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spuscg
October 20, 2008, 05:06 PM
what do i need to know. cleaning methods, best caps, best bp substitute (yeah have to be 21 for black powder) its a .44 1851 navy

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DixieTexian
October 20, 2008, 06:16 PM
777 for the best sub for beginers. Much more forgiving as far as cleaning goes.

K.A.T.
October 20, 2008, 07:26 PM
Check out "Black Powder Essentials" at the top of the page.

mykeal
October 21, 2008, 08:14 AM
Yes, 777 is easier to clean than real black powder, but that's not necessarily an advantage. I suggest that learning to to a good thorough cleaning job rather than just a quick easy one is better, unless, of course, all you are ever going to shoot is 777.

777 also has compression issues - too much and you'll get failures to fire. It can be tricky to get that part right. Better perhaps to learn the rest of the bp routine before adding that to the mix.

Finally, 777's higher pressure curve produces a different result than the other powders; once you've worked up your 777 load the value is of no use if you should need to switch powders. If that's all you're going to shoot, fine, but I'd think it would be better to get your gun's optimum load using one of the milder powders first.

My suggestion, in lieu of real black, would be Pyrodex. It has the same cleaning issues and almost the same pressure curve as real black.

gru556
October 21, 2008, 10:10 AM
:) I use pryodex P with good results and clean up is good with soap and water.
I have two ROA in stainless so that helps

Mike 56
October 21, 2008, 12:36 PM
I think mykeal is right although 777 is essayer to clean Pyrodex and real black are essayer to use. When you are starting out it is best to keep it simple. Shooting cap and ball revolvers is a lot of fun and not that hard to do. You will get the hang of it in no time. Try to find someone that shoots black powder to show you the ropes. Locate a black powder group near you most of the time they well be more than happy to help get you started. If you can't find anyone to help you just read the the instructions and take your time. A good book to read is Lyman's Black Powder Handbook & Loading Manual it has a lot of information on black powder shooting and list about every load you can think of.

Have fun, Be safe
Mike

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