Burris scopes


October 27, 2008, 09:42 AM
How is the quality of current Burris scopes especially the Signature line,
years back I owned a 6x18 that was equal to or perhaps better then
Leupold at the time however it seems I see little written or shooters
using them now. How do they compared with the Nikon's/. Looking
to purchase one the two, please don't say buy Leupold as they may
be fine scopes but I find their prices "for me" are ridiculous.

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Vern Humphrey
October 27, 2008, 10:26 AM
I have a couple of Burris scopes and love them. They are rugged, hold their zero, and in my opinion are up to the level of the Leupold.

October 27, 2008, 10:38 AM
I just got done doing some long range shooting with my buddies m1a that was topped with a burris. You know, I am not sure what model it was, but it was a very clear scope. I really liked it and would probably put one on one of my lower recoil guns without hesitation. However, this scope was transferred from a .300 weatherby mag. On that gun the scope racked up 3 eyebrow cuts. The problem with the burris is that you don't have as much eye relief as you do with the Leupold. The three that got hit in the eye with the scope shot it just fine off the bench but knocked themselves down with it when they were shooting at deer. It was fun to watch since I carry .25-06. topped with a vari-x III. However, they all got their deer and I have yet to take a shot. You would be surprised to see how much an eyebrow can bleed.

Disclaimer: This is based on my experience with this one model. Others may not have this problem.

October 27, 2008, 10:52 AM
I have a 3-9x40mm Fullfield II with the Ballistic Plex reticle.

Clear, bright picture. No problems. I'd buy another one.

October 27, 2008, 11:19 AM
Armed Bear...

What caliber is it mounted on ?
I can't put no flimsy scope on my .243s Y'know. :D

Seriously... at one time a long time ago Burris wasn't so stout and so I've pretty much ignored them. But if I decide to scope one of my 30/30s I might give Burris a try. They sure look good :cool:


October 27, 2008, 11:19 AM
I have three Burris scopes (one Signature Select and two Fullfield II's) and four Leupolds (two older Vari-X IIs', a Vari-X III, and a VX-II).

The Burris Signature line is every bit as good as the Leupolds. The Fullfield II line is comparative to the VX-II, and may even be superior.

I like both brands just fine. The Burrus scopes have more competitive pricing when comparing feature-to-feature (particularly lense coatings and click adjustments).

The Leupold prices may be higher, but the customer service (if needed) is simply the best. I've never had to use Burrus customer service, so I can't compare.

The only two scopes that I've ever returned were the Leupold Vari-X IIs (roughly equal to the Rifleman line) that were 30+ years old. I purchased them in the early 70s' and they finally would not hold zero. Leupold rebuilt them and returned them within three weeks at no charge. They are back in service and doing well.

October 27, 2008, 11:23 AM
This is on a .30-06.

I was shooting it at a 100 yard indoor range in San Diego. It's pretty dark in there. I had no need for a spotting scope; the bullet holes were not only easy to see, but very crisp and clear, in very low light.

It's been banged around the brush, and I've used it to win an offhand match for charity. Once I got it sighted in, I have never had any need to re-zero it. If I switch to different ammo for elk in Idaho or something, I will have to. But the scope has never required it, even on Warne QD rings.

Burris scopes tend to be just a shade heavier than Leupolds, but not by much. They're lighter than Nikons, for sure. I'm looking at a Leupold for my next hunting rifle, but that's because Leupold makes a 4X fixed scope that's just over a half pound, and I want to put together a lightweight gun. If Burris made the scope I want, I'd have no reservations about getting another Burris.

highlander 5
October 27, 2008, 11:41 AM
I have an 8x32 power Burris mounted on my varmint AR and have to say it's held up well. Can't say on how it stacks up against Leupold or Swarovski but generally they are far more expensive and my scope budget was limited at the time. The Burris started life on a 700 BDL in 223 best group I ever shot with it was 3 shots into 3/8" at 100 yds and no I've not been able to do it again.

October 27, 2008, 11:42 AM
I have two FF2s. One on a 30-06 and another on a 7mm-08. I agree with all the positive comments here. I think they're very tough to beat for the money and they work just as well as a VX-II.

October 27, 2008, 12:26 PM
I know at least a couple of multigun competitors who are running Burris scopes and like them. I have no real firsthand experience with them, but they seem to be well made and reasonably priced.

October 27, 2008, 01:24 PM
Thanks Armed Bear !

What do you think of the Warne QD rings ? :confused:


October 27, 2008, 01:48 PM
I have a Burris Fullfield II 3X9X40 on my GF's Remington 7400 in .270 Win.

