Cor Bon HP Vs. Gold Dot HP

As far as the two brands go, is there much of a difference between the two--specifically in 9mm for self-defense purposes out of a Kahr CW 9?

Any preferences? Thanks.

If you are referring to CorBon Conventional JHP +P line of
ammunition, then I would say the Gold Dots are superior. I
believe the Conventional JHPs offered by CorBon use Sierra
JHPs. In an unscientific test I did - I used a stack of wet
magazines with a variety of 7-8 different .45 ACP bullets
by Rem.195 gr. CCI Blazer 200 gr. , Win. 230 gr. , Win SXT
230 gr. as well as CorBon 165 gr.
& 185 gr. JHPs

The best penetration and expansions/weight retention were
both of the Win. the Blazer didn't expand much, the Rem mushroomed
just medium penetration.... the CorBon - both expanded so
much they were kinda wiry and flat with the least penetration.
I haven't used them since.

I''m about ready to pick up some pumpkins - fill em full of
water and put the plug back in duct tape it shut and
shoot em with various jHPs. I have some other JHps I'm
using now, including the Double Tap Gold Dot offerings
in 9mm LUger and .45 ACP Cheaper price than SPeer GDs btw.

Now, CorBon's DPX line with the all copper Barnes XPB
bullets are top shelf performers but very spendy. Gold DOts
are - argue how marginally effective Fed. HST or Rem Golden
Sabers might be, a great choice for HD/SD for the price.

Randall
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Yes, I am referring to the Cor Bon traditional +P HPs.

Let us know how the pumpkin tests go! :D

IMHO Cor-bon is too hot and too expensive. I carry Gold Dot in my Kel-Tec, Gold Dot has less recoil and cost less.

I never had a GDHP jam, I can't say that with Corbon.

Corbon are the hotrodders of the ammo world. I don't buy into the +P thing myself, so I pass on them.

I'd go with the regular 124 grain Gold Dots.

BlindJustice,

I hope you'll take pics and post them as part of a review. I believe this would be a very informative and entertaining thread. Action pics of pumpkins blowing up would be icing on the cake. Or whipped cream on the pumpkin pie! :D

"I'd go with the regular 124 grain Gold Dots."

+1 That is what is in my High Power. It's a t-series, which I bought in 1968 (at the MCRD Marine Exchange right here in Sandy Eggo) and carried on two flying cruises to Vietnam. I asked Stephen Camp what I should use in it for HD/SD. He recommended this load, which is used by the New York Transit Police (the NYPD uses the +p version). For range loads, I now use the truncated cone hardcast lead reloads (www.mastercast.net). I have fired off more than 5,000 of Mastercast's reloads, mostly .38 sp but a thousand were this 9mm load. Reliable, prompt and inexpensive. Especially inexpensive if you send your spent brass in exchange. If you do that, do it by USPS Priority Mail. I send off a thousand cases that way for nine bucks and change. I don't think you can beat that.

Cordially, Jack

as far as the two brands go, is there much of a difference between the two

price!!!

There was a test done by the local big city PD which was the most destructive factory ammo available for SD. They tried all the major brands but don't ask me the test criteria. I know very little about it.

One of the Det. Sgts. involved told me about the test and the results.

It seems that the top 2 finalists for this dubious honor is:


1. Winchester STHP

2. Speer GDHP

He told me they tried the 9MM, 40 S&W, 44 special, 45lc and the 45acp. I don't know the weight of the test bullets but the results were almost unamious.

Winchester STHP were head and shoulders the nrmber 1 most destructive of the ammo tested.

I have found this feller to be honest to the point destraction in the past and with no horse in this race, I believe his version of the results.

Based on this, my carry weapons are amost always loaded with either the STHP or the GDHP.

The only time they are not is when I head for the bush for hunting. 1 Nov is opening day.. :D

winchester JHP 147 grain, box of 50 for 20 bucks. i can't even notice the change in power going from 115 FMJ's to 147.

I'm sticking with GDHPs.

I know, there's a lot of us who shoot on a budget. I'm one of them. I reload just about anything that goes "bang!" in a handgun, and even then I know I'm better off with good factory rounds, for several reasons.

That being said, I find it a bit difficult to buy a few hundred rounds of the "exotic" high tech loads, just so I can shoot enough of them at the range to be confident in them. I can, however, shop for deals on top brand ammo - I mean the same class as the GDHPs. I'm way more inclined to shoot and carry something more in the $20/box of 50 range than the $20/pack of six or ten stuff.

I have 165 grain Gold Dot's in my XD-40.:D

I live only 30 miles or so from the SPeer plant in Lewiston ID. Doesn't make much difference 20 rd box of Gold Dot JHP 9MM runs $1+
per round at the local shops. Ouch Rem Golden saber runs about the
same per rd. Winchester SXT can be had in 50 rd box for a
more reasonable price when I can find it. I order Double Tap 9MMx19
from Double Tpa at better velocities than SPeer offers at $0.56 per rd.
Local shops don't stock Fed HST ???

I use Win WB JHPs from Wally World for range ammo.

Randall - pumpkins go on sale saturday.... heh
and I asked a friend with a digital camera to bring it
and his .380 and .44 mag.

Speer Gold Dots in 124gr +P. That is what I load in my G19.

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u87/RMTactical/Glock19.jpg

In my Hi-power I carry the 124gr +P Gold Dots. After getting this gun (a former military gun, with the older style feed ramp), and having feeding issues even with FMJs, I did some smoothing of the ramp with a file, and sandpaper. I made sure to stay away from the chamber of course, and the ramp is still 'humped'. Anyhow, now the gun will feed JHPs with no problem. I shot 50rds of standard 115gr Rem JHPs and some of my Gold Dots. They all fed fine. I'm not too worried about +P in the hi-power, the slide is stiff to rack so I know there's a good (not worn out) recoil spring, and I only shoot them enough to know they work and carry them the rest of the time.
I did order a new extractor spring though because I've been FTE's occassionally which has happened since I got the gun. Should be an easy fix though.

Corbon are the hotrodders of the ammo world. I don't buy into the +P thing myself, so I pass on them.


i would say that depends on what you are shooting. if you are shooting a mini-mouse gun, it needs all the help it can get. if you are shooting a 45 or 40, there is already enough to do the job. my 45, and my wifes 40 get normal sd rounds. but my .380's i buy the hottest things i can get my hands on. or load them to +p levels my self. but that may be opening a can of legal worms if i ever have to shoot someone.

All I kinow is,
if someone told me I was about to be shot with either one,
I'd run like hell!

Seriously, whatever works best in your gun.