When kalifornistan outlawed the evil black rifles.....


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harmonic
October 26, 2008, 04:13 PM
........they allowed current owners to register and keep their "assault" rifles.

But, were kal residents allowed to buy stripped receivers and register them for later AR builds?

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TAB
October 26, 2008, 04:19 PM
Since the Assult weapon registry has long since been closed, it really does not matter. Bashing CA does not help anyone...

ArmedBear
October 26, 2008, 04:19 PM
Yes, as long as they were registered before the deadline. By Federal law, the serialized receiver is the firearm. California didn't come and check to see whether there were parts attached.

That said, it wasn't necessarily easy to get those parts, before the Cal Guns Off-List Lower revolution. Some vendors (Cheaper than Dirt, Sportsman's Guide, et al.) still won't send any AR parts to CA. There's no legal reason for them not to, but I guess they don't want to try to decipher CA's laws. If you try to read them, you'll know why.

The same thing happened later, when CA banned .50 BMG rifles. People bought whatever part was serialized, e.g. a single-shot AR lower for under 100 bucks, and registered it as a .50 Cal rifle just in case.

Vegaslaith
October 26, 2008, 04:46 PM
Some vendors (Cheaper than Dirt, Sportsman's Guide, et al.) still won't send any AR parts to CA.

Does anyone know of any vendors that will ship AR parts (not flash hiders/ standard cap. mags etc) to CA?

ArmedBear
October 26, 2008, 04:50 PM
Yes. Most of them will ship any part you want, including flash hiders.

J&T, Model 1, Rock River, Stag, M&A, LAN World, whomever.

10 Percent Firearms is a vendor in California that specializes in AR's and the like.

They can't send 30-rounders, but that has nothing to do with the fact that they fit an AR. They can't send 30-round 10/22 magazines, either.

railroader
October 26, 2008, 07:10 PM
You can actually still buy black rifles in california(non registered). I have an ar I built and a saiga. Here's an ad in the local paper for a dealer that's 10 minutes from my house. The prices are higher here but they sell black rifles to the public. Mark

http://shopping.pe.com/ROP/ads.aspx?advid=905803&adid=6990711

http://cdn.travidia.com/rop-ad/7101639

everallm
October 26, 2008, 07:23 PM
EBR's are NOT banned in California directly, what happens is they hedge various evil features such as removable magazines, muzzle brakes, etc but you can still get one that is fundamentally an EBR...

For example Robinson Arms sells both non Californian XCR rifles

http://www.robarm.com/images/XCR%20Accessories/XCR_Fiixed.jpg

and 3 California legal types

Version 1 pictured requires the use of a tool to remove the magazine. It also has a length of at least 30" with the stock folded.

http://www.robarm.com/XCR-CA-Light-16-RS.gif

Type 2

Version 2 has a Monster Man Grip, a fixed (non-folding) stock, and a muzzle brake rather than a flash-hider. The magazine release is the same as a standard XCR

http://www.robarm.com/XCR-CA-Short-RS.gif

Type 3

Version 3 has a "Bullet Button" which requires the use of a bullet tip (a tool) to remove the magazines. It has a fixed (non-folding) stock, a pistol grip, and a flash-hider. The barrel is 16" in length and the overall length is more than 30" The rifle is shown with a 30 round magazine which cannot be shipped to CA. The rifles will come with a 10 round magazine.

http://www.robarm.com/XCR_Fiixed.jpg

goon
October 26, 2008, 07:33 PM
Glad to see there are ways of getting around it for the CA guys.
Do thumbholes also count as rule beaters?
They're ugly but functional.

Dr. Fresh
October 26, 2008, 08:16 PM
How exactly are you supposed to hold the one with the "Monster Man" grip?

TexasRifleman
October 26, 2008, 08:20 PM
EBR's are NOT banned in California directly

After viewing the photos you posted of what IS allowed I can say with 100% certainty that yes, EBRs are indeed banned in California.

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