what the heck is that!


October 13, 2008, 02:20 PM
http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/5326/p1010405mw1.th.jpg (http://img399.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p1010405mw1.jpg)

Its a mosin bullpup! It took me about 30 hours, the biggest hurdle was I have no skills and fewer tools. This would probably take some guys on here about 4 hours, but everything I did, I had to do twice because I had to try it once then figure out a work around and do it over. The only power tools used were a drill, an angle grinder.

Its scary accurate, under 2 inches at 50 yards, a personal best (this is probably not a result of the stock). Its compact and people were climbing over each other to see what it was at the range. The trigger is way better than the stock mosin. The new trigger trades distance for weight so its more like a DA revolver. Its really HEAVY using solid steel and aluminum its got to weigh close to 15 pounds (fortunatly the weight is in the rear so its easy to shoot and recoil is non existant). I didn't change anything that cannot be changed back, in fact to swap back to original soviet configuration would be less than 5 minutes. My only real gripe is that if you are not careful the cocking piece will bite your cheek when it comes foward, if you have a correct cheek weld this is not a problem but sometimes I forget.

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Claude Clay
October 13, 2008, 02:30 PM
just scary to me having a cheek weld so close to the mosin bolt. never heard tell of one failing, but.....

October 13, 2008, 02:33 PM
Looks pretty cool. What's the overall length?
I don't know that I'd want my face so close to such a hot reciever. Can you work the bolt while the rifle is shouldered (assuming that you could work it without a hammer)?

Final thought: Bullpup obryez.

October 13, 2008, 02:44 PM
Ill check on the OAL when I get home. I can tell you its the length from the end of the barrel to the end of the open bolt + 1 inch. I soaked that reciever in cleaning solution when I first got it so the bolt throw isnt bad with Privi ammo, the surplus is loaded hotter so its somewhat tougher. I put my hand over the top of reciever when I fire so its pretty intuitve to slide it back and lift/cycle the bolt.
Frankly I am not comfortable having my face that close either and I want to get some sort of guard to go between, but I was really anxious to test.

October 13, 2008, 02:47 PM
Gotcha. Sounds pretty neat.

Jorg Nysgerrig
October 13, 2008, 04:26 PM
Its scary accurate, under 2 inches at 50 yards
Isn't that like 4 MOA?

October 13, 2008, 04:39 PM
Its scary accurate, under 2 inches at 50 yards,

ummm OK

October 13, 2008, 04:41 PM
That is pretty cool, sure is an original concept. Is there anyway you could post some larger pictures of it???


October 13, 2008, 04:42 PM
again its personal best shooting offhand. slightly better groups than 700bdl .30-06. So figure in my hands its on par with a renowned accurate rifle.

October 13, 2008, 05:25 PM
how does the trigger work???

October 13, 2008, 07:47 PM
Your gonna get some people making fun of the 2 inches at 50 yards but if that is your personal best then good for you.

Interesting design.

October 13, 2008, 09:43 PM
I'd never have my face that close to any milsurp receiver, esp. with milsurp ammo in it, but it's certainly pretty neat.

Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow
October 13, 2008, 09:49 PM
just scary to me having a cheek weld so close to the mosin bolt. never heard tell of one failing, but.....

Yeah, but think about this for a second....

If the bolt fails in standard configuration, the bolt is shot like a projectile into your face/jaw/ head, potentially with deadly results.

If the bolt fails in this bullpup configuration, it shoots safely back behind you, to the right of your neck, below your jaw.

Right? Just my observation. But, on the other hand, as far as gases and other debris or shrapnel, your face would be closer to ground zero.

In any event, nice job, CG!! :)

October 13, 2008, 10:32 PM
Is it harder to work the bolt on this compared to standard mosins, due to the bullpup configuration?

shooting offhand
I belive that is excellent for offhand shooting. For benchrest, maybe not so much, but offhand, awesome!

October 13, 2008, 10:33 PM
the russians made a mosin bullpup the OTs-48K . the OTs-47 & OTs-48 were the standard length version of the gun.
OTs-48K (http://http://www.kbptula.ru/eng/str/strelk/ots48k.htm)
i have some better pics somewhere
i'm going to do something similar but chambered in 6.5x54r biathlon

October 13, 2008, 11:35 PM
That's pretty cool, especially since it can be returned to original configuration.

October 13, 2008, 11:39 PM
I think it looks great! Can you post some more pictures. Try to post them as thumbnail sketch rather than in some photo album if you can. Aren't MN's fun to work on? Seems like you can't mess them up.

October 13, 2008, 11:57 PM
"Its scary accurate, under 2 inches at 50 yards"

That is pretty accurate..............for a handgun.

Looks neat, but 15 pounds is awfully heavy when one considers that the purpose of a bullpup is increased portability.

But I can understand doing things just to do them. The stock on my 10/22 was damaged, and I got bored one night:


October 14, 2008, 01:08 AM
It's neat.

Practical? Not so much.

But who cares? You had fun building and shooting it, it's something different, and it looks well-executed. I say that if you are having a good time with it, that's all that matters. Shooting is about having fun, people! Now, if our pal here claimed that this was the best SD rifle concept ever developed, or that it was a superior hunting rifle or something, that would be one thing. But, it is apparently just a fun range gun, and there isn't a thing in the world wrong with that.

October 14, 2008, 01:12 AM
Barrel from M91/30 or M44?

October 14, 2008, 06:19 AM
again its personal best shooting offhand. That word offhand makes a world of difference. It's not all that easy to shoot that way, as opposed to shooting off a bag.

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