[Kilted Cossack]

Ladies and Gents:

I have decided to venture out into the uncharted territory of "handgun lasers."

I am NOT interested in commentary of the "learn to use the sights" type. I AM going to buy one to try out, and I WILL mount it to my "test-bed" pistol, a Glock 21 whose grip frame has been abbreviated to G30 dimensions.

Off the top of my head, I can think of three routes to pursue: a LaserMax internal guide rod laser, the Crimson Trace grip-mounted laser, and the rail-mount LaserMax, umm, laser.

I am willing to spend the money to get a good test example, and I'm not looking to duct-tape a cheap laser pointer to the bottom of the Glock. Could you kindly share with me your opinions of the three systems I outlined above? Also, if I have overlooked a different manufacturer, or a different mounting system, I would greatly appreciate it if you brought it to my attention.

At present the 21 has a Burris FastFire red dot optic mounted using the Burris Glock plate (i.e., not low mounted into the milled slide).

I thank you in advance for your input (and will probably respond to the input down lower in this post).

Best,

The Kilted Cossack

[coop4u2c]

Love my Crimson Trace! Have one on a small frame Taurus. Can't get more simple to operate. A freind of mine had a LaserMax guide rod on his glock. Worked well for the short time he had the firearm (I never got a chance to shoot his glock).

[Flame Red]

I love my Crimson Trace I put on my 1911.

[texas bulldog]

of the options you mentioned, i've only used crimson trace. that was on a j-frame smith that wasn't my own. i will say that i really liked it. very simple to operate. just grip the gun normally, and there it is. nothing to turn on, and nothing to add bulk to your weapon.

i just may have to get myself one...

[EHL]

I have both. If I could have just one for my 1911's, it'd be hands down the lasermax. Much easier to find holsters for it and it doesn't change the contour of the gun for gripping. I think both company's make a very good laser though. If the glock is already filling your hands up, a CT might make it just a little bit bulkier. I've noticed a huge difference in the feel of my 1911 Officers model after I installed CT grips on her, and then took them off for range practise. What a difference. I'd opt for lasermax for that gun. I have CT grips for my Walther PPKS too, no guide rod on that, so I have to use CT grips. Those are great for that little gun. Crimson trace grips are very accurate out of the box, I had to do some sighting in with the lasermax. (about 15mins worth)

[rondog]

I like my CT's. Outstanding product, IMO.

[Kilted Cossack]

Ahem, now, and don't I look SILLY! (Not for the first time.)

Looking over Crimson Trace's website with a bit more attentiveness, I don't even see a lasergrip for the G21 LISTED.

[rondog]

Call them on the phone and verify that, I don't trust website info.

[Dgreno]

The one for the g30 and the g21 is said to be interchangeable. ymmv.

[Kilted Cossack]

rondog:

E-mail is ethering its way to customer service for Crimson Trace, EVEN AS WE (ahem) SPEAK!

[Kilted Cossack]

Dgreno:

Shouldn't your sig line have something about "slayer of moose" as well?

[rondog]

rondog:

E-mail is ethering its way to customer service for Crimson Trace, EVEN AS WE (ahem) SPEAK!

Guess I'm too old....I prefer to use a phone and find out NOW! Websites can be vague and incomplete, and not work well. Emails can be ignored or forwarded to someone else. While a phone call...."hey, you have these?" "Yep!" "Good, here's my info, send me one".

[jaydubya]

I have Crimson Trace grips on three of my handguns, all that have CT grips available. I will not buy a handgun for which CT grips are not available. I shoot two of them weekly at the range, partly iron sights, partly lasers. There is no doubt in my mind which is better for me. In fact, since I cannot even SEE iron sights without my glasses (codger that I am), and since I am unlikely to have my glasses on when I need a handgun, I am becoming less and less interested in iron sights.

Cordially, Jack

[Kilted Cossack]

jaydubya:

Thanks for the good word on CT. My interest in "newfangled" optics has existed for a long time, but I've pulled a Hamlet, just sitting there wondering about them. The successful use of "battery operated sights" in combat, in the hands of our soldiers and Marines, has gone a long way to convince me that there's something to it. As I mentioned, that "testbed" Glock is currently wearing a Burris FastFire, and initial impressions with it have been very positive.

[gentleman987]

I have the streamlight laser light combo and love it. I would never pay $300 for a laser and light but it was given to me

[Dgreno]

Shouldn't your sig line have something about "slayer of moose" as well?
Nah. Its actually word for word from a British news article...
Now back to the thread

[357sigRog]

I have a lasermax internal guide rod on my G33 and love it. It is very accurate. I purchased it early this year from Midway USA on sale for $249.99.
I like the internal because it doesn't change the concealability of the gun any.
I know it is replacing the original guide rod spring but I have never had a malfunction or jam of any kind with it.

[ljnowell]

http://i334.photobucket.com/albums/m417/ljnowell/pictures72008190.jpg

lasermax

[luft97]

I keep a Streamlight TLR-2 on my Glock 17. Best light/laser imo.

[theotherwaldo]

I like my G27/Lasermax set-up. I consider the Lasermax to be the back-up sighting system for transitional lighting situations when the sights are hard to see or when I can't bring the sights up to eye level.

The primary sights are the stock sights.