breakdown .22s


October 27, 2008, 09:02 PM
the idea of the ar7 seems cool, seeing it can fold down to fit in a backpack. is there any other companies making guns like this?

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October 27, 2008, 09:12 PM
The Marlin 39 Golden breaks down.

October 27, 2008, 09:18 PM
Yes, the Marlin Papoose, and the Springfield M6. There probably are some others that I can't remember but those are the ones that stand out to me. The M6 is my favorite of the two but it is no longer in production and is expensive and hard to come by. Note: the M6 is a duel barrel, with 22, and 410 barrels

M6 pic:

Marlin Pic:

October 27, 2008, 09:32 PM
to backpack sized dimensions?

October 27, 2008, 09:44 PM
My Grandfather gave me an old pump .22 that breaks down, Its alotta fun!

October 28, 2008, 03:26 AM
Browning semi auto .22 and the winchester 62 pumps (rossi clones) come to mind.
Butler creek makes/made a folding takedown stock for the 10/22 as well

October 28, 2008, 03:30 AM
dont' forget the old Brno's, and the remmy 240 and 241's. the marlin papoose is generally considered the best all around; takes a beating, not expensive, you won't worry about every little scratch like a Browning, accurate, reliable.
the ar/7,types you are talking about pretty much suck the root, as far as reliability and accuracy are concerned, including the armalites, charter arms, and other one, whose name I can't remember right now.
I don't know if Henry actually improved on these areas or not.

October 28, 2008, 03:51 AM
WIN 62

October 28, 2008, 08:43 AM
don't forget Winchester 63 and the Taurus copy's

October 28, 2008, 09:10 AM
I never forget the Winchester Model 63 :)
Mine will breakdown and fit in a full size pack with room to spare but it would be a stretch to get it stuffed into a daypack.

October 28, 2008, 10:25 AM
Unfortunately, the concept behind the AR-7 design is worlds better than the way it's been executed by the various manufacturers. I've owned at least one example from all of the outfits who've made them over the years, and only my first Armalite-made worked worth a hoot. At least it would feed most of the time and didn't have some part fail in short order.

My final exercise in wishfull thinking with the design is the Henry rendition currently moldering in its box because the cast metal barrel housing cracked at the extractor cut after fewer than 500 rds.

The company won't address the problem unless I send the entire rifle back to them and pay for the shipping both ways.

I think I can understand a logical purpose for why they'd rather examine the whole rifle rather than just the barrel assembly. But when they flatly refuse to consider refunding any of the costs involved under any circumstances and those amount to about half the retail cost of the item (about triple their price for a replacement barrel) despite their claim of a "Lifetime Warranty", I quit.

IIWY, I'd look for a Browning .22 auto. If the price is too much for your budget, Norinco made a very servicable copy of the design for about half the cost. They're still seen fairly often on Gun Broker and the like in NIB or EX. condition in the under $200 range.

Another semiauto option would be the Marlin "Papoose". Still in production, IIRC, and very dependable.

I like my Springfield M6 .22/.410 combo, but they're getting harder to find and fairly pricey. They make a very practical working tool, but might not be your idea of a 'fun' plinker.

The carbine versions of the Rossi M62 pump stow easily in a pack when taken down, too. The design is rugged and reliable plus they're available in stainless if you prefer.

IMO, about anything would be a better, more reliable option than the typical AR7.

October 28, 2008, 12:23 PM
Don't forget that you can put a Butler Creek folding stock on a Ruger 10/22 and end up with a very compact and packable unit. I put one on my stainless/synthetic 10/22 for storage in a compartment behind the rear seat of my truck. Works great.

October 29, 2008, 03:17 PM
You might want to consider the little Norinco semi-auto (cheap but well-made Browning knock-off). It breaks down like the Browning and can be had for scads less on the used gun market-if you're willing to forego any hope of the value appreciating to any significant degree.

October 29, 2008, 03:21 PM
i refuse to buy chicom guns

October 29, 2008, 07:39 PM
Well, good for you. :rolleyes:

October 30, 2008, 03:11 AM
I just got a marlin 70pss and I think its an great little take down gun, only been to the range once with it so far but was really happy with the results.

Do a search on the ar-7, most people dont like them, the design has a history of of unreliability ( I had one 7 yrs back and it jammed more than it shot and traded it off at a loss and was happy to get of it )

If you like the winchester 63 look up the Taurus copy ( M63 )that comes in stainless and blue. I have on in stainless and like it, though it is not as compact or light as the marlin ) The only drawback is no built in scope rails, you cant order those, for 40$ more) on the Taurus website all thier 22 rifles are listed as discontinued but there are still new ones out there for sale.

The taurus 62 pump looks pretty nice too, I want one of those one of these days.

Brian Williams
October 30, 2008, 09:36 AM
The Marlin 39 comes in 3 sizes, the TD or Texan have 16" barrels and the barrel/receiver is 20" long, the Mountie has a 20" barrel with a barrel/receiver about 24" and the 39A has a 24" barrel.

October 30, 2008, 09:49 AM
I have the Taurus Model 72 carbine.
This is the 22mag version, but the model 62 is 22lr. Fun little gun. Breaks down nice, and with one box of 50 rounds you cannot beat it for compactness.

Marlin 45 carbine
October 30, 2008, 10:01 AM
a big + for the AR7 is that it breaks down to fit into the stock. reliability in feeding has been traced to the magazine/clip which usually needs some 'tweaking' to iron things out.
I've owned 2 of them - still have my last purchase (Henry) and gave one (Charter arms) to my nephew. both do fine now after I got the feeding problem ironed out. they seem to prefer MiniMag CCI ammo. SuperX Win also does well. for some reason 'Stingers' and other hyper-vels don't do as well.
accuracy is fine with the 'peep' type sight. the barrel band must be kept tight for good functioning also.
mine has many squirrels, rabbit and grouse and a few groundhog to it's credit. fits in backpack w/room to spare.
I've never owned a Marlin 'Papoose' but have shot my buddys. a real tack-driver it is. can't fault it a bit.

October 30, 2008, 10:16 AM
I started our with the Armalite AR-7,then got the Charter Arms,and now have the Henry.As Marlin stated above,with a little tweeking,they do work,Henry finally fixed the mags,on mine I didn't have to do anything,they come with a stiffing wire already soldered to support the weak part of the mag [looks like a paper clip,but hey,it works] I never got around to owning the Springfield M6,but if I live long enough,I will....that's a neat little gun.I had a Bronco Garcia,but you don't see those around any more.

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