95% recoil reducer? Too good to be true?


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Owen Sparks
October 14, 2008, 01:47 AM
Has anyone ever heard of this device?

http://www.stealthir.com/no-recoil/index1.html#prices

This just sounds too good to be true. Is it a scam? Is it a hoax? Can it be real?

Just curious, OS

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General Geoff
October 14, 2008, 01:54 AM
considering they never actually explain how it works, I call BS.


You can't cheat the laws of physics.

Picard
October 14, 2008, 02:06 AM
It looks like a load of crap. Nothing on that website is explained. Don't waste your time or money on there.

Owen Sparks
October 14, 2008, 02:10 AM
They claim to have filed a pattent on it. Surely if the thing works someone here would know about it.

Claude Clay
October 14, 2008, 02:23 AM
last month the same group special was on cases of dehydrated water.
and im still waiting on the directions :mad:

HatFried
October 14, 2008, 02:36 AM
Well, they also sell StealthBoats (http://www.stealthir.com/stealthboat/index.html) if you're interested.

Owen Sparks
October 14, 2008, 02:38 AM
I bought some powdered water one time.

But I couldn't figure out what to mix it with.

This has got to be a scam. If such a thing existed, IPSC would have picked up on it by now. Those guys will go to extrordinary lengths to gain even a slight edge in compitition.

ColinthePilot
October 14, 2008, 02:59 AM
I wondering when that company is going to offer tactical blinker fluid and cannisters of seasonal combat air for your humvee tires.

RaisedByWolves
October 14, 2008, 03:11 AM
CaCa DoDo.:uhoh:

Double Naught Spy
October 14, 2008, 06:16 AM
If it was not legit, they could not put it on the internet.

qajaq59
October 14, 2008, 07:49 AM
They sell on the principle that Barnum was right. There's one born every minute. :evil:

oldgold
October 14, 2008, 08:32 AM
Sounds like they got a good thing going here. Send me your gun and a couple hundred.
Probably have to go to Nigeria to pick up your gun.


[QUOTE][Global Patent /QUOTE]

Anybody know where the Global Patent Office is?

alemonkey
October 14, 2008, 08:44 AM
"Taming the Wild & Vicious Recoil of the 12-Gauge Shotgun"

Sounds like these guys need to grow a pair.

moooose102
October 14, 2008, 08:46 AM
tell you what, you send them all of your firearms, we will wait for a report. chances are, not only will their "product" not work, but i would bet you will never see your firearms again either. what you will see, is a bill on your credit card for xx number of these "products". i wonder if they are in bed with Obama?

bdickens
October 14, 2008, 08:47 AM
Now I can finally build that .50BMG pistol!

contenderman
October 14, 2008, 09:18 AM
BS

Surprised they didn't have a "wait that's not all" line in there somewhere :barf:

Navy_Guns
October 14, 2008, 09:23 AM
Wait - I saw them advertising on the FireQuest website - they must be legitimate!

http://www.firequest.com/catalog/showcase_item_4.html

bmitchell
October 14, 2008, 09:26 AM
You can reduce recoil, muzzle flash and report by 100% much easier.
Simply don't load any cartridges into your gun.

jahwarrior
October 14, 2008, 09:30 AM
last month the same group special was on cases of dehydrated water.
and im still waiting on the directions

i think you need to add water to it.

ar10
October 14, 2008, 09:52 AM
I couldn't find the invisible bridge I've been looking for either. Guess I'll have to find one someplace else.

Claude Clay
October 14, 2008, 11:15 AM
last month the same group special was on cases of dehydrated water.
and im still waiting on the directions

i think you need to add water to it.

....catch a cloud
squeeze over open end of can.


"Anybody know where the Global Patent Office is? "

Terra del Fuego -- you must apply in person and they are only open on February 29th and the 1st Tuesday following the 1st Monday of a Blue Moon Month

Justin
October 14, 2008, 11:48 AM
Oooh...he says that the gun is available for testing to any competitive shooter. Someone should email him...

cat9x
October 14, 2008, 11:51 AM
doo-doo

BobOfTheFuture
October 14, 2008, 12:09 PM
The violent recoil of 120mm Mortar will be tamed enough to be mounted on a standard platform on a Jeep or on a robot.



heh heh heh. robots are funny.

Dravur
October 14, 2008, 12:35 PM
That site is surreal. Sealthboats... landing gear...
Kind of like a weird stream of consciousness for the retarded.

deadin
October 14, 2008, 12:38 PM
I'm also impressed by their high-tech testing equipment. (Pegboard, dial caliper and a screendoor spring) Looks like it was put together by McGiver.:uhoh:

JesseL
October 14, 2008, 12:44 PM
http://k53.pbase.com/u40/dataman/upload/26233670.P2087846copy.jpg

Old Grump
October 14, 2008, 12:46 PM
I wonder if it could tame the recoil on my 12MM automatic assault rifle pistol. You don't suppose it would mess up the concealibility by making it to heavy?

deadin
October 14, 2008, 01:08 PM
You can't cheat the laws of physics.

