Glock 19 ?


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sogarimfire
October 26, 2008, 11:18 AM
Hey guys .I really enjoy reading the High Road forums.I havent posted many threads because most of the time I can find my answer with a search.Well after reading these forums for a while I decided to purchase a used Glock 19.The gun shoot way left.About 8 inched at 15 yards before I moved the adjustible rear sight.I have the sight all the way to the right and I still have to aim a little to the right to get it centered.Is this normal?Do I need to take it back to the shop I purchased it?Send it back to Glock?Do I need to keep what I have and just learn to shoot it?I thought it might be me so I grabbed my old Hi Point C9 truck gun and it was dead center so I ruled out that it was me.Any thoughts that might help? Thanks.

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mgkdrgn
October 26, 2008, 11:37 AM
Do I need to keep what I have and just learn to shoot it?

My first thought would be your grip/trigger action.

Take your index finger, draw a line across it 1/2 way between the last joint and the end of your finger. This is the contact point for the trigger.

All of the movement needs to come from the middle joint .. that is, the last two finger segments need to move like they are fused together. Not a particularly natural thing to do. You probably can't grip the Glock the same way you do your Highpoint. I know the grip I use on my Glock 26 and Taurus Judge are very different.

Check out the "wheel of misery" attached. You may find your answer there.

Deanimator
October 26, 2008, 12:15 PM
Glocks (and M&Ps and XDs) have a different kind of trigger than you're used to.

You need to look both at how you're grasping the gun, and how you're pulling the trigger. Make sure that you have enough finger on the trigger. You really need to treat it more like a revolver than an M1911 (or a Hi Point). There's a lot more and heavier travel than what you're used to.

glockman19
October 26, 2008, 12:27 PM
Well after reading these forums for a while I decided to purchase a used Glock 19.
Congrats. and good choice.

If you're right handed then your probably anticipating recoil by pushing. This will make your POI low to the left.

remember, you should be pulling the trigger with the pad of your trigger finger, pulling with the trigger in the first joint of your trigger finger will also change your poi and shoot to the left.

I don't thing there is anything wrong with the gun.

sogarimfire
October 26, 2008, 02:14 PM
Well I did notice that the first round I fired out of the Glock did hit target at 20 yards.But for then on wide left.I was shooting using the hood of a small truck to rest on.I think Im gonna shoot it some more before I make a decision.I love the gun other than this.

sogarimfire
November 16, 2008, 10:40 AM
Hey guys sent the gun with a freind to go shoot at a range with a rest.He said it was shooting wide right LOL imagine that.Well I read alot of posts about the trigger on a Glock So I started dry firing and practicing the trigger movement.Went shooting yesterday and man what a difference.50 ft groups were 3.5 inches most of the time. THANKS

jocko
November 16, 2008, 10:47 AM
one can learn alot by just reading most posts on these gun forums. There is alot of great advice given. Most guns shoot correctly out of the box. Most bad groups are shooter error to.

Most glocks do shoot great, trigger control is primary on all guns. My two kahrs with extremely long trigger pulls were at first hard to shoot wellbut after many rounds down range and reading all I could I think I have mastered these kahrs very well. They have even made me a much better shooter with my G19 and my Smith M &P 9, which when I first got it had a lousy trigger but after David bowie got done with it, wow what a shooter it is now. Same thing with my G19, had to have some trigger and action work done on it and again what a shooter it is..

ricklin
November 16, 2008, 02:21 PM
I recently purchased a new Glock 19 as well, and the wheel of misery was a huge help.
Nothing wrong with the weapon, it was my double action trigger control that needed work.
Got a solid compliment from the instructor when I went for my CCW class, nice group, for a Glock:) He was a 1911 guy.

Alo spent some time dryfiring which helped a lot.

It did take a while to get the hang of the Glock trigger. I have since installed a 3.5 lb. connector. I expect my groups will tighten a bit, if not I will put the 5.5 connector back in.
It's amazing how fast one can empty a G19 if you shoot from the reset.

CountGlockula
November 16, 2008, 02:55 PM
Glad you figured it out. 99.9999% of the problem is the shooter. LOL!!!!

It takes some time getting used to the Glock trigger, the weight of the gun is a factor.

Enjoy your G19. God bless.

ricklin
November 16, 2008, 06:00 PM
Glockula,
Your point about the weight is a good one. I thought no biggie, I spent a lot of time at home shooting my C02 version of a Beretta 92, long stiff nasty trigger pull on that one, and I am pretty good with it.

Enter the G19, my first session with it looked like shotgun patterns:barf: Well not really, but I was not pleased.

Different strokes, for different triggers.:)

possum
November 16, 2008, 08:02 PM
Take your index finger, draw a line across it 1/2 way between the last joint and the end of your finger. This is the contact point for the trigger.
with the proper even trigger press, it dosen't matter what part of the finger you use, that is a huge misconception. you can use an ink pen, and long as you press the trigger to the rear evenly and smoothly. how do i know? i have done it.

Brian Williams
November 16, 2008, 08:25 PM
Get closer, start at 5 yards and shoot slowly with good sight alignment and trigger press. Think Front sight as you slowly press the trigger to the rear.

A couple of things to practice.
Point your trigger finger and open and close the other three with out moving your trigger finger.

Point your trigger finger and curl your others around an imaginary gun grip and curl and uncurl your trigger finger without moving the other three.
Do these often with both hands to make sure you can grip the gun without affecting your trigger pull and that you can pull the trigger without affecting your grip.


Remember while shooting; Front sight, front sight, front sight while pulling the tirgger with a steady press to the rear.



DRY FIRE.

clang
November 16, 2008, 08:25 PM
Everyone should own a .22 cal double action revolver - and learn how to shoot it in double action mode (no hammer cocking).

Great cheap plinking while you learn trigger control. A Glock trigger is easy after you become proficient with a revolver.

GRIZ22
November 16, 2008, 11:55 PM
Nothing wrong with the weapon, it was my double action trigger control that needed work.


The agency I worked for switched to Glocks in the 90s. I didn't like the Glock at first and found I was treating it like a DAO trying to get the same trigger action as a revolver. The answer for me was to treat it as a heavy single action (we had 8# triggers). I've adapted to it quite well over time and although I can have any trigger I want in my Glock since I retired I still have the 8#.

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