or flat tops over carry handels. The M-15 is a good rifle though

Z-Michigan
October 14, 2008, 11:52 PM
Armalite makes 16" carbine models also.

IMHO, Armalite has nicer fit and finish than many other AR brands. Also, if you read the tech data on their website, they clearly pay attention to details, rather than just putting parts together in a garage.

45B@cav
October 14, 2008, 11:53 PM
I don't own one but would like too add one to my collection.

BigBuckMaster
October 15, 2008, 03:23 PM
i got a AR-180 with a (custom ordered) 28' barrel. nice gun.

17poundr
October 15, 2008, 04:27 PM
Has anybody got experience with the AR-30 (I'm especially interested in the 338lapua model)?

It looks like a good simple and reasonably priced rifle that can shurely shoot true to at least one km... (please correct me if I'm wrong).

I KNOW that their AR-15s are good, I mean they invented the gun (with a large ammount of Eugene Stoners help ofcourse)!

But I'm fascinated with the AR-30 for some reason. I mean if there isnt any reason why it's a bad gun, I think it's perhaps the best lapua 338cal gun out there...

But alas, living in Finland, one cannot just get ones hands on a high caliber semi auto rifle, and now that we had a second 'crazy shooting' in a school inside one summer, they are talking of cutting the gun permits validity to some years instead of indefinite if you didnt commit certain crimes after getting the permit...

Also in the county where the two shootings happened they have suspended giving new gun licences to anybody temporarily!!!

Looks like Finland will be a tougher place to get a licence soon...

Anyway, I still have a fascination to the AR-30 in 338lapua, so if anybody has experinence with the ar-30, please drop a line! :)

Mr Poundr.

ps, I put some pics of other good armalite products, and some good sharp shooters that I would love to test! Anybody got any good pics of the AR-30???

Z-Michigan
October 15, 2008, 06:13 PM
I KNOW that their AR-15s are good, I mean they invented the gun (with a large ammount of Eugene Stoners help ofcourse)!

Actually, the Armalite we're talking about here has about nothing to do with the Armalite that created the AR10, 15, 16, and 18. Today's Armalite was Eagle Arms (IIRC) just an independent maker of AR's, until the name "Armalite" became available and they purchased it.

I still think today's Armalite is a great company, but the only thing they share with 1950's Armalite is the name.

made2cut
October 15, 2008, 06:20 PM
I like mine :D. Haven't had a failure yet.

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o278/made2cut/armalite_sm.jpg

Jaybird78
October 15, 2008, 06:58 PM
I've got a 20" rifle from them.

I've been very happy. As others have posted they make 16" also.

I've shot both their AR-30 and AR-50 and they are also super :cool:

No problem with my rifle.

17poundr
October 16, 2008, 11:21 AM
Sorry for the messup about the history of Armalite co...

the gun below looks awesome! Is it a 16inch? Boy I wish I could take it and go on a practical path like we had in the army with pop up targets coming up sideways from behind building walls (among other things)! (Anybody want to design a great practical shooting range with me)? ;)

navajo
October 16, 2008, 12:15 PM
Haven't released it yet but they are now making a 7.62X39mm AR-15.
I like the AR10s enough to have 3 of them.

Anteater1717
October 16, 2008, 09:37 PM
The one I shot was easily a sub-moa gun.

ar10
October 16, 2008, 10:25 PM
I only need one, never failed, jambed, or misfired, and I really like the upsidedown trigger. :)

VE2RF
October 17, 2008, 01:44 AM
I have an AR-180B, and I've built one AR-10 for my father, and two more AR-10's for myself.

I couldn't afford an M15 lower, but I will be buying an M15 upper when I do a .223 AR-15.

gunnie
October 17, 2008, 06:32 AM
UP SIDE:

i am VERY happy with my 30M in .338. has a nightforce 5.5x22x56 NXS on top with the NPR2 reticle and a 15 minute rail. perfect match for this iron. will go out to 1,000 yards with that reticle, and no cranking on the knobs.

it recoils like a medium weight 7.62x51...that muzzle break really works well!

it LOVES the black hills 300 gr sierra loading. you'll save a lot of money over the accuracy international, and this one does better with the 300 gr match king, per "special weapons" magazine test. and to me the 300 gr loading is what this caliber is all about.

DOWN SIDE:

blackhills ammo has gotten ~stupid~ expensive since they got a government contract in the .338 lapua loading.

the magazines are way overpriced.

gunnie

clevland11
October 17, 2008, 06:18 PM
Haven't released it yet but they are now making a 7.62X39mm AR-15.

Do you think this rifle would be any good? I have been dying for an AR-15 in 7.62x39 that didn't cost $2k (a la Robinson arms).

http://www.ar15products.net/att1380.jpg

aliveisalive
October 17, 2008, 08:14 PM
Clevland... try www.model1sales.com

I've heard their uppers work pretty good as long as you get good mags.... and cproducts has a 30 rnd out now that is supposed to be nice.

17poundr
October 20, 2008, 05:03 PM
Dear gunnie. Im very very happy and envious to hear about the AR-30 in 338lapua!

What price are the actual Lapua ammunitions? (I bet they cost a lot)...

