Preparing for Obama - Buying Bulk 30 round Mags


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wacki
October 19, 2008, 08:46 PM
Please suggest places to purchase and manufacturers for AR15 and AK47 magazines. I'm buying in bulk before they become permanently banned. I can see myself dropping $500 on magazines alone. If anyone wants to go in on a group buy, I'm open for suggestions.

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rbernie
October 19, 2008, 09:36 PM
Copes Distributing (http://www.copesdistributing.net) has decent deals on C Products, USGI, and Magpul AR15 mags and both 20 rd and 30rd ComBloc AK mags. I've done a lot of business with them and never been dissatisfied.

Seafarer12
October 19, 2008, 09:37 PM
I see you sitting on a lot of mags. Usually gun control is an issue when nothing else is going on kind of like abortion. There are other things going on at the moment.

rbernie
October 19, 2008, 09:40 PM
I see you sitting on a lot of mags. A semiauto without mags is a heavy and complicated single shot that's slow to load. Given that, sitting on a bunch of mags isn't exactly on my list of bad places to be. :)

hags
October 19, 2008, 09:43 PM
Make no mistake about it, it's on his agenda. 500% ammo tax, forced confiscation, no semi-autos, with him, Pelosi and Reed it won't take long.

Seafarer12
October 19, 2008, 09:43 PM
A semiauto without mags is a heavy and complicated single shot that's slow to load. Given that, sitting on a bunch of mags isn't exactly on my list of bad places to be.

True but mags don't really wear out. The main cost of shooting now is ammo. Without ammo you have a heavy complicated club.

Seafarer12
October 19, 2008, 09:55 PM
Make no mistake about it, it's on his agenda. 500% ammo tax, forced confiscation, no semi-autos, with him, Pelosi and Reed it won't take long.
Oh my god the sky is falling. I would laugh if he won and was so busy taking care of broke stuff that no gun control ever came up. Mean while all the panic happy gun guys blew their retirement on mags, ammo and over priced crappy AK's. I mean look at the gun control laws in the past. Did they ever stop you from owning a gun. The assult weapons ban never stopped anyone from owning an ar15. You just couldn't own one with a flash hider. So the tacticool factor got knocked down a notch, big deal. The gun culture is too ingrained in America to totally ban guns. Make no mistake we need to stay on our toes but stockpiling is a bit much.

lionking
October 19, 2008, 10:08 PM
QuoteOh my god the sky is falling. I would laugh if he won and was so busy taking care of broke stuff that no gun control ever came up. Mean while all the panic happy gun guys blew their retirement on mags, ammo and over priced crappy AK's. I mean look at the gun control laws in the past. Did they ever stop you from owning a gun. The assult weapons ban never stopped anyone from owning an ar15. You just couldn't own one with a flash hider. So the tacticool factor got knocked down a notch, big deal. The gun culture is too ingrained in America to totally ban guns. Make no mistake we need to stay on our toes but stockpiling is a bit much.



I went to a gunshow today,one of the huge sellers that typical takes up 2 whole rows of the show had pictures of Obama on the guns with the caption "buy now before it is too late".


These are guys who mark up their sales way high typically,and one guy at the table I over heard saying "buy them now,once he is elected the prices will skyrocket"


Ya know,anybody that plans on gouging the prices just because he gets elected,not even a hint of legislation just because he gets elected can keep their friggin gun...........


Sometimes I wonder if some sellers are actually gonna vote Obama.:cuss:

skwab
October 19, 2008, 10:20 PM
You know Lion King that's not such a far fetched comment. I refuse to buy anything from anyone who tries to use scare tactics to push a sale.

And to reply to the OP - I just bought a few mags from AIM surplus - great prices, fast shipping.

Gord
October 19, 2008, 10:22 PM
AIM has Hungarian AK mags for $8.95 in quantity. I bought a dozen.

Rich_Lather
October 19, 2008, 10:23 PM
I see you sitting on a lot of mags. Usually gun control is an issue when nothing else is going on kind of like abortion. There are other things going on at the moment.

So true, and well stated.

Maybe reloading would be your best option, given the rumors:eek:. It's cheaper than 500 clips, and it may help you shoot better.

rbernie
October 19, 2008, 10:42 PM
mags don't really wear outThey absolutely do. The most common issue is feed lips that get bent, or (in the case of aluminum AR magazines) simply crack and break.

