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GunLvrNLearner
October 28, 2008, 07:36 PM
If one wanted to buy a auto that is known to reliably feed most anything so you didnt have to go thru several rounds of various ammo, what gun manufacturers would you suggest?

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OregonJohnny
October 28, 2008, 07:59 PM
You are going to get responses listing almost every current popular handgun manufacturer out there. But from my experience, when it comes to reliability of feeding many different types of ammo, you can't go wrong with a Beretta 92FS (9mm) or 96 (.40 S&W), a Springfield XD (any caliber), or Ruger P series. I hear great things about Sig Sauer, Glock and HK but have never owned any of these. Brands to stay away from in my opinion, based on personal experience, are Taurus and Kel-Tec.

You will get more opinions than you know what to do with. But most of the big name brands are turning out very reliable autos these days, so stick with them if budget isn't an issue and out-of-the-box reliability is. (Ruger, S&W, Colt, Springfield, Beretta, Sig, Glock, HK)

possum
October 28, 2008, 08:21 PM
xd's, i have 2 and they have had every bullet type/weight/design from almost every maker, and some that some people have never heard of. they run and run, i have no complaints at all.

woad_yurt
October 28, 2008, 08:43 PM
A Makarov. I've owned 3 and, after thousands of rounds, have had one jam. That one jam was after 450-500 rounds of Wolf without a cleaning. The gun was soot saturated. It was like the inside of a diesel tail pipe. After the one jam, it still shot about 250 more rounds without fail without having been cleaned.

The Lone Haranguer
October 28, 2008, 08:54 PM
Older "classic" SIG-Sauers, Glocks, "Third Generation" S&Ws and the Beretta 92 series. (I only "know" the Beretta by reputation, but own or have owned the others.)

UnTainted
October 28, 2008, 09:07 PM
I will add that my new Sigs are as reliable with a large variation in ammo as my W.German older sig. Never a single problem. My sisters's glock has some 5K plus rounds through it, not a problem with various ammos. I think many manufactures can tout this type of quality.

abuelo
October 28, 2008, 09:15 PM
I will agree XD is the way to go.!!!!!

s4s4u
October 28, 2008, 09:17 PM
P95 Ruger, it will eat anything.

Ethereal
October 28, 2008, 09:54 PM
Another vote for the Beretta 92 series.

tiger rag
October 28, 2008, 09:59 PM
My Glocks and my Makarovs eat anything I feed them.

Dr_2_B
October 28, 2008, 10:19 PM
I agree with Oregon, but I hafta put another plug in for the Glock. They're voracious.

eng23ine
October 28, 2008, 10:57 PM
I have a S&W 4506 that will feed empty cases:cool:

dpart77
October 28, 2008, 11:14 PM
I love my XD 40 it feeds everything. I also love my XD 45 but it has trouble feeding lead bullets especially LSWC rounds. I fixed the LRN feeding problems but I still have problems with semi wadcuter rounds. My xd 40 has no problems with any of them.

spiroxlii
October 29, 2008, 12:16 AM
My HS Produkt HS2000 is the same Croatian pistol (even made in the same factory) as the Springfield Armory XD9. It is very reliable, so I can give one more vote for the XD! It has eaten a wide variety of JHP and FMJ rounds with no complaints.

My Bersa Thunder 9 Ultra Compact is also very reliable. Never a single failure to feed with a variety of cheap and "premium" JHP and FMJ ammo. The Bersa Thunder 380 has a similar reputation for reliability. I own two of them, and I can say that they can and will eat every kind of ammo with one minor exception. The only ammo that ever gave me trouble in my Bersa Thunder 380 was a box of Federal Hydrashok JHPs. The Federals have a very odd shape, though. Instead of being round-nosed like Remington Golden Saber JHPs, the Federal Hydrashoks that occasionally jammed my Bersa were very angular. They noses of the bullets were shaped like cones with the tops sliced off, not like the usual round nose you expect on a bullet.

BlindJustice
October 29, 2008, 12:33 AM
THe CZ 75B I bought in May '08 ( left the factory Jan '08 ) has
had just over 1,050 rounds through it of every make and type of bullet
in 115 gr., 124 gr. & 147 gr. with no FTF/FTEs except one at the last
range session - I let a friend shoot some of his reloads through it. It
choked on a round that was overcrimped but I racked the slide and it
ejected the round. Funny, same day he had said he had returned his
GLock 19 back to the stock trigger - and it wouldn't stop locking the slide
after every shot. He also admitted to a couple of stovepipes a few
weeks ago. The only reason I let him use his ammo in my CZ was he
was stuck shooting his Ruger Mk III and I had my .45s 1911 & S&W 625
last saturday.