Very true!! However, you could add weight, but just to cancel out a standard 38 Spl load would take around 8 or 9 lbs.. (That would be really handy.:barf:)
If I remember my physics, you can also convert energy to heat. I don't know how much heat would have to be generated to soak up the recoil, but I bet you wouldn't be able to hold the gun without asbestos gloves.:eek:)

hksw
October 14, 2008, 01:38 PM
When it comes to testing, personally, I immediately disregard any results obtained from folks who cannot even correctly identify the tools they use to test with.

Eightball
October 14, 2008, 01:41 PM
They can't spell, or cheat physics, or even explain the principle on which their "product" works.

It's an obvious scam.

230RN
October 14, 2008, 01:53 PM
They sell on the principle that Barnum was right. There's one born every minute.

You mean there have been 6,244,128,000 P. T. Barnums born?

Wowwwww.


(The word "gullible" is not in the dictionary.)

alemonkey
October 14, 2008, 02:23 PM
I'm going to buy my Lab the stealth dog suit. That way I can send him to poop in the neighbor's yard without getting caught.

SDC
October 14, 2008, 02:40 PM
I don't see the advertised device as being very useful, but there ARE some very interesting ideas available out there that I'd like to see someone make use of; one of the most effective I've seen is "balanced-piston" operation, where gas pressure is used both to drive the bolt/bolt carrier rearwards, AND drive a correspondingly heavy piston forwards, thereby cancelling out the rearwards recoil (or at least most of it). One of the runner-ups in the Russian Abakan rifle trials, the AEK-971, is based on this principle, and it shows an almost unreal lack of muzzle climb, especially in full-auto. You can see a video of the AEK-971 being fired at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOozMdEV_AU

Hawk
October 14, 2008, 03:07 PM
I like the magic motor better. With that thing I could probably clear enough I could pay someone to absorb recoil on my behalf.

Wait. Where's the fun in that?
Never mind.

hankdatank1362
October 14, 2008, 04:30 PM
It's got to be a gag site. It's just got to be.




That's absolutely ri-donk-ulous.

helz_mcfugly
October 14, 2008, 04:44 PM
HAHAHAHA "deap breath" BWAHAHAHAH oh man, this is a great read. thanks for the laugh guys. this is why I come to thehighroad. oh yea and to get good wisdom on gunny shooty thingies

mljdeckard
October 14, 2008, 05:15 PM
I flipped through it, looking to see what they know that other mfrs of compensators/ companies that do porting don't know, I couldn't discern any advantage.

Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow
October 14, 2008, 10:30 PM
This may be the funniest thread ever; what a hootenanny! :)

HTTIRSP, IR stealth coverall for hunters or dog….....……...$395 each
Daytime stealth coverall for Hunter, dog, or diver ….………$1,250 each
Nano tech paint against visibility, IR, & Radar……….….…..$19 per sqft

Whew, that's rich! I would love to see a diver wearing coveralls - does that go under or over the wetsuit? - Too bad I wouldn't be able to see him though; rats!

A PAINT that makes you invisible to RADAR - awesome - I need that! They could have saved the DD billions in the F117 and B2 design developments by just selling them some of that paint to slap on an FA-18, at only $19 per square foot!

Now, it IS ok to send your 120mm mortar via UPS, for your retrofit kit, right?

I'm pretty sure the retrofit recoil-reducer itself is also invisible - you don't need to see it, but rest assured, it's in there when you get your gun (or mortar) back.

alemonkey
October 14, 2008, 11:44 PM
My guess is the entire site was created by a 10 year old with limited English skills.

spelsh
October 15, 2008, 03:17 PM
Did anyone look at the bottom of the page and check out the links? This one is my favorite:

http://www.stealthir.com/recoil/50caliber.html

Old Grump
October 15, 2008, 03:37 PM
As long as my enemy is far away I see no need to snipe him out. Better to invite him over for ribs then convince him he has a serious disease and he needs to take an extended vacation to a small tropical island in a remote part of the Azores. Thats in the Atlantic and by the time he finds out where it is he'll be so confused he won't be able to find you. He will be reduced to making recoil canceling devices to sell to tourists just to get his daily ration of chewing gum and bread.

raz-0
October 15, 2008, 03:53 PM
A PAINT that makes you invisible to RADAR - awesome - I need that! They could have saved the DD billions in the F117 and B2 design developments by just selling them some of that paint to slap on an FA-18, at only $19 per square foot!

