Thinking of buying a 1858 bp.


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Herzby
October 24, 2008, 03:58 PM
I have always wanted a Remington 1858, and started looking around.

One of my friends thinks it is a really bad idea to get a Remington 1858 BP saying that they aren't anything more then a show case item.

I would like to know what some of you who own a Remington 1858 has to say about it.

I am a Surveyor and am out in the woods a lot and would like to carry something that it functional.

Well, enough of this just give me your take on all this.

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Smokin_Gun
October 24, 2008, 04:31 PM
:cool:Tell your friend to look att these...
Non show case 1858, .44's, .36, 1863 .31 Remingtons
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/Smokin_Gun/07-11-08_0622.jpg
Shooters
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/Smokin_Gun/FireShow.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/Smokin_Gun/SassyTarget0001.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/Smokin_Gun/08-13-08_1854.jpg
This one is for sale1858 Pietta .44 good cond. $200 shipped with USPS M.O. to me.
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/Smokin_Gun/09-16-08_1626.jpg
This Ol' Rem is a Presentation /shooter ifin I wanted to. But ya see I gort other Rems and More Colts.
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/Smokin_Gun/ASMcasedSet1858REM.jpg
I thinks yer friend is mistaken...HeeHee!

SG:cool:

Voodoochile
October 24, 2008, 05:02 PM
If you are looking at the Pietta, Uberti or other manufacturers of reproduction Remington '58's then they aren't just for looks, I have both makes & they shoot very well for me as well as others here.

An orriginal Remington I wouldn't want to shoot because all the replicas out there are so cheap by comparrison & an orriginal has a history in it's own.

sundance44s
October 24, 2008, 05:36 PM
I say buy one load it up and let your friends shoot it .....that`ll change their minds.
As far as carrying it in the woods and such ...with the right caps and balls ....you`ll have one very depenable revolver .

rjsixgun
October 24, 2008, 05:54 PM
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c395/RJSIXGUN/Rem1858Pistols.jpg

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c395/RJSIXGUN/Rem1858Pistols1.jpg

Yeup they all work very well!

Calibre44
October 24, 2008, 05:57 PM
Don't think ... just do it!!- you won't regret it!

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg230/woodsy_2008/Guns/bisleyfeb05004.jpg

mykeal
October 24, 2008, 06:02 PM
First of all, do you have any experience carrying a revolver?

A bp revolver, such as the 1858 Remington New Army, is the same as a modern cartridge revolver in that it can injure and even kill. It is not a "show piece" (although, SG - that last one qualifies as a barbecue gun...).

They are more difficult to maintain and load than a modern cartridge revolver, however. Those of us who have learned to use them well take a great deal of pride in having done so, and with good reason. Conversely, those who have not succeeded sometimes tend to belittle the accomplishment as a means of overcoming their embarrassment over their failure.

That might explain the reason your friend would make such a statement.

Shultzhaus
October 24, 2008, 06:11 PM
I love the looks and feel of my '60 Colt army, but my '58 Rem is my real range work horse. Go for it, and make that "friend" envious.

Are you quite sure you wouldn't want the bucket moved a little closer? * Quite sure!

Chawbaccer
October 24, 2008, 06:33 PM
Don't try to fit in with your friends taste in guns, or even women either.

the-ghost
October 24, 2008, 07:06 PM
your friend has no idea what he's talking about. which isn't uncommon in this day and age.

if you want one get it, don't let you friends stop you from trying new things. somehow people have this idea that since these are replicas, or 150 year old designs that they are no longer effective weapons. bottom line these are weapons and should be respected just like any other firearm.

BHP FAN
October 24, 2008, 07:10 PM
Cabela's seems to have the best prices right now.

armoredman
October 24, 2008, 08:21 PM
Just got my 1858 Sheriff model from Cabelas. haven't had it out, but it certainly seems like a fine quality sidearm!