Randall

MachIVshooter
October 29, 2008, 12:40 AM
My 3rd gen S&W's have all been 100%, with the exception of my 1006 not liking hte old Norma ammo. My 4506 even happily digested a box of .45 GAP that was going to be discarded (buddy bought it, he didn't have a GAP gun or a 3rd gen S&W)

Landric
October 29, 2008, 01:19 AM
Yeah, the 3rd Gen S&Ws are incredibly reliable. At the moment my only example is a 4566TSW, but it, along with every other S&W 3rd gen I have owned or shot would feed anything, including empty brass.

For some reason a lot of people are down on them, but those people seem to be the ones with no actual experience with them.

SwampWolf
October 30, 2008, 03:48 PM
Another vote for Third Generation Smith semi-autos. Some people don't like the ergos, some don't care for the looks but you will rarely hear from anybody who says they're unreliable.

Omaha-BeenGlockin
October 30, 2008, 03:56 PM
Glock and Ruger

ARTiger
October 30, 2008, 04:20 PM
Yet to see a .45 ACP round that a Ruger P90 or P345 would not feed. I think they would feed empty cases.

sturmgewehr
October 30, 2008, 04:29 PM
My 1911's will feed empty cases.

db_tanker
October 30, 2008, 04:38 PM
Give another vote to the Beretta 92...

from brown bear to Hornady and everything in between it has fed...mebbe not so accurate downrange especially with the brown bear. :) lol

CWL
October 30, 2008, 05:05 PM
Depends on your luck when buying a gun.

While most modern guns will reliably feed anything, it depends on how an individual gun is prepped & finished before shipping to the retailers. Sometimes, even the best reputation gun has some out-of-spec "slop" left in the gun.

In general, "reliability" depends on how well an individual takes care of it. For example, look at 10 houses on your street, they may have all been built at the same time, but some will be nicer due to regular maintenance while others will be more run-down if not totally trashed.

Personal responsibility is what is important.

The Bushmaster
October 30, 2008, 05:05 PM
Colt series 80 .45 ACP from 1990 on...Mine eats anything I feed it...

CountGlockula
October 30, 2008, 05:07 PM
Glock.

gun4funtime
October 30, 2008, 06:16 PM
Another for Beretta 92
taurus 92 or 99 I have had great luck with also.
taurus pt1911, no problems.

those who want to bash taurus, why, I have owned several and never had a problem. Just clean them, they shoot great. eat anything I fed into them.

Weedmonk
October 30, 2008, 06:59 PM
My personal experience with great feeding handguns includes:
- W. German Sig P220s
- Colt 1911 XSEs
- Kimber CDP
- Kimber Ultra Carry
- Springfield 1911 Mil-Spec
- Browning HPs
- Beretta 92 and 96
- Beretta 8000 Cougar
- Glock 9mm (26, 19, & 17)
- NAA Guardian .32

ZombieKiller
October 30, 2008, 07:22 PM
those who want to bash taurus, why, I have owned several and never had a problem. Just clean them, they shoot great. eat anything I fed into them

i have a taurus PT1911, and i have a problem with it extracting/ejecting. its getting treated at the hospital though, so hopefully no more problems...

deercop
October 30, 2008, 07:51 PM
IF I were forced to pick up a new, off the shelf handgun, load it, and trust my life to it without benefit of testing [shudder], I would pick a Glock 9mm.

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa311/gunslinger902/DSCF0002-2.jpg

P97
October 30, 2008, 08:23 PM
So far my Ruger P90DC has digested everything I've fed it. I shoot a lot of my reloads, with both round nose, and hollow points. I couldn't ask for one better, but it might jam the next time I shoot it. Nothing mechanical is perfect.

Mike J
October 30, 2008, 09:03 PM
Ruger P-series & XD will feed about anything Did have one failure to eject with the Ruger out of about 14 or 15 hundred rounds. I was shooting cheap ammunition & that is the only time it has ever malfunctioned. Pretty sure it was the ammo.

Weedmonk
October 30, 2008, 09:44 PM
FWIW, we took a "straw poll" at the gun shop/shooting range I frequent. The question was: "What handgun would you take to the 'sand-box' if you could choose your own personal sidearm"? The majority answer was not 1911, it was Glock G17. Participants were current and past military. When asked why, the common answer was: "reliability".

kansas45
October 30, 2008, 11:50 PM
My XD's & P series Rugers have worked well with everything I put in them. I don't know if they would feed a HBWC or not, though..............probably not.:D

Mountie855
October 31, 2008, 11:27 PM
Another vote for 3rd gen S&W's- feed anything that fits in the magazine!

