Russian Tiger (fake SVD Dragunov)


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marktx
October 13, 2008, 07:58 PM
Just bought a Russian Tiger rifle on a whim as the price seemed right ($800) and I wanted a semi auto in 7.62x54r. The thing seems to be in good shape with a great looking bore. It has the usual Izmash and B-West stamped on the reciever. Not seeing any on Gunbroker right now. How did I do?

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fal 4 me
October 13, 2008, 08:05 PM
I would say you did real good. Hope you enjoy your new rifle.

And I would like to add, that the Tigr is a "hunting" dragunov, the Romanian PSL is the "Fake Dragunov"

marktx
October 13, 2008, 08:14 PM
Any idea where to get some parts for it? At minimum I would like to get an extra mag for the thing. I pretty much got a bare bones rifle/scope with one mag. Ideally I would like to put together the usual kit that comes with these type rifles. Looked around at Numrich and Sarco and couldn't find anything.

fal 4 me
October 13, 2008, 08:19 PM
Sorry, can't help you there. Don't know much about the tigrs other than they usually go for over a $1,000.

Wes Janson
October 13, 2008, 11:01 PM
I'll offer you $900 for it ;)

Onmilo
October 13, 2008, 11:03 PM
Give K-Var a call.
http://www.k-var.com

Sometimes they have things that are not listed on the website because they are in very limited supply.
A Tiger will accept the standard 10 shot Dragunov magazine.

I hope $125.00 per magazine doesn't shock you because that is the going rate for new. HTH

marktx
October 13, 2008, 11:28 PM
$125 does seem a little steep for a spare magazine.... of course I didn't accumulate the collection I have today by purchasing things at inflated going rate so I will have to shop around a bit.

armoredman
October 14, 2008, 01:40 AM
Under $1000 for a Tigr? Lucky bum...congrats! :)

Golden Hound
October 14, 2008, 02:54 AM
+1 - you got one hell of a deal. All of those that I've seen have been way more expensive like 2000 dollars at the least.

bejay
October 14, 2008, 04:44 AM
you might check here for magazines.
http://www.cdnninvestments.com/dragunov.html

Ash
October 14, 2008, 06:01 AM
That was about half price. You did well. I do think the Tigers are fake SVD's, though that may be harsh as they do have the same receiver and trigger group and are certainly Dragunov's design. The stock, rear sight, gas block, barrel, front sight, and muzzle device are not from the SVD (though we do have a Kiwi who can get Tigers imported to his native country that are far more SVD than the ones here).

The PSL isn't a fake Dragunov because it isn't a Dragunov. The Romanian's designed their own version, much like the Yugoslavs, but a fake it does not make, except that sellers here call them Drags, which they are not.

In any case, that was a superb price for a Tiger, and less than half price as the cheapest one I have seen in years in the US was $1,800, many of them being priced above two grand.

Ash

Ash
October 14, 2008, 06:02 AM
That was about half price. You did well. I do think the Tigers are fake SVD's, though that may be harsh as they do have the same receiver and trigger group and are certainly Dragunov's design. The stock, rear sight, gas block, barrel, front sight, and muzzle device are not from the SVD (though we do have a Kiwi who can get Tigers imported to his native country that are far more SVD than the ones here).

The PSL isn't a fake Dragunov because it isn't a Dragunov. The Romanian's designed their own version, much like the Yugoslavs, but a fake it does not make, except that sellers here call them Drags, which they are not.

In any case, that was a superb price for a Tiger, and less than half price as the cheapest one I have seen in years in the US was $1,800, many of them being priced above two grand.

Ash

Gun Wielding Maniac
October 14, 2008, 06:16 AM
You did VERY well. No question of that. There are people who would give you twice what you paid for it.

As for parts:
Check Dragunov.net

Ash
October 14, 2008, 06:16 AM
That was about half price. You did well. I do think the Tigers are fake SVD's, though that may be harsh as they do have the same receiver and trigger group and are certainly Dragunov's design. The stock, rear sight, gas block, barrel, front sight, and muzzle device are not from the SVD (though we do have a Kiwi who can get Tigers imported to his native country that are far more SVD than the ones here).

The PSL isn't a fake Dragunov because it isn't a Dragunov. The Romanian's designed their own version, much like the Yugoslavs, but a fake it does not make, except that sellers here call them Drags, which they are not.

In any case, that was a superb price for a Tiger, and less than half price as the cheapest one I have seen in years in the US was $1,800, many of them being priced above two grand.

Ash

mainmech48
October 14, 2008, 07:00 AM
IMO, the term "Dragunov" should refer to the operating system rather than the outward configuration.

The 'Tiger', as was said, is a hunting/sport rifle using the same Dragunov-designed short piston op system as the SVD. Cosmetics are irrelevent. It isn't an SVD, but it certainly is a "Dragunov".

You got an extremely good deal on a rare and desirable rifle. Enjoy.

slzy
October 14, 2008, 11:48 AM
cdnns' mags are for PSls. that is the single biggest problem with lying about what they are. there is nothing wrong with PSLs,but they are what they are.

PSls can be modded to work in Drags,but it seems like a lot of work.

Ash
October 14, 2008, 06:26 PM
A Dragunov has a fully-adjustable gas system. The Tiger does not. That is significant and is beyond cosmetic. However, they do both have the same receiver, bolt, and trigger parts. It is, certainly, built on the same machinery and the like. But, it is still a sporter rifle and not the real deal (semantics, perhaps). The Remington 798 might be a Mauser, but it is no K98k.

Ash

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