IMO its a nice optic for the money. Even came with a decent pair of 8X bino's for $199.00 when I bought it on sale last year. Both did great last season and through out the "fun shooting season" this summer. I'd buy another one if I need a good scope in the future.

This comming from a guy who has a Leupold VX-II 3X9X40 on his CZ550 in 30-06.

Ben Shepherd
October 27, 2008, 01:52 PM
Same scope as ArmedBear here. VERY impressed with it so far. Holds zero, doesn't fog up, and it has a bright clear picture. Bright enough that if I can't see well out of it, it's a certainty that I'm outside of legal hunting hours.

In it's price range I'm not sure it has a better.

Might want to look into the burris rings with the inserts as well. I love them. The scope does not move, and the tube doesn't end up with ring marks either.

October 27, 2008, 01:59 PM
What do you think of the Warne QD rings ?

I really like mine (with Warne bases). They're on a Weatherby Vanguard Sporter (Howa long action). The same bases fit a 700.

I can take the scope off in seconds, for cleaning or disassembling the rifle, and thus far, the scope has remained dead-on whenever I put it back on the rifle. If I were tempted to get irons as a backup, I would get a second scope instead. It would be entirely possible to carry a spare scope, sighted in, in a backpack, and just pop it on if you, say, smash your primary on a rock or something.

When I initally mounted the scope on the rifle, it was already shooting within a few inches of the bullseye at 100 yards. The receiver was straight, and the bases, rings and scope were all straight. No lapping, no messing around; I just bolted them on with a touch of blue Loc-Tite. I then tried to bore sight the gun, but it was already dead-on, with only minor adjustment required when I tested it with live ammo.

I'll be buying more Warne mounts and rings, too. I probably won't look much at anything else in the future, unless Warne doesn't make what I need. They're more expensive than some cheap sporter rings, but compared to some "tactical" rings, they're not at all bad and they've worked very well for me.

October 27, 2008, 02:01 PM
I have Signature Select, Leupolds, and Conquests. I would say they are equal to the VXIII in optical clarity. I do not like the adjustments as they do not seem as "crisp" as the others but it does what I need it to.

However, I still prefer the Conquest if the price was the same. The Conquest seems to have better optics and adjustments. Leupolds holds the edge in weight, size, and customer service. Both scopes are also more expensive.

I also think the Monarch (never hunted with one) and Weaver Grand Slam are excellent scopes for the money. Especially the Grand Slams as they are known to have excellent adjustments and tracking. Just about equal to the Conquest but save a couple of hundred dollars.

October 27, 2008, 02:03 PM
:) Thanks Armed Bear...

.....if you've got the Warne QD rings on an 06 they sure ought to be OK on a 30/30 !


October 27, 2008, 05:11 PM
I have both Nikon Monarchs and Burris FFII's (and one Simmons Aetec) scopes on my rifles. My 7mm Mag as a FFII, as does a 243. I have a 308 and 30-06 topped with the Monarchs.

I prefer the Nikons for the money, but I really like the FFII's as well.


October 27, 2008, 06:19 PM
Appreciate all the info. Have not purchased a scope in years mostly into
pistols however recently purchased a Savage model 12 with heavy barrel
in 223, trying to decide on a scope.

October 27, 2008, 10:07 PM
i love my Leupolds but i found a fullfield II on ebay that i bought for $138.00 shipped & gave it to a buddy for christmas. now that i've shot his rifle with that scope i am quite impressed with the clarity & brightness. i don't think you'd be disappointed with a Burris product. it has a lot of nice features & good eye relief for it's size. the b-plex reticle is very user friendly.

October 27, 2008, 10:28 PM
I have two Burris 8X32 50mm Black Diamond scopes, one on a Savage 6.5 284 that I shot at 1,000 and one on an FN XP .308 that I like to shoot at 500. I have nothing but good things to say about Burris scopes. They are very clear and bright and deliver on the competition line. I had several Leupold's but don't use any Leupold scopes now. Not that Leupold is not a good glass, I replaced them with a lower cost and, in my opinion, equal quality alternative.

October 27, 2008, 11:04 PM
I have a sig. select on a 25-06, great gun and no need to re-sight in the last 5+ years.

I have a FF II on a 7mmstw. Scope is ok so far. The one thing I hate on this is that the eye piece turns when you adjust power, IE, if you have a scope cover on the gun it moves from 3-9 power and you can't run the bolt. This sucks and I will sell this scope one day for that reason alone.

If that is not a concern they are great scopes for the $$ and I like Nikon as well.