The assult weapons ban never stopped anyone from owning an ar15. You just couldn't own one with a flash hider. So the tacticool factor got knocked down a notch, big deal. Did you ever try buying a magazine greater than ten rounds in capacity between 1994 and 2004? Tell me how well THAT went. I don't much care about bayo lugs and flash hiders myself, but a > 10rd magazine ban is simply intolerable.

I'm not with 'the sky is falling' crowd, but I'm also old enough to remember that the way things are today is NOT how they were ten years ago.

Buy 'em cheap and stack 'em deep. You can always sell your excess in two years if you don't wind up wanting/needing them, but you'll be a whole lot sorrier if you want them in a couple of years and can't get them.

I over heard saying "buy them now,once he is elected the prices will skyrocket"And like it or not, that is a true statement. You may WISH that you had access to $15 PMAGs, come this time next year.

HR 1022 (http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h110-1022) is simply waiting for critical mass.

wacki
October 19, 2008, 10:49 PM
All of you doubters need to read the links in my signature. particularly the article by Professor David T Hardy covering what Obama did under the joyce foundation and bribing law reviews to say the 2A didn't apply to the average citizen. I can't delve too deep on this forum. We can continue this discussion over at Armed Polite Society. But you don't go to the extreme measures that Obama has in the past unless you have an extreme distaste for guns. He wasn't engaging in cheap political points. He was doing some very insidious behind the scenes attacks on our rights. I'm willing to bet big bucks that 30 rounds clips will banned if Obama/Biden gets elected. They are campaigning on that platform for crying out loud.

Take this convo over to APS. I'll gladly respond. But right now I want to know what the best 30 round clips are! As well as the best deals. thanks.

CRITGIT
October 19, 2008, 10:57 PM
Don't forget to stock up on Bibles too!:rolleyes: That's a function of the Executive Branch as well isn't it?
For every political action or mismanagement there's a political reaction.
After the last 8 yrs whad'ya expect...more of the same?:eek:

CRITGIT

cbrgator
October 19, 2008, 10:58 PM
The consensus is that Pmags are the best. And FYI, they are called magazines, not clips. People often confuse the two.

Seafarer12
October 19, 2008, 11:46 PM
They absolutely do. The most common issue is feed lips that get bent, or (in the case of aluminum AR magazines) simply crack and break.


I never said they didn't but you get quite a few loadings out of them before they do. I have mags that have been loaded 50 to 100 times and they still work just fine. I have more of a problem keeping ammo in them.

rbernie
October 20, 2008, 12:27 AM
I never said they didn't but you get quite a few loadings out of them before they do. Actually, you said:True but mags don't really wear out. To which I replied that they do. And they do.

I have mags that have been loaded 50 to 100 times and they still work just fine. For my range pistols and ARs, I'll run thru 50 load/unload cycles a month. But the real danger to the feed lips is being dropped or being stored loaded; these events are things that happen all the time and are unrelated to the magazine's duty cycle.

Oh my god the sky is falling. I would laugh if he won and was so busy taking care of broke stuff that no gun control ever came up. Mean while all the panic happy gun guys blew their retirement on mags, ammo and over priced crappy AK's. That is your viewpoint, and you're welcome to it. I'm certainly not spending my retirement on gun gear, but I'm also making sure that I have enough consumables (and magazines are consumables) to last me until my rifles themselves are no longer viable.

But all of this is thread veer from the OPs request for sources of supply; I'll speak no more of the politics of things and hope that everybody simply helps the OP find the mags he's looking for.

JT in VA
October 20, 2008, 12:42 AM
Crime control, which in some political circles means gun control, comes front and center regardless of crime trends when things are good, i.e. booming economy with thriving stock market and low unemployment. When things are rough, i.e. crashing stock market, rising inflation and unemployment, soaring energy costs, crime is not used to scare the public. Worried gun control will become an issue, wait for the economy to turn around.

Coronach
October 20, 2008, 12:59 AM
Really? I was under the impression that the grandfather of all gun contol laws came about in the midst of the Great Depression.

If we end up with riots or systemic violence due to a collapsed economy, we'll see what happens. My bet is that Something Must Be Done (tm), and that something will be Reasonable Gun Control (tm).

