Russian SVD not importable?


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Domino
October 14, 2008, 08:19 PM
Did a search and I couldn't find anything truly conclusive...

Why is that Saiga rifles are importable but not a version of even a "sporter" SVD. It seems to me that the Saiga .308 with the thumbhole stock has very little difference to the SVD without a flash hider. So why can't they import a gun with an SVD action? I mean they can import neutered AK's so obviously it has nothing to do with action and everthing to do with a few features and the name right?

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Kino74
October 14, 2008, 08:32 PM
If I recall right, the Chinese and Russians could not export any firearm or firearm parts built at one of their military factories. If that is correct then the SVD could only be importable if exported from a different country where the rifle was kept 25 years or built at another factory.

Either way the SVD is not importable.

GarandOwner
October 14, 2008, 08:55 PM
No the SVD was banned from importation by: 27 CFR Part 47 Notice 851 Basically this removed the previous ban, of anything from Russia, and said that ONLY the following items could now be imported:

Pistols/Revolvers

1. German Model P08 Pistol
2. IZH 34M, .22 caliber Target Pistol
3. IZH 35M, .22 caliber Target Pistol
4. Mauser Model 1896 Pistol
5. MC-57-1 Pistol
6. MC-1-5 Pistol
7. Polish Vis Model 35 Pistol
8. Soviet Nagant Revolver
9. TOZ 35, .22 caliber Target Pistol

Rifles

1. BARS-4 Bolt Action Carbine
2. Biathlon Target Rifle, .22LR caliber
3. British Enfield Rifle
4. CM2, .22 caliber Target Rifle (also known as SM2,
.22 caliber)
5. German Model 98K Rifle
6. German Model G41 Rifle
7. German Model G43 Rifle
8. IZH-94
9. LOS-7 Bolt Action Rifle
10. MC-7-07
11. MC-18-3
12. MC-19-07
13. MC-105-01
14. MC-112-02
15. MC-113-02
16. MC-115-1
17. MC-125/127
18. MC-126
19. MC-128
20. Saiga Rifle
21. Soviet Model 38 Carbine
22. Soviet Model 44 Carbine
23. Soviet Model 91/30 Rifle
24. TOZ 18, .22 caliber Bolt Action Rifle
25. TOZ 55
26. TOZ 78
27. Ural Target Rifle, .22LR caliber
28. VEPR Rifle
29. Winchester Model 1895, Russian Model Rifle

Oh and the SVD is very different from the sagia, an SVD is not based on the AK like the Romanian PSL is.

Gunnerpalace
October 14, 2008, 09:03 PM
I thought the 89 ban banned it by name.

rojocorsa
October 14, 2008, 09:25 PM
So no Makarovs either?
Oh and the SVD is very different from the sagia, an SVD is not based on the AK like the Romanian PSL is.


True, Dragunov put a different (but still gas powered) action in his rifle. The SVD even comes with a bayonet lug, Oh those crazy Russians!

Evil Monkey
October 14, 2008, 09:25 PM
Who cares about the svd. There are far better choices of similar rifles available domestically with great infrastructure behind them.

rojocorsa
October 14, 2008, 09:36 PM
Who cares about the svd. There are far better choices of similar rifles available domestically with great infrastructure behind them.

It's just that some of us are collectors, we don't see it like that. :cool:

Evil Monkey
October 14, 2008, 10:36 PM
It's just that some of us are collectors, we don't see it like that.

I cannot argue with that. I try not to be emotionally attached to a particular design like I used to because of its history or otherwise so I tend to forget that feeling.

jackdanson
October 14, 2008, 10:45 PM
Who cares about the svd. There are far better choices of similar rifles available domestically with great infrastructure behind them.

Most of my guns are owned "for fun".. an svd could easily fall into that category.

Kino74
October 15, 2008, 01:18 AM
I have a NDM-86. It does stand out quite a bit. :D

Golden Hound
October 15, 2008, 01:41 AM
I don't understand WHY that import ban exists. What is the motivation behind it? Is it some kind of anti-Russian thing? Is it an issue of economic sanctions or something?

Kino74
October 15, 2008, 02:42 AM
Consider it a Clinton thing. :cuss: I sure do miss Chinese AKs also.

Kino74
October 15, 2008, 02:43 AM
Consider it a Clinton thing. :cuss: I sure do miss Chinese AKs also.

BigBuckMaster
October 15, 2008, 02:21 PM
i have a Russian SVD and a Dragunov, both taken from dead combantns. my granddaddy got me the SVD and my uncle the Dragunov. the ruskies may be wierd in thier gun looks and types (a bayonett under a bipod, or a grenade launcher on a SMG), but they work, as ugly as they may be.

Beagle-zebub
October 15, 2008, 02:47 PM
BigBuckMaster, SVD and Dragunov are synonymous. SVD stands for "Snayperskaya Vintovka Dragunova," which is "Dragunov's Sniper Rifle," if you like that translation of the Russian genitive. Since he didn't design anything else of great significance, "Dragunov" is what people often say when they mean "SVD." Could you describe each so that we can have a better idea of what you have?

Gunnerpalace
October 15, 2008, 04:22 PM
Who cares about the svd. There are far better choices of similar rifles available domestically with great infrastructure behind them.

That was not the question.

And Bush 1 signed the 89 ban. ( it was an EO)

Limeyfellow
October 15, 2008, 04:53 PM
It was more a stop the flooding of imports of them, but still make a mild offer to please gunright groups by letting in some of the Russian stuff, but not anything that sounded kind of militarily. This was still at the end of the cold war and ties weren't as close.

The 89 ban and 92 Chinese SKS ban was more along the lines of domestic gunmakers throwing a fit that imports were accounting for over half of gunsales since people were picking up rifles for about 1/4 to 1/10th of the cost.

Gunnerpalace
October 15, 2008, 05:17 PM
domestic gunmakers throwing a fit that imports were accounting

Oh, like the California out of state FFL deal right?

Hoppy590
October 15, 2008, 05:25 PM
If I recall right, the Chinese and Russians could not export any firearm or firearm parts built at one of their military factories. If that is correct then the SVD could only be importable if exported from a different country where the rifle was kept 25 years or built at another factory.

eh, good try, but the Saigas are made at the Izmash/Izhevsk factory which has been the center of all Russian/Soviet/Russian military small arms manufacturing for the last 100+ years


its just banned thanks to politicians

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