Assult Rifle for $500 in Houston Tx?


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Monkeybear
October 27, 2008, 09:06 PM
I have a co-worker, a good guy, who is interested in getting himself a nice assult rifle. He lives in Houston and wants to spend around $500. I don't really have the time to drive around town to all the gunstores so I was hoping that any locals that happend to have gone shopping in the past few days might have seen something that fits the bill. He said he prefers to buy from a store.

Also: Not here to discuss the origins fo the word "assult" when paired with the word rifle, just trying to help someone out.

Any advice or ideas will be appreciated.

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MikePGS
October 27, 2008, 09:09 PM
I'm pretty sure you can get a WASR-10 (ak variant) for around 400 bucks or so, but there are many people on here with vastly superior knowledge to my own on the subject.

Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow
October 27, 2008, 09:10 PM
Assault rifles typically run $10K and up - so that's an impossible task - any other possibilities? Homeland defense rifle as a substitute maybe?

Monkeybear
October 27, 2008, 09:15 PM
Assault rifles typically run $10K and up - so that's an impossible task - any other possibilities? Homeland defense rifle as a substitute maybe?


If you can't help me why do you post? Because you think you're witty?

Also: Not here to discuss the origins fo the word "assult" when paired with the word rifle, just trying to help someone out.


I think everyone knows what I mean when I say Assult Rifle.

Hoppy590
October 27, 2008, 09:17 PM
Assault rifles typically run $10K and up - so that's an impossible task - any other possibilities? Homeland defense rifle as a substitute maybe?

how about a constructively contribute to the thread or don't post rifle?

correct terminology is great. but people are taking it to far. he knows the difference. he requested you DONT rant and rave about "assault" being combined with "Rifle"

Bill2e
October 27, 2008, 09:19 PM
We know what you mean, but I also understand why many stick to the purist deffinition of Assult Riffle & not the media deffinition.

What does your friend want? An AR (not for $500)

and AK, SKS. You question is very much open ended.

That being said, If he wants an AR, but can't afford one yet, why not have him buy a complete Lower for around $250-300 & then save up $$$ for the UPPER.

Monkeybear
October 27, 2008, 09:20 PM
I'm pretty sure you can get a WASR-10 (ak variant) for around 400 bucks or so, but there are many people on here with vastly superior knowledge to my own on the subject.


Thats what I was thinking but another co-worker who went to last weeks gun show told us that AK prices have shot up. My friend also wants something with a 20-30 round mags. Thanks for your input though. :)

Hoppy590
October 27, 2008, 09:23 PM
you can build an AR for about 600.

have him save up the extra 100$

buy a stripped lower (cheaper end 100-130$, but just as good as any other) and then a Del-Ton kit for just under 500
http://www.del-ton.com/AR_15_Rifle_Kits_s/1.htm

the kit has everything you need to turn the stripped lower into a functional firearm

Monkeybear
October 27, 2008, 09:23 PM
You question is very much open ended.

He is not sure what he wants, just of his budget. I am just looking for suggestions for rifles that cost around $500 and take hi-cap mags in military calibers. Other than that he has no preferences or expectations.

I just realised that I can get a Kel-Tec SU-16 for about $500ish!

Monkeybear
October 27, 2008, 09:25 PM
Hoppy- Thanks! I'll print that out and show it to him tomorrow.

greyling22
October 27, 2008, 09:29 PM
http://www.texasguntrader.com/index/listings/page4761.htm

gotime242
October 27, 2008, 09:31 PM
saiga

Gord
October 27, 2008, 09:35 PM
You can buy a standard, sporter-config Saiga for $300 pretty much anywhere, in your choice of .223 or 7.62x39, and then convert it for another $150-200. If you're lazy, you can buy one pre-converted from Classicarms for $500.

Yugo underfolder AKs are $500 at Centerfire Systems. Built like a tank, but heavy and no chrome barrel/chamber if that matters to him. Didn't to me.

As far as ARs go, the closest you're going to get to $500 is a Del-Ton kit. $465 for a base kit, plus $100-125 for a stripped lower.

There are CETMEs and such, too, but as I know nothing about them I'll let someone else bring 'em up...

Monkeybear
October 27, 2008, 09:40 PM
Tactical- Thanks for the links. He wants to buy locally, but I appreciate the help!

