Best Bang for The Buck


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ROVERMAN
October 25, 2008, 11:24 PM
O.K. Gang, I know this is going to open up a whole can of opinionated worms but what double stack .45 ACP is the best all around value in a full size gun. Reliable, accurate and like a good old hunting dog will never let you down?:confused:

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MacTech
October 25, 2008, 11:29 PM
The two most common suggestions here are the Glock 21 and the Springfield XD .45, both great guns, reliable, soft recoil, and decent capacity mags, the G21's grip is rather meaty though, if you have big hands, give it a try, the XD has a less girthy grip, and a more 1911-style angle

either one fits your requirements

NELSONs02
October 25, 2008, 11:37 PM
Double stack 1911. Not cheap but neither is a good hunting dog.

http://www.paraord.com/new/product.php#cat_6

gbelleh
October 26, 2008, 11:45 AM
Glock XD, or check out the FNP .45.
For a little more, HK.

Rossshady120
October 26, 2008, 11:54 AM
bersa .45 and they make a 1911 style .45 too single stack i think though

pogo2
October 26, 2008, 12:18 PM
I'd choose the H&K USP 45 full size. Mine cost $550 used, holds 12+1 rounds, is built like a tank, and has never failed me.

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o25/pogo2/HKUSP4570.jpg

moooose102
October 26, 2008, 03:15 PM
my taurus 24/7 has been very good to me. 12+1 rounds, 2 magazines, internal lock, 2nd strike capability. ploymer frame. pretty good trigger. i really do not care all that much for the sights though. i prefer the three dot system in stead of the "straight 8" setup these have.

ljnowell
October 26, 2008, 04:12 PM
http://i334.photobucket.com/albums/m417/ljnowell/pictures72008183.jpg

benderx4
October 26, 2008, 06:23 PM
1. HK USP 45

2. XD 45

My USP45 sleeps right beside me and I've got another one tucked away upstairs. Incredible weapon!

Monkeybear
October 26, 2008, 06:45 PM
FNP .45 (http://www.fnhusa.com/le/products/firearms/model.asp?fid=FNF020&gid=FNG001&mid=FNM0061)

There are a few online reviews (http://www.fnhusa.com/le/news/reviews.asp) you can read as well. They basically say its an excellent gun but a little large.


http://www.fnhusa.com/support/images/dynamic/m/FNM0061mb.png

Defense Minister
October 26, 2008, 07:01 PM
Like you said, you'll get lots of opinions here, and mine isn't worth any more than anyone elses. That said, I didn't see anyone mention the Smith & Wesson M&P .45, so I wanted to give it it's due. I don't have the .45 version, but I have the full size and compact in .40, and both have been great so far.

Keeping specifically to "Bang for the Buck", S&W is currently running a promotional rebate on the M&P pistols where they are offering $50 back or two free magazines with the purchase of the pistol. At my local Sportsman's Warehouse, that meant I could walk out the door with a brand new M&P .45 for $499...and two days ago, I almost did. ;)

rellascout
October 26, 2008, 11:11 PM
+1 for the FN comes with 3 mags and can be had NIB for less than $500

The H&K is expensive and overrated.

The XD is fine but does not feel as nice in the hand. The FN feels very thin for a double stack 45.

f4t9r
October 26, 2008, 11:18 PM
The H&K is expensive and overrated.

I will agree with the expensive part.
The better things in life come with a price tag.

kitsapcharly
October 27, 2008, 12:34 AM
The Xd-45c fits most people's hands very well. My hands are about average size and my XD fits me perfectly and points as well as my own finger. I shoot this better than anything else and it's my favorite gun.:D

1SOW
October 27, 2008, 01:47 AM
I shoot in a USPSA league with my son. He shoots an XD Service model that has shot at least thousand rounds without a single problem of ANY kind. I have small hands and a short reach. His XD double stack fits me nicely.
The pistol is not a tack driver but, he is always in the top two shooters in limited10. It points well, is reliable and shoots fast.

That FN is a good looking gun.

outerlimit
October 27, 2008, 02:32 AM
My short list, in not any particular order, for best value in a full size double stack .45acp would be:

FNP 45
Para Ordnance P14
CZ-97 (I can't believe nobody mentioned this yet)
Glock 21
Springfield XD45
S&W M&P 45
Kimber Ten II (if you find one for cheap)
Taurus 24/7

Monkeybear
October 27, 2008, 03:51 AM
As much as I love CZs and as much as I want a CZ97BD I can't recommend it as a "best value" gun.

Its huge at 2 1/2lbs, $650, and only holds 10 rounds.

Elvishead
October 27, 2008, 04:53 AM
NELSONs02
New Member



Join Date: 10-25-08
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 8 Double stack 1911. Not cheap but neither is a good hunting dog.

http://www.paraord.com/new/product.php#cat_6


Anybody under 6' need not apply.

Grip is huge!!!!

I hold my head in shame, because I'm going to say Glock, or yuck!

CPshooter
October 27, 2008, 06:24 AM
XD compact or used USP compact (or full-size). I love Glocks, but not their .45s.

powermad
October 27, 2008, 07:42 AM
A lot of factors come into play when choosing a sidearm.
How it points, trigger, ergonomics, features, reliability, looks and cost.
After a couple months of looking for a hi-cap .45 I settled on the FNP-45
For anyone looking to check one out, go to the FNH site and go to the dealer locater. I found a dealer that was local and he had several of the FNP lineup.