Mike

buckthedog
October 20, 2008, 01:48 AM
You might look at going to cproducts directly

http://www.cproductsllc.com/

Ignition Override
October 20, 2008, 02:11 AM
Sadly for so many, is it possible that the risks of lots of layoffs and worries about mutual funds/401Ks etc will hinder many gun owners from buying extra ammo or guns these days?

Maybe not, but if so, will that help to counteract the Obama/Schumer/Pelosi ('Jane Fonda') factor, as far as price increases go? If the financial system continues to go downhill, Congress could be quite busy for a while, as so many Democrats were against increased oversight of Fannie Mae, F. Mac etc years ago, and pressuring these quasi-govt firms into very risky loan practices, knowing that the taxpayer could foot the bill. Socialism in the making.

Some guys feel that the NRA's lobbying power can prevent a large ammo tax or another AWB.
I'm still relatively new to guns, so what do the experienced shooters believe?

ramis
October 20, 2008, 02:46 AM
Getting back to the OP.....

Check out this link.

bravo company (http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/AR15-magazines-beta-s/21.htm)

hags
October 20, 2008, 05:10 AM
If we end up with riots or systemic violence due to a collapsed economy, we'll see what happens. My bet is that Something Must Be Done (tm), and that something will be Reasonable Gun Control (tm).

If the economy collapses it'll be by design. The more the idiots in Washington screw with it the worse it'll be.

Any version of an AWB will be far more reaching than the last one. You can take that to your state owned bank.
Kiss the dollar standard good bye and say hello to a U.N. type gun control. ;)

hags
October 20, 2008, 06:45 AM
If we end up with riots or systemic violence due to a collapsed economy, we'll see what happens. My bet is that Something Must Be Done (tm), and that something will be Reasonable Gun Control (tm).

I know it's way off topic but you're not likely to see riots or systemic violence unless McCain wins. Which, with the silent majority in this country is still possible.

leadcounsel
October 20, 2008, 08:29 AM
Ever tried to buy a silencer, full auto weapon, or short barreled rifle? Very expensive and/or near impossible and a HUGE paperwork trail and waiting period.

Now imagine a handgun that costs X10 of it's current price!!!

How about ammunition that costs $50 per bullet!!!!

ImARugerFan
October 20, 2008, 10:34 AM
Make no mistake about it, it's on his agenda. 500% ammo tax, forced confiscation, no semi-autos, with him, Pelosi and Reed it won't take long.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahhahahahahahahahahahaha.

Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow
October 20, 2008, 10:50 AM
Preparing for Obama

Is that the latest named hurricane or something?

J/K. I don't think it's a bad idea to stock up on mags - all it would take is one MPS and Obama would be pushing for massive gun control - after all, he's wants to be a two-termer, and if that's what's popular, he will try it.

hags
October 20, 2008, 10:56 AM
Quote:
Make no mistake about it, it's on his agenda. 500% ammo tax, forced confiscation, no semi-autos, with him, Pelosi and Reed it won't take long.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahhahahahahahahahahahaha.

Check his record in his "home" state of Illinois. Maybe read this: http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/10-15-2008/0004904149&EDATE=

A few years ago $4 a gallon gas was unimaginable. Some still don't believe that the federal government will buy/run/own banks.
Take a look around you. :D

jeff-10
October 20, 2008, 11:03 AM
The "buy before it is banned" is one of the gun seller's favorite lines. I prefer to spend my money on guns I want, not ones that will possibly be banned at some later date.

Hoppy590
October 20, 2008, 11:05 AM
I would laugh if he won and was so busy taking care of broke stuff that no gun control ever came up

im laughing now. because thats a laughable statement.

hes against us 100%. and mccain is against us, id say about 75%. its only going to get worse, before/if it gets better at all.

the truly laughable idea is that anything will be grandfathered.

hags
October 20, 2008, 11:11 AM
The "buy before it is banned" is one of the gun seller's favorite lines. I prefer to spend my money on guns I want, not ones that will possibly be banned at some later date.


I would agree with you. I don't play that crap and the majority of my customers are too smart for someone to sell that to them.
However, the majority of "ban eligable" sales recently are for just that reason based on feedback from paying customers.