Gord
October 27, 2008, 09:49 PM
His best bet locally is a WASR or a Saiga + DIY conversion. He's not gonna find a prebuilt AR anywhere within a few hundred bucks of $500, and even if some local shop has Yugos or whatever other AK variant in stock, they'll likely be closer to $600.

He's really limiting himself excluding kit ARs and internet purchases, but if that's what the man wants...

Tacbandit
October 27, 2008, 09:57 PM
MonkeyBear, as posted above, you can definitely do the SKS/AK. As was also stated, for another $100.00 or so , he can build an AR. For my point, if he doesn't want to build one, but wants an AR, over an SKS/AK, here's my suggestion...There are lots of good companies out there with good stuff, and I'm not promoting one brand over another...(that's another thread, guys...) but I just saw this site that had some various lowers/receivers, in various states of completion...Here's a thought...Buy a complete lower for just under $200.00...Have it sent to his local FFL holder.No work, no fuss, no muss...Now you have your BATF controlled portion of the firearm...Save another $400.00, (just a little over that) buy the same brand complete upper, (which he can have shipped to his home) slap them together...All kinds of ways to do it...Depends on what he wants...give it a look...hope it helps...
http://www.colemantyler.com/categories.php?cat=121&PHPSESSID=a63b3bf911146e20ff28e00b5d74c3ef

lloydkristmas
October 28, 2008, 03:32 AM
Id say either an AK, Saiga, SU-16 Kel Tec, or some sort of used Mini-14 would fit the bill. Technically the SKS doesnt fit with the others, mainly due to its lack of a detatchable magazine. The AK is probably the best bet. Very "beginner" friendly in terms of simplicity, reliability, cost effectiveness, and customization options.

rangerruck
October 28, 2008, 04:32 AM
Saiga, you can find some allready converted at Fountain firearms, or collector's firearms, but I don't know if they are going to be 500 or less.

RockyMtnTactical
October 28, 2008, 04:34 AM
Saiga.

Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow
October 28, 2008, 10:03 AM
No, *I'm* the only one "helping" here. If we voluntary use the gun banners' bogus words, then we are shooting ourselves in the foot. It is the OP whose original post shows that he KNOWS he's using the wrong bogus terminology that makes us look bad and he did it anyway. He is the one clearly not helping, and admitting he's doing it intentionally because he's too lazy to use the right words. Do pro-abortion-rights people call themselves "The Baby-Killers"? No? Then we shouldn't call rifles which are NOT assault rifles, assault rifles.

correct terminology is great. but people are taking it to far. he knows the difference. he requested you DONT rant and rave about "assault" being combined with "Rifle"

Exactly; you prove my point; thank you Hoppy. I would be very very gentle if it was simple ignorance, but as you point out, it's not - it's pure obstinance and laziness on his part. I'm quite sure he requested I and others don't rant and rave; so what's the point? I'm sure robbers and other criminals sure wish the cops wouldn't rant and rave about their bad acts either - it doesn't make them right. Tough noogies comes to mind. We don't need people to intentionally make us look bad by falling into the trap set by the anti-gunners' bogus phrases.

Monkeybear
October 28, 2008, 11:46 AM
PremiumSauces-Blah blah blah ...... I don't know of any $500 assult rifles that have not been listed....blah blah blah


Fixed it for you.

Monkeybear
October 28, 2008, 11:51 AM
Ranger- We will be heading over to Fountain this afternoon so I guess we will find out. Thanks!

llyod- Thinking about getting a SUC-16 myself while we are out.

Tacbandit- Been tryin' to get him to get an AR. No luck.

Rocky- A pre-converted Saiga would be ideal if its not priced through the roof.

mljdeckard
October 28, 2008, 11:53 AM
Look in the pawn shops, especially if he's looking for an AK.

3pairs12
October 28, 2008, 11:54 AM
Wow before this turns into more of a pissing match and gets locked I would recomend the SKS converted to accept AK mags for the semi auto sporting rifle for your buddy. Tell him to check out gun shows there are enough that come around. Should be able to find ftf deal there.

Monkeybear
October 28, 2008, 12:00 PM
mljdeckard- Thanks! Had not concidered pawn shops. Hopefully their pries have not caught up with everyone elses.