I looked at a bunch of .45's and shot a few at the range. I never shot the FN before buying it though. Once I picked it up I knew it was the one.
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m178/powermad69/P1010067.jpg

Myself I like DA/SA pistols. You can also get the FN with a manual safety if you prefer to carry at condition 1.
The decocker was just fine for me. DA pull isn't that bad, I haven't measured that yet but SA popped at 4.2 pounds. Good enough for me.
I wear a size 10 Mechanix glove and am using the arched backstrap on it. It seems to conceal well with a long shirt on me. I'm 6'2" and about 170 lbs.

Being a new pistol holsters are few but there are some if ya look.
Bladetech and Crossbreed have them.
I am liking this one from a local company. It comes with clips to carry it IWB or OWB
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m178/powermad69/DA3.jpg

Bowhunter57
October 27, 2008, 08:06 AM
Nobody seems to mention the Ruger P90. :rolleyes: Ruger has a very reliable, accurate and reasonably priced line of semi-autos. :)

Good luck with your choices!
Good hunting, Bowhunter57

JaxNovice
October 27, 2008, 08:08 AM
Fnp-45 or the Charles Daly M-5

Monkeybear
October 29, 2008, 11:30 PM
It seems to conceal well with a long shirt on me.

Powermad- What kind of holster do you use? I would love to be able to carry around a DA/SA .45 pistol like that for personal protection.

wditto
October 29, 2008, 11:59 PM
no one mentions the Bul M5 , great pistol and reasonable

powermad
October 30, 2008, 06:31 AM
Right now I am packing it in a nimrodpacks holster for right now. It's not the best but will work for now.
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m178/powermad69/P1010083.jpg
It does make it handy to pack to work though.
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m178/powermad69/P1010098.jpg
The one I posted earlier is from http://www.tedblockerholsters.com/index.php
I still haven't gotten around to driving over there to check one out.

I am also seriously considering a crossbreed supertuck or snapslide.
Guys on the fnforum say that they are excellent rigs.
Holsters are as bad as choosing a gun. Next thing ya know you have a drawer full of em.

possum
October 30, 2008, 09:57 AM
bang for your buck , too me means a gun with a lot of value and performance for a nice, reasonable price tag. i would have to reccomend the xd .45 or the glock 21, you can't go wrong with either one of them and personally i would take the xd.

Art SC
December 19, 2008, 10:22 AM
"Best Bang for the Buck."

WARNING: Strong Opinion Follows!

If that phrase is defined as the highest possible quality in workmanship, dependability, manufacturer support, accuracy, magazine capacity, features offered in the box, features offered on the gun, aesthetics, price ($500) and over-all shooting enjoyment value...

...Well, then I'm sorry, but I don't see ANYTHING out there that can presently beat the FNP-45 USG!

The HK might come close in most of the categories mentioned, but the price issue alone automatically throws it out of contention as it is in the $700+ range and only comes with 2 smaller capacity magazines.

Note: There are some that say the FNP-45's seem "large." This is a designed double-stacked 15+1 .45ACP combat weapon made to be used by law enforcement and the military. It ain't ever gonna feel like a sleek 9-10 round 1911 race gun!

Please note the weapon in my hand. I have size 8.5 hands, which are only slightly larger than average, and it fits me perfectly.

(Men's Surgical Glove sizes: <7.0 = Small, 7.0-8.0 = Medium, 8.5-9.0 = Large, >9.0 = Extra Large)

http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp347/ArtSC/FNP45/IMG_0765.jpg

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1SOW
December 20, 2008, 12:47 AM
MacTech/possum +1: The XD Service-13rds-is very reliable.

matai
December 20, 2008, 12:54 AM
How do you guys think the FNP 45 compares to the Para Hi-Cap 1911? I'm in a very similar situation myself.

Art SC
December 21, 2008, 11:13 PM
How do you guys think the FNP 45 compares to the Para Hi-Cap 1911? I'm in a very similar situation myself.

Never held or fired a Para, but I do know these facts:

Para has a slightly lighter trigger (2.5-3.0 Vs 4.0 for the FNP USG)
Para comes with only one 14 rd magazine Vs FNP with three 14 rd mags
Para can easily costs TWICE as much as an FNP
Para does not have the same service reputation FNH has

Thus, everything else being supposedly equal, the "Bang for the Buck" would still go to the FNP-45 USG.

Boats
December 22, 2008, 12:25 AM
The finer things in firearms have sweet triggers. That all but rules out the H&K USP as one of those things.

J.R.W.
December 22, 2008, 01:13 AM
Never held or fired a Para, but I do know these facts:

Para has a slightly lighter trigger (2.5-3.0 Vs 4.0 for the FNP USG)
Para comes with only one 14 rd magazine Vs FNP with three 14 rd mags
Para can easily costs TWICE as much as an FNP
Para does not have the same service reputation FNH has


http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=362606

KaliS-Pugilist
December 22, 2008, 01:17 PM
without question it is the best bang for the buck, should win the new "thehighroad.org Tripple-B Award"...lol...if there was one. but seriously, i own the XD45c and love it. didn't think it there could be much better in terms of comfort, capacity, and overall koolness. then came the FNP-45 and all is changed.

1) ambidextrous everything
2) three 14rd mags
3) great sights
5) looks super kool, can u say "badass"
6) as accurate as you can get
7) recoil is extra soft/smooth, about the same as a 9mm...maybe better
8) nice case
9) GREAT PRICE (i paid $575 for a bitone version)
10) built solid like a tank...literaly...lol
11) fits in the hand nicely, despite it being a true hand cannon.

i still think the XD45c is better for all around concealability and as a ccw, but if you can carry the FNP-45 concealed then do so and know that you have the best bang for the buck...no doubt!!!

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