But remembering the difference in our army guns (The finnish army's RK-62 series uses 7.62x39mm ammo). The Russian ammo we sometimes fired fouled like mad, the guns were black like a chimney after about 30 rounds!

But when we got those golden gleaming Lapua made rounds, they were soo clean!

Also, I noticed that the brass from the russian made rounds was left to rust, but the lapua rounds brass was collected for re-loading.

crash50
October 20, 2008, 05:41 PM
I bought one 5 yrs ago so I could put optics on it, as the agency I work for would not let us scope our duty rifles, (Bushmaster AR-15's).
I took the carrying handle off, put a BUIS on it, and then put an EOTECH on the rail in front of that.
I put a vertical fore-grip on it and added a Gladiator tactical light to a rail mount on the side of the barrel. Oh, I took the collapsible stock off and put an A-2 fixed on it as I've got the gorilla complex.(6"4", 250 Lbs)
The stupid thing still looks like a mattel toy when I carry it!
It shoots real well to about 300 meters.

My entry weapon is a built-up registered AR-15 pistol with the full length carbine buffer tube on it. The lower is a DPMS and the upper is a Model 1, 11.5" Commando.
It shoots real well out to about 150 meters, then the pattern spreads slightly to about 4 inches.
I have the same light on it as the Armalite, but no fore-grip as it would change the classification to an, AOW, (or any other weapon status) It also has the tritium sights on it.

The department armorer certified it as all the parts are stock.

The one drawback is that it's LOUD. Must wear plugs or muffs at the range.
((It absolutely drives the LT nuts when I carry this thing))

Intimidation factor: 9/10

As others have said, use quality magazines and quality ammo, and there will be no feed or eject issues.

17poundr
October 21, 2008, 11:53 AM
I read crash50s account of a gun that made me so very envious even though I didnt understand a lot of the parts he got onto his AR-15 'carbine'.

Now, I'll post some questions that might seem silly to you guys, but in europe we really dont know that much about the ARs and the nicknames of various attachments... So:

1. What is a BUIS?
2. What is an EOTECH?
3. How can I best comprehend this: " a built-up registered AR-15 pistol with the full length carbine buffer tube on it. The lower is a DPMS and the upper is a Model 1, 11.5" Commando."

I have noticed a fiew firms offering AR-15 based 'pistols' and other things which have a stick instead of a stock on them... Is there a law that makes them do this? (I mean the rigs that have a stick instead of a stock, I'll put a picture of such guns).

I'm just curious.:):confused::)

Yours truly,

Mr Poundr.

Is the below an AR rig? Or is it something else, this is what it said on the site I downloaded the pic from: Vulcan V94-300 5,5 inch semi auto 'pistol'.

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=86698&stc=1&d=1224600109

How about this, why the stick instead of a stock?
http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=86694&stc=1&d=1224600110

Is this a good optic, and can people tell me what is it that it exactly does? Does it magnify the picture by three times? What is the main difference to a holographic site? see below:
http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=86697&stc=1&d=1224600110

What about these two?
http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=86696&stc=1&d=1224600110

And this, what about an AR that has a pistol grip? I mean, why isnt it too heavy? Why do they show it being shot like a normal semi-auto handgun, instead of a shotgun without a stock (where the other hand holds on to the part in front of the magazine, the natural way to hold such a gun imho, anyway that's how I would shoot it)?
http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=86700&stc=1&d=1224601363

And dear friends, please forgive me for not knowing much of the parlance of the gun language, and consepts in AR guns that seem as simple as ABC to you. I'm only happy to learn if you will part with some info for me please? :)

gunnie
October 23, 2008, 06:21 AM
"...What price are the actual Lapua ammunitions? (I bet they cost a lot)..."

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gunnie

ParaElite
October 25, 2008, 05:33 AM
A lot of people don't seem to get the fact that the .308 or 7.62 Nato ARs offered by companies like DPMS, Armalite/Eagle, and etc. are different animals from the AR15s offered by these same companies. It's like comparing apples and oranges. I have an LMT M4 and a Colt 6920 but for my .308, I wanted good value for the money which includes accuracy so I bought a DPMS LR 308 and have not regretted it since. But for trouble free shooting and excellent build quality, my LMT is my favorite - no hiccups of any kind. Cold War was selling the Colt 6920s for $1150 at the last Dallas Market Hall show. If I had the money, I would have bought another.

17poundr
October 27, 2008, 12:29 PM
Gunnie, I suspect that you already know that Lapua is one of the most quality oritentated firms in the market (and I'm not saying this because I'm half Finnish).

Still 100 bucks for 20 rounds, thats five dollars per round!!!

It must be a bit irritating to have to pay so much to get in that important training. One could ofcourse use another company's cheaper rounds, but they wont behave the same...

Well, it is the preferred medium sniper round of most armies in the world, so it cannot be c**p!

If I ever get to america, I will try to look you up and have some fun shooting long range!

Yours most enviously, Mr poundr. :)

Guns and more
October 27, 2008, 10:20 PM
I read the "AR" in AR-15 stands for Armalite.
They developed the platform, so I guess they know how to make them.

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