DrPerry
October 20, 2008, 11:19 AM
http://www.44mag.com

Here's my .02 cents

RP88
October 20, 2008, 11:26 AM
I think some of you pessimists who don't seem to give a ---- about trying to do anything about it (especially considering that nobody seems to care about how far gun rights have come in the last 12 years) should go ahead and vote for Obama. I mean, with your mindsets, it would seem better to ease into the socialism so that you arent surprised and overwelmed by all of it at once, right? :rolleyes:

on topic: Bravocompanyusa has a great deal on AR GI mags with magpul followers. 130 bucks for ten iirc. AIM's hungarian AK mag deal is the best so far. New hungarian AK mags, Cope's has the five and ten pack deal that are great for the money, but the slightly worn AIM ones are much more cost-effective.

Eightball
October 20, 2008, 11:36 AM
I bought a few PMAGs from eguns.com. Good place.

EShell
October 20, 2008, 11:50 AM
My money says things will "change" if we end up with B. Hussein Obama on office, and not for the better. :(

Restrictions/bans on firearms & mags at least, ammo wouldn't surprise me at all. If all that were to surprise you, well Mr. Ostrich, I sure don't know why . . . :banghead:

Even w/o "His" influence, at today's prices vs yesterday's prices, my very modest pile of ammo is earning double the percentage of my best 401k portfolio item. . . Every time I buy a case of ammo, I wonder if I should have spent that kind of money right now and feel a little guilty. As little as a year later, I can look at current pricing and smile to myself, glad I did. Not to mention all the desirable ammo, like LC M855, that is around now but can/will quickly dry up. I still wish I had bought more of the LC when it was cheap in bulk, as well as the Aussie F-4.

A case isn't all that much ammo when you're talking rattle guns. I can take the wife & daughter out for a day of banging steel and recreational CQB and burn 800-1,000 .223s through the three or four AR-15s we'd be running w/o batting an eye. Girls are terrible about economizing on ammo - better to shoot things at least twice, it seems. . .:evil:

The only thing I really regret buying were full cap mags during the ban, which looked like it might be extended and made it seem like "now or never". I paid an inflated price for mags that now sell for 30% of what I paid for many of mine. Good quality/condition milsurp 30 round AR mags were $30-35-40/each. Now, they're down around $10-15. Guess what will happen to full cap mag prices when any sort of legislation is passed?

IMHO, first/now make sure you have the scary looking rifle(s) you want, then stock up on suitable mags ASAP, then look at laying back some ammo.

wingman
October 20, 2008, 11:57 AM
[QUOTE]The gun culture is too ingrained in America to totally ban guns. Make no mistake we need to stay on our toes but stockpiling is a bit much./QUOTE]


Famous last words it can't happen here, Americans would elected Hitler if the proper money was produced, as an old timer I once maintained the idea America as I knew it could not be damaged by one man now I no longer hold that belief America is weak at this point the far left is circling like hungry buzzards so please raise your head out of the sand because it can happen here.

Darthbauer
October 20, 2008, 12:02 PM
To the OP, PMags all the way.

Tarvis
October 20, 2008, 12:17 PM
I bought some mags from CMMG, seem to work good. I haven't run a whole lot of rounds through them, but for $10 a pop (and you don't have to buy $1000 worth) they were hard to pass up.

Sam Adams
October 20, 2008, 03:31 PM
Usually gun control is an issue when nothing else is going on kind of like abortion. There are other things going on at the moment.

The 1934 NFA passed and was signed into law in the middle of the Depression, the year after FDR (hawk, spit) came into office.

This guy is, if elected, going to have a big majority in the House and possibly a filibuster-proof Senate. Not exactly a recipe for good gun legislation. Say hello to AWB-II, with no sunset and no grandfather clause. Me, I'd rather have the guns, mags and ammo now, rather than look back and say "gee, I should've bought x, y & z back when I had the chance."

I'd get to the point of 20-30 good-quality mags per gun. Don't speculate and buy mags for guns you don't own, unless you're simply waiting for one that you already ordered to be delivered. 20 mags at $15 a pop isn't a fortune, but they'll last for quite a while.

gopguy
October 20, 2008, 05:17 PM
I see you sitting on a lot of mags. Usually gun control is an issue when nothing else is going on kind of like abortion. There are other things going on at the moment.