While I agree there is no free lunch, and I'm sure there is some hefty, undesirable downside to their recoil reducer, I hope you are only laughing at the price.

PArt of the stealhiness of the f117 and B2 is in the paint. It absorbs radio waves and radiates them as heat. I'm sure it costs more than $19 per square foot though, especially given the application process necessary to make it work properly.

230RN
October 17, 2008, 02:12 PM
I believe that's the same stuff they coat on microwave dishes which "crisp up" the food. Like burritos and chicken pot pies. It's a gray, almost silvery coating.

I once tried to research where I could get a bucket of that stuff to paint my car with.

For obvious reasons.

I always wanted to collect a bunch of those dishes just to stick them on my car to see if it would work.

But I like neither burritos nor chicken pot pies that much.

Hoplophile
October 17, 2008, 02:27 PM
http://www.stealthir.com/stealthboat/index.html

OH MY GOD, DEADLY SEA GORILLAS WITH HELLFIRE?!?!?

ar10
October 18, 2008, 07:52 AM
PArt of the stealhiness of the f117 and B2 is in the paint. It absorbs radio waves and radiates them as heat. I'm sure it costs more than $19 per square foot though, especially given the application process necessary to make it work properly.

It's not "paint". it's a layered composite material and was hard as hell just to apply. The lamination that was applied kept separating on every 4th or 5th layer and took forever to get it right. I remember North Amer Rockwell was firing/hiring engineers about every 2 or 3 days over that problem on the B1. Same technology was used on the various missiles being developed about the same time.

MinnMooney
October 18, 2008, 11:10 AM
http://www.gunsandswords.com/solid-russian-rpg.html


Here's one that has proven 100% recoil reduction.

Swede
October 19, 2008, 10:33 AM
I bought one of these. What they are not showing you is the piece of rope. You tie one end to the barrel and the other to the table. Pesto, no recoil. :D

230RN
October 19, 2008, 10:51 AM
PArt of the stealhiness of the f117 and B2 is in the paint. It absorbs radio waves and radiates them as heat. I'm sure it costs more than $19 per square foot though, especially given the application process necessary to make it work properly.

They shoulda hired me. I'da just taken a bunch of the above-mentioned Burrito wrappers and Chicken Pot Pie plates and duct-taped them to the aircraft.

Like I wanted to do with my car.

koginam
October 19, 2008, 01:07 PM
First off I have nothing to do with this company and as with you I first heard of this companies claims on this thread.

But I think I know how it operates, many years ago a company came up with several products for handgun and rifles that reduced the recoil and flash to nearly zero. I fired a S&W 41 cal before the modification and after, the recoil was no more then a .380 after, On a Ruger ACC556 (full auto version mini 14) it removed all felt recoil and barrel climb, which on the standard 556 is beyond bad, On the mini 14 and M-16 it also removed all flash even on full auto. They also demonstrated a Remington 416 with the modification and it reduced the recoil to that of a 243. I know the .41 and the .416 had their barrels cut off a few inches and a new piece of smooth bored barrel with several different dimensions ending with a reduced diameter at the muzzle. The mini 14 and m-16 changes were accomplished with a flash suppressor.
since this company claims it uses a insert maybe this is using the same technology. I won't be the first to send them a gun but I will keep an open mind. I am old enough to remember the doubts that were raised about muzzle breaks working.

raz-0
October 20, 2008, 12:45 AM
It's not "paint". it's a layered composite material and was hard as hell just to apply. The lamination that was applied kept separating on every 4th or 5th layer and took forever to get it right. I remember North Amer Rockwell was firing/hiring engineers about every 2 or 3 days over that problem on the B1. Same technology was used on the various missiles being developed about the same time.

Well, for it not being paint, it is defnitly paint-like in that it was applied with a large CNC spraygun robot to avoid altering the geometry of the F117. It was a multi-layer finish though.

akanotken
October 27, 2008, 12:03 AM
So that you can put in two bullets. One pointed to the target, the other goes 180 opposite direction.

so far, there's been no complaints from testers .... :evil:

I found this ad as I was surfin. Google got me here. IN another google result, someone claiming to be dr. Z said the energy was being redirected to centrifical energy. So, if he put some kind of rotational part on board ...

I have an open mind when it comes to these things, but I also have a closed wallet....

The Lone Haranguer
October 27, 2008, 01:56 PM
You can redirect the forces of recoil, but you can't cheat Mr. Newton. ;)

hksw
October 27, 2008, 03:35 PM
You can redirect the forces of recoil, but you can't cheat Mr. Newton.

Sure you can. Just watch some TV shows and movies. They do it all the time so it must be true.

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