Carried them as duty guns in every form since the first 469, and can't remember a misfeed. 6906/3913 personal favorites.

plateshooter
November 1, 2008, 05:35 AM
P95 Rugers. I can't recall having a failure of any kind shooting many thousands of rounds of cheap Wolf, Bear, and reloads.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v618/plateshooter/P95.jpg

loop
November 1, 2008, 07:04 AM
My best guess is you ought to buy a Ruger, a Glock or some other relatively inexpensive self stuffer.

Lord knows, a 1911 would be far too confusing.

I'd take crappy accuracy over reliability any day.

rocinante
November 1, 2008, 08:20 AM
Another kudo for S&W 3rd gen. My 915 feeds and ejects everything.

IdahoLT1
November 1, 2008, 11:13 AM
Another vote for the Beretta 92. Its been so reliable, its almost been boring.

jocko
November 1, 2008, 11:50 AM
I don't have a gun in my arsenal that doesn't feed anythig I put in it. Why is that?/ Well for one reason, if it doesn't feed what I feed it, I PEDDLE IT. `







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weisse52
November 1, 2008, 01:29 PM
Colt 1911's.

spiroxlii
November 1, 2008, 05:01 PM
There are a lot of good guns noted in this thread. I do have something to say about 1911s, though. There are some people here who have listed specific 1911 pistols that are known to be reliable. As most of you know, there are many many companies making 1911 pattern pistols. They range from very affordable to very expensive, and cost isn't always a measure of quality or reliability.

In my personal quest for my very first 1911, I didn't have the luxury of buying a very expensive model, and I kinda wanted a no-frills (no ambidextrous controls, no beavertail, no lowered ejection port) model. I had heard good things about the Rock Island/Armscor 1911s, and that's what I was looking at when, for a number of reasons, I chose a slightly more expensive Springfield Armory GI45 instead. I am not pleased with it.

I can not speak for ALL 1911 pistols, because I only own one. What I can say from personal experience is that my Springfield Armory GI45 model 1911 pistol is accurate when it works, but it doesn't work 100% of the time. With almost all JHP ammo, it fails to feed. The nose of the round slams into the feed ramp and sticks instead of sliding into the chamber. With FMJ ammo, it works most of the time, but it will occasionally fail to go into battery (once every couple of mags). I've also noted at least two stovepipes in the first 500 rounds through this gun with both Atlanta Arms & Ammo and Magtech FMJ ammo.

The magazines I'm using are the original SA mag and two Kimber magazines. I am not limp wristing the gun. I don't have any similar problems with my other autoloaders.

I'm not slamming 1911s in general. If mine were reliable, I'd love it. It points naturally. It is easy to shoot tight groups with (when it cycles and fires properly). There are 1911s out there that are among the best fighting pistols in the world. Mine just isn't one of them. I would not carry this one in its current state unless all my other guns were stolen or destroyed first.

mljdeckard
November 1, 2008, 05:35 PM
If I had to grab a gun, sight unseen, origin unknown, and trust it to repeatedly go bang, no matter what, I would grab a Glock. For every reason INCLUDING ammo.

You STILL need to verify that any ammo you are trusting your life to will cycle reliably. (minimum 200 rounds, no failures.)

spiroxlii -My dad just bought the same pistol, and it eats up hydra-shoks and HSTs no problem. Did you contact SA? Older 'GI' pattern 1911s had a rep for not feeding hollow points, but I hadn't heard of one lately.

JZ06
November 1, 2008, 05:49 PM
seeing this is the auto loader topic question, i'm going to give props to my makarov, five seven(though it's a bit pricey) and glock 19c. as a matter of fact, my previous glock 21c, soon to be previous 32c(.357sig) have NEVER failed to feed ANYthing. my taurus pt-1911 has fed semi-wadcutters, about three different brand hp's and all fmj thus far(some high end 1911's are like three year olds hehe, they don't feed EVERY hp, or even ball). i used to own a beretta px4 9mm which was at the time, the most reliable accurate pistol i'd owned. well over 3900 fail free rounds. heck, i think that one would have cycled a peanut shell!

i guess i'm lucky to have some reliable automatics!

regarding the above post about the makarov being soot infested. my bulgarian last summer fired about 700 rounds. NOT cleaned, and it just kept going. lol, my father won't give me it back hehe, so i had to buy a russian ij-70. a few thou through that one, and nary a whimper.

lions
November 1, 2008, 09:41 PM
Beretta 92 (make it a PT92 for me). It has a nice feed ramp that it doesn't really even need, the top round in the magazine is lined up perfectly with the chamber.

I took 6 different loads of 9mm ammo (some fmj, some jhp) and mixed them all up and loaded 3 magazines then fired them all off as fast as I could out of my taurus, it didn't even blink. Thats my version of a feeding torture test.

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