[t george]

what is the down side or draw back of shooting 45 colt in a 454 casull or a 454 in a 460 mag or any other instance of shooting a shorter bullet in a gun that is made for the longer cartridge? i know that it can and will leave a carbon ring but is there any thing else to worry about such as wear on the gun or diminishing preformance in velocity or accuracy?

[LightningMan]

Hello, I don't think there's a real down side to shooting .45 colts in a .454 casull as its no different than shooting a .38 special in a .357 mag. The only thing you have to remember is to clean the guns cylinder chambers really well as lead & fouling will build up at the point of the end of the shorter case length. If you shoot a lot of .45 colt ammo and then try and chamber a .454 round it most likely won't go into the chamber. If you force it in, you risk possable damage to your gun as you could get increased pressure due to the chamber being overly tight. LM

[Deanimator]

None, if you clean your firearms. If you don't, you'll end up with a ring of fouling in the chambers caused by the shorter rounds.

Clean your firearms, regardless of what length cases you use.

I shoot almost nothing but .38 Specials in my .357s and .44 Specials in my .44 Magnums. and have NO problems AT ALL. But then I clean my guns.

[t george]

cool thats what i was wondering. I too clean my guns when they need itso i geuss i really dont have any thing to worry about

[bobotech]

The only thing I have heard that can be an issue is bullet jump in particular when shooting the 45colt out of the 460 Smith.

There is a long jump from the shell to the forcing cone and from what some people say, accuracy can suffer.

I do not know if that is entirely true or not but that is what some people told me when I was looking at getting a 460 Smith a while back, I ended up going with a much less expensive 454Casull Super Redhawk.

[t george]

bobotech with the bullet jump do u think there is any chance of wear on the forcing cone? i am in the same perdicament as you were and i dont know if i really need a 460. the 454 is mostlikley big enough for any thing i would ever do with it. how much more recoil do you think the 454 has compared to say a hot loaded 357 in same size gun? or a 44 mag?

[krs]

If the pistol is in time, that is if the cylinders all lock up aligned with the barrel as they should I doubt there'd be much of an accuracy problem in a revolver.

Bullet jump is one of the factors that benchrest rifle shooters experiment with, trying to achieve the absolute maximum accuracy that their rifles can give them. Seating the bullet out into the lands or seating deeper to force a jump to the lands each have believers thinking that their conclusions are what works best for their combinations. But that is a precision accuracy game and revolver shooting is not so much about that level of accuracy.

[s4s4u]

the 454 is mostlikley big enough for any thing i would ever do with it. how much more recoil do you think the 454 has compared to say a hot loaded 357 in same size gun? or a 44 mag?


The 454 has killed everything on this planet, even elephant. The 460 is a marketing ploy geared for those folks that have compensation issues, y'know the Ferarri thing. In a like sized revolver the 454 will feel about 3x the hottest 357 you could load, or 1-1/2x a hot 44. Handguns chambered for the 454 are heavier than those in 357 so there really is no comparison. The Casull is a handful, but not abusive IMO. The 460 is brutal without a brake, and any revolver you need a brake on does make for an affective hunting tool.

Accuracy is affected with the shorter 45 LC in the 460 and 454, and if you handload it is better to load down the full sized 454 to 45 LC velocities.

[cortez kid]

Ummm, ok, I guess. Although when I was in a Ferrari, I was very impressed. Also having 3 X frames myself, I'm also impressed with the weapon system. Haven't seen too many owners of the X frame complain about it, so it might be half way descent. If you want a round that delivers the kind of performance the .460 does, I can't see any "compensation" issues. Maybe you got to own one to understand.:rolleyes:
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[t george]

lol the 454 maybe bigger than anything i will ever use it for, but i dont think that need is the only determining factor. for some reason in the last few weeks i have been intriged by these rounds. I do want to hunt with my revolver, and for my west texas needs a 44 mag is probly all i need. but i think that i would simply enjoy the bigger rounds at the range, and i reload so cost is not a very big deal. I like ferraris, but there a little bit out of my budget! im not sold on the x frame yet but the 5 inch 460 has made an apperence on the short/long list:D