3pairs12- I'll swing the converted SKS idea by him but it has always been my understanding that SKS rifles with detachable magazines are un-reliable. By the way, I am not trying to start a pissing match. I'm just not currently interested in discussing, specifically in this thread, the term "assult rifle" on a forum populated by pro-2A adults who know exactly what I am talking about. If I felt that this forum were full of impressionable children I might act and speak differently.

nalioth
October 28, 2008, 12:16 PM
I would recomend the SKS converted to accept AK mags for the semi auto sporting rifle for your buddy. I would not.

I've never seen one that ran worth a darn.

Now a SKS-M or SKS-D (factory built to use AK mags) is another story.

Shade00
October 28, 2008, 12:19 PM
Monkeybear, while it's true that many people have had trouble with SKSes using some aftermarket magazines, Tapco makes EXCELLENT 20 round magazines that have not given me a single problem with my SKS. I added the Tapco T6 stock to mine and really love it. It's a blast to shoot and my Tapco 20 rounders have flawlessly fed many, many rounds. I got lucky and found my Norinco SKS in a pawn shop for $150, paid another $60 or so for the stock, and got the mags for under $20 a piece. The whole kit ran me well under $300. While you might not be able to find an SKS for $150, you probably can for around $200.

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h33/Datlore001/sks.jpg

Monkeybear
October 28, 2008, 07:43 PM
Shade00- Thats a nice looking SKS.

Well, we went to Collectors and found a CMMG complete lower for $259.99. That seemed like a good deal and a nice start.

3pairs12
October 28, 2008, 07:45 PM
check out ar15.com for uppers there ae some good deals in the equipment exchange section.

BullpupBen
October 28, 2008, 07:49 PM
Don't forget about pistol caliber carbines.

They pack a huge punch within 150 yards, are very cheap (excluding Beretta) the ammo is cheap, and they can be used at most indoor ranges. (probably important to someone who lives in a city)

The Deer Hunter
October 28, 2008, 07:51 PM
Assault rifles typically run $10K and up - so that's an impossible task - any other possibilities? Homeland defense rifle as a substitute maybe?

Holy crap dude he wants a scary looking rifle for god's sake!

Tacbandit
October 28, 2008, 08:01 PM
MonkeyBear, CMMG also has uppers on the site I sent you...There's a ton
of stuff there...So, is he getting the lower, or just interested...??

Shade00
October 28, 2008, 08:21 PM
A CMMG lower is a good start. There are endless options for uppers.

Frog48
October 28, 2008, 09:14 PM
If your friend can swing $599, he can get an AR15...

Olympic A1 carbine from AtlanticFirearms.com

http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/beta/data/default/images/catalog/large/olympica1.jpg

http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/beta/storeproduct347.aspx

Monkeybear
October 29, 2008, 12:07 AM
is he getting the lower, or just interested...??

He said he had a lot to absorb. I think he is going to do it.

ETA: He has since told me that another friend offered him a Bushmaster Dissapator upper at a killer price. I suggested that he take it to the store, make sure it fits the CMMG lower and buy them both if it dose. Seems like he may be able to get the whole deal for less than $600 out the door.

Gord
October 29, 2008, 12:08 AM
"It" being what exactly?

Monkeybear
October 29, 2008, 12:53 AM
Tacbandit- I have been thinking, and looking at the uppers from the site you sent me, and I have come to the conclusion that I personally need a CMMG lower. $259 seems like a very fair price for Collector's Firearms and I can't imgaine a store in Houston selling them for less. They said that they had 7 in the back and that those should last maybe a week. Hope I get my bonus before then :p


Why is it that one can never help another find a gun without ending up with one or two oneself?

SGW42
October 29, 2008, 01:13 AM
Try Fountain Firearms on Bissonett and Hwy 6.

They had a couple WASRs to select from as well as a Saiga or two - plus a whole rack of AR type rifles, and what's left of a crate of Yugo SKSs.

All there in the store at what I think are reasonable prices and ready to go home.


I also heard Jim Pruett's shop is supposed to specialize in this type of thing, but I have never been. I'm sort of shocked any type of deal was found at Collector's.

Tarvis
October 29, 2008, 01:57 AM
Well, we went to Collectors and found a CMMG complete lower for $259.99. That seemed like a good deal and a nice start.
Sounds pretty fair. I paid $97 for a DPMS lower (when you buy 5 or more ;)), $60 for a parts kit, something like $150 for a CTR stock, so around $100 for a standard collapsible. That price is right on the mark. Buy two ;).

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