I see a lot of similarities to 1992 already, the press has already begun to beat the gun control drum expecting a Democrat Congress and President to act...I would buy what you want and need now. I have been doing so for months.



http://news.yahoo.com/s/usnw/20081009/pl_usnw/since_assault_weapons_ban_lifted__at_least163_dead_185_wounded__15_police_officers_dead__23_wounded

hags
October 20, 2008, 05:27 PM
You're all being mean spirited and divisive, just like the McCain campaign.

JWarren
October 20, 2008, 05:47 PM
You're all being mean spirited and divisive

I'm OK with that.


-- John

Jimfern
October 20, 2008, 06:33 PM
If you feel strongly that some items, such as magazines, will be banned, you have an opportunity to buy now while they are cheap and easy to come by, and then sell them in the future if they become expensive and hard to buy. It would appear to be a win-win for everyone on both sides of the fence.

The buyers of today make a great return on their investment in inventory and the buyers of tomorrow still have access to these items.

TAB
October 20, 2008, 06:39 PM
The buyers of today make a great return on their investment in inventory and the buyers of tomorrow still have access to these items.


that is assuming they still allow the transfer of "preban" stuff... If we get another AWB, I would bet that they will make it a crime to transfer preban stuff.

Seafarer12
October 20, 2008, 06:48 PM
The buyers of today make a great return on their investment in inventory and the buyers of tomorrow still have access to these items.

Thats assuming prices go up. I am sure there are a bunch of guys sitting on 30 dollar AR mags that thought they were a good deal and thought they could make some money in the future.

Wolfgang
October 20, 2008, 06:50 PM
Look at the change in this country just this year----and obamma ain't in yet

Marcus5aurelius
October 20, 2008, 07:00 PM
Can they really issue confiscations even when it's straight from the amendments? If armagedon comes I'm hiding my AK under the floorboards I dont care lol

RP88
October 20, 2008, 07:23 PM
Say hello to AWB-II, with no sunset and no grandfather clause. Me, I'd rather have the guns, mags and ammo now, rather than look back and say "gee, I should've bought x, y & z back when I had the chance."

if there is no grandfather clause, then why stock up on it? Oh wait...the revolution. I forgot.

Sheesh. People don't even know what AWB will be drafted. It could be the same one from Clinton, it could be the Clinton one with a by-name banning, or it can be an outright ban on every non-sporting gun in the country with no grandfathering. Wait and see before you start going crazy. or better yet, write a good letter and send it to your reps and sen's. That would do much better good. Write other people's sen's and reps while you're at it.

lionking
October 20, 2008, 08:23 PM
QuoteGetting back to the OP


well being political is on topic,because of the "getting ready for Obama" and "buy now before you can't buy them anymore"


Look,I'm not saying that a person shouldn't buy now,but buy now because you want one now,don't be scared into going into hock blowing rent or the mortgage to get that AR just because he gets elected and any dealer who jacks up their price just because of Nov 4 deserves to rot sitting on their guns.


I just went to the grocery store,a 12 pack is now a 8 pack same price.Just went to get my oil changed at a Honda dealership,they closed earlier come to find to cut costs and laid off some people.


My friend just got laid off from Cadillac after being with them 10 years.Come the next year or 2 you might be selling that AR at a reduced price to make ends meet even if it has been banned.


Come next year you may be freaking out over the cost of a pair of jeans or a pack of chicken instead of a AR or pack of ammo.All Im saying is yeah it is possible that a Dem controlled Wash DC might ban them,but don't let these wild scare assumption make you blow your debt out.

I see people buying left and right on gunbroker all the time,$2000 Lugers,$800 milsurps (and I have too but I don't have a family) and I wonder how much they'll be buying in the next couple years?What do you think will happen to the price of those guns when nobody is buying?

lionking
October 20, 2008, 08:27 PM
the 1934 ban was due more to alchohol prohibition and the crime it caused (think scarface,pretty boy Floyd).

Which is another issue,the war on drugs is a scam creating violence just like the alchohol prohibition.


as long as there is a war on some kind of morality subject that subject won't get better but will continue to create side effects just like drug profiting makes a gang do a drive by with a AK.

FMJMIKE
October 20, 2008, 08:36 PM
I can't afford more mags thanks to George Bush and Republican policies.....Thanks Dubya..............:mad:

Art Eatman
October 20, 2008, 08:51 PM
Mostly poly tickles...

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