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/1858newarmy.jpg

Voodoochile
October 24, 2008, 09:58 PM
Hey armoredman, you need to get that beauty out & dirty some, you're making mine jelouse because mine have not only been shot but modified to my liking & although still looks great she doesn't have that new Smell any more ;)

http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/7323983/aview/Custom_Pietta__58.jpg

the-ghost
October 25, 2008, 12:14 AM
my little 58 the day i got her...
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l242/archer_007/001.jpg

Smokin_Gun
October 25, 2008, 01:33 AM
:evil:Mykeal I am glad you think that fancy Rem is "Hot"! HeeHee!
It is not a "show piece" (although, SG - that last one qualifies as a barbecue gun...).
These are BBQ guns:
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/Smokin_Gun/10-05-08_1217.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/Smokin_Gun/10-02-08_1649.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/Smokin_Gun/09-19-08_1135.jpg
And Happy All Hallows Eve
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/Smokin_Gun/CrittersNpeople/10-24-08_1612.jpg

SG

Hellgate
October 25, 2008, 02:48 AM
I would not rely on one for a life or death situation until I became very proficient in ensuring reliable functioning. As a plinking gun and popping off at squirrels or something it would be fine but if you have it for feral dogs, feral people then I'd get a centerfire gun. I feel confident with mine but I've shot them regularly for 40 years. I used my US Marshall .44 for finishing a deer this fall but I wouldn't carry it to ward off a doper.

PeashooterJoe
October 25, 2008, 10:53 AM
I feel confident that once loaded and carried, worked 150 years or so still works. Loaded a clunker for 6 months sealed caps and used card, lube pill, fired with out a hesitation. There have been several accidents where originals were fired 50 to 75 years later. SG you look like the Smokeless Grim Reaper..:)..Your mileage may vary..PeashooterJoe..

Voodoochile
October 25, 2008, 10:55 AM
SG you gona scare the day lights out of all those Trick-O-Treaters lookin like that.. :D

Hellgate:
You are right, if you have a more modern weapon that is chambered a reliable defensive round then that'd be the weapon to use for a SD situation but in the hands like ours these are just as viable a weapon as any out there & if the situation arrised I wouldn't hessitate to use any of mine, I just thank God I've never had to.

jmaubin
October 25, 2008, 11:55 AM
Herzby

Don't give up the dream. I am also saving my pennys for one as well. That is after I finish the Dixie Cub kit I am working on now. I hope to have the funds or a present by Christmas. Keep your dream alive. For whats its worth I would buy a Pietta or Uberti

smiles you will love it

Hellgate
October 25, 2008, 01:51 PM
For loading and keeping it handy long term "just in case", I would be sure there is no residual oil in the chambers or nipples from the last cleaning, nor would I use a lube wad. I would want the powder DRY and the flash hole clear before capping. The old timers did not use lube wads or over ball grease since they figured that you shot the gun dry and then either pulled a second loaded gun or a big knife/sword to continue the fight. The guns were generally reloaded far from the fray. Keep in mind the "six shooters" were a huge leap in firepower from the single shots they replaced so six shots in a row was expected to be enough to settle things therefore all the lubes and greases we use to keep them going for 30 shots in a row was unheard of and a recent practice now that the guns are being used for repeated shots in six stage CAS matches.

rjsixgun
October 25, 2008, 02:07 PM
A good shot of Brake Cleaner will get the grease and oil out of your chambers and nipples if you want to keep it loaded for extended periods. And you can melt a candle and put a drop or 2 of was over the ball and nipple to seal it from moisture. But an Over sized ball say .457 should seal it just as good.

Also I have accidently left my revolver loaded for a month with Lubbed wads, (my own make) and It shot fine. See I loaded my gun with the entent on going to the range, but then an emergency came up and I left the gun LOADED in holster. I knew it was loaded but never got the time to shoot it out for a month:banghead:

Perk
October 25, 2008, 02:21 PM
Am sure some of these fellers were familiar with '58 Remmies. Couple of 'em are still around...

http://oldfortyfives.com/thoseoldwesterns.htm

Calibre44
October 25, 2008, 02:26 PM
Heay SG ... cool outfit man!:)

BHP FAN
October 26, 2008, 06:52 AM
Voodoo Chile,you make those dump pouches for your cylinders?Them are too cool.

Voodoochile
October 26, 2008, 07:07 AM
No I bought them from BigBadGun http://www.geocities.com/bigbadgun56/

He does really good leather work & is quite resonable in price too.

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