October 28, 2008, 12:09 AM
Between my father and I we probably have nearly a dozen Burris Signatures, the ones from the late 90's early 2000's all in either 6-24x or 8-32x. The previous generation. They're mounted on guns from 300 Win Mag, to 300 Ultra, 338/416 Remington Mag, 338/378 Weatherby and we even have one on a 50 BMG. All have held up almost without flaw. The only non-operator caused problem I've run into was on the 338/378 2 years back. Finally shook something loose. Not surprising though as the gun has no muzzle brake and kicks something awful. In this case, as in the previous cases where the problem was my fault, the scopes were all fixed in 10 days. That's from my door, back to my door. No questions asked. IMHO, Burris is the best bang for your buck out there. They build a damn good scope for the price.

October 29, 2008, 01:16 AM
Burris makes some great scopes, i have a Fullfield 2 4.5x14x42mm on my Bulgy FAL, it is extreamly crisp and clear. A very stout scope. Im only 18, and was tempted to just buy some Wallmart scope, but luckily i spent the extra $ and got a quality one. if you buy one they are awsome, you wont go wrong. I am thinking about setting up my M48 Mauser with one of thier pistol scopes, in a scout setup

October 29, 2008, 07:43 AM
I like my Fullfield 2 3-9. They do make better scopes, but this one is pretty darned good.

October 29, 2008, 11:55 AM
My FFIIs are doing very well so far with liimited use. I am happy with the light transmission and the eye relief fits me fine. I prefer them over the Simmons Aetec on my CZ550 .308, but this one is a tac driver so I won't mess with it now. I have the 4.5-14x42 on a 700 30-06 and the 3-9x40 on a CZ452 .22lr. I may get another 3-9 to mount on my DSA Stg58. 2 good scopes, a Garmin GPS, and 8x binos for less than $550 is hard to beat.

October 29, 2008, 12:19 PM
I have heard good things about Burris scopes, but I'm a leupold guy so I'll probably never own one. If Burris services their products like Leupold does, you shouldn't have any problems; I've heard similar stories to the one willymike shared in post 6 on Leupold CS. If the Burris line has good coatings and good clicks, it sounds like a good deal. I don't know what they are charging for these scopes, but Cabelas is showing $479 for the VX-III which may be expensive to some, but I guess that all depends on how much of your fun money goes towards shooting.

Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow
October 29, 2008, 12:44 PM
Evidently their warranty service is very poor, as compared with Leupold (or so it has been alleged). But the scopes themselves seem great to me, and a good value for the money - two fullfield 2s and one Sig Select here. To me, Leupolds are a better value for BIG boomers, like .300 maggies, .375, etc., because those are the guns likely to break a scope, where the warranty might be needed; plus, those are the guns where the good eye relief of Leupold is needed. For smaller boomers, I go with better value scopes (lower priced; equal glass). Most Burrises fall into this latter category.

Warne rings, QD or otherwise, are good stuff, Maynard!

October 29, 2008, 01:06 PM
Bushnell (Bausch & Lomb) Elite 3200/4200.FAVORITE

If I find an Elite 3000, I buy it. Have 4.
The ONLY way to go(for me.)

Have (2) - Fullfield-II and I like them ; they were on a refurb sale at ........heck it has been a few years ago. One on a 300 win, one on a 7mm rem.
Never had a scope cut, except from a Sightron.

October 29, 2008, 01:18 PM
Go to a shop that has em all, and look through them and see which one catches your eye. Burris caught mine!

October 29, 2008, 01:45 PM
You would be surprised to see how much an eyebrow can bleed.

The supraorbital foramen is the hole right above each eye-socket (orbit), inside where the eyebrow is. Through these holes runs a vein, and I would imagine that these holes would crack them open if something hammered them. Add to that the way that pretty much any cut on the head seems to bleed to an unusual extent, and I could see how what you say would be true.

October 29, 2008, 02:32 PM
I have more Burris scopes than any other make (I also own and use one or more Leupold, B&L, Bushnell, Redfield, Weaver, Simmons and Tasco scope) and I have had very good service with them, optically and mechanically.

I have never had to test their Customer Service department but doesn't not having to mean the best possible customer service? :)

October 29, 2008, 02:58 PM
Their customer service is great. I have a Burris Black Diamond on my 300WSM. The paralax adjustment knob fell off somewhere in the mountains of New Mexico. I wrote the company, and the president sent me a replacement part free of charge. He also gave me a 75% off coupon for any Burris product I wanted.

October 29, 2008, 04:02 PM
I have Three FFII on 30.06, 22.250,
7MM Rem Mag, No problems.
My Buddy just bought one with a Free Gps with it. I also received a pair of Binos and spotting scope with mine

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