Quit crying already


November 4, 2008, 11:30 PM
Tonight doesn't look good for the future of RKBA. That being said, get over it. No amount of complaining or belly aching will change the results of the election. This is now the time to join a RKBA organization, local or national and write write write your congressman telling them how important our RKBA is (since so many of them seem to fail to get the message). Why don't we make this thread a list of links to RKBA organizations?


add more please...

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November 4, 2008, 11:35 PM
Great thread MikePGS, my sentiments exactly.




November 4, 2008, 11:40 PM
Thank you Mike.

I couldn't agree more.

November 4, 2008, 11:50 PM

November 4, 2008, 11:54 PM
um I do fully plan to join there organizations and have sent my reps letters. That said, I am going to whine, bitch, cry, moan, and drool like Ive been sprayed with Bear mace until the hurt stops, and then I'm going to think of a way to succeed from the union (or just move to the Michigan U.P., thats basically how it is up there anyways!). Once I've wasted enough time to forget why I'm so upset, I'll write some more letters and spend some more money on RKBA groups

November 4, 2008, 11:56 PM

November 5, 2008, 12:01 AM

November 5, 2008, 12:03 AM
I think that the power and influence of these organizations is going to grow leaps and bounds.

The simple truth is, VERY few people can be considered 2nd amendment ACTIVISTS.

But almost every gun owner in the country can be considered a 2nd amendment REACTIVIST.

November 5, 2008, 12:08 AM
Join the NRA. If you're not a member, stop whining.

.38 Special
November 5, 2008, 12:10 AM
If you all want to do something useful, you might consider contacting the RNC and politely explaining to them that if they are to avoid this sort of debacle in the future, they should dump the neocons and RINOs and get back to basic conservative values of small government, low taxes, and individual freedom.

There's a lesson in here today, for those of us who care to learn it.

November 5, 2008, 12:12 AM
f you all want to do something useful, you might consider contacting the RNC and politely explaining to them that if they are to avoid this sort of debacle in the future, they should dump the neocons and RINOs and get back to basic conservative values of small government, low taxes, and individual freedom.
As a libertarian I'm contemplating just joining the GOP and working from the inside to change it back to what it should be.

November 5, 2008, 12:19 AM

November 5, 2008, 12:27 AM
The only thing that's certain about the next four years is that Obama will be on Pennsylvania Avenue. We can still influence the rest, and our task starts right now.

As for me, I've been procrastinating on joining the NRA for too long. I'm happy to report that as of a few minutes ago, I am an NRA member.

The fight's not over. It's just begun.

November 5, 2008, 12:28 AM
If you all want to do something useful, you might consider contacting the RNC and politely explaining to them that if they are to avoid this sort of debacle in the future, they should dump the neocons and RINOs and get back to basic conservative values of small government, low taxes, and individual freedom.

Funny - I just sent this to the Democratic party:

Congratulations. I am a lifelong Republican that voted for Sen Obama - my first time ever voting for a Democratic Presidential candidate. Please don't blow it. You won by courting and winning the vote of independents, centrists and moderate Republicans. Pay them back before you start tossing favors to the fringe. Stay away from gun control, stay away from fringe issues and fix the economy please.

Good luck, President elect Obama. I will be praying for you, soon to be my new President and my new commander in chief.

November 5, 2008, 12:38 AM
Tonight doesn't look good for the future of RKBA.

I disagree. Country is closely divided. The national vote only went to Barak by 2%. Gun control was not an issue at all - and that it was, it was only to the extent Democrats could run far far away from Brady et al.

Obama and Pelosi are smart politicians. Dick Durbin is the best vote counter there is. They are VERY well aware of how fragile their majority is, and won't allow gun control to do them in again. Heck, looks like we held off the filibuster proof Senate (and will have an easier time picking up seats in 2010) . . . the time is right to turn the 2nd Amendment into a SUpreme Court litmus test ala Roe v Wade.

Sheldon J
November 5, 2008, 12:46 AM
Just think... if only 10% of the money that was raised to elect McCain could have been donated to the pro 2A groups then just think of what we could accomplish...

evan price
November 5, 2008, 12:51 AM

Ohio's best location for Concealed Carry information and assistance.

Buddy Rabbit
November 5, 2008, 12:52 AM
Good God I hate "organizations", and being affiliated with one. I am an independent U.S. citizen, and honestly enjoy the privacy that my country's freedoms afford to me.

Tonight, I joined the NRA.


November 5, 2008, 12:53 AM
I will refrain at this time from criticizing those who might have joined the NRA too late, and welcome everyone who now sees the light. if ALL gun owners were NRA members, we would have nothing to worry about. YOU NOW UNDERSTAND, how important this is, and the work won't get done by itself.

If you order from Brownells.com, at the checkout, they ask if you want to donate to the NRA. Give them $5 too.

November 5, 2008, 01:32 AM
If you order from Brownells.com, at the checkout, they ask if you want to donate to the NRA. Give them $5 too.

MidwayUSA does the same thing.

November 5, 2008, 02:02 AM
To everyone who joined the NRa, a quick welcome, and a thank you.

November 5, 2008, 02:40 AM
I joined the NRA about 6 months ago. Im going to talk to my son and wife about joining too.

November 5, 2008, 04:12 AM
God Bless America. He didn't get my vote, but I hope the best for America on the whole.

November 5, 2008, 05:40 AM
Grass roots NC: http://www.grnc.org/

Gun Owners of America: http://www.gunowners.org/

NRA, of course

2nd Amendment Foundation: http://www.saf.org/


***Here is one group NOT to support: American Hunters and Shooters Association (AHSA) ***

JT in VA
November 5, 2008, 05:44 AM
In previous elections crime control has been a significant issue. It was not in this one as the economy, energy crisis, etc., garnered far more attention. When the economy improves, look for other issues such as crime to come to the surface again. When this occurs, some will equate crime control with gun control.

November 5, 2008, 06:39 AM
Michigan Coalition of Responsible Gun Owners:


November 5, 2008, 07:46 AM
Arizona Citizens Defense League - AZCDL.org - active and successful legislative activists

Thin Black Line
November 5, 2008, 07:46 AM
...and do something.

Other posters are currently correct in that the Hill is held by a narrow margin
and the left-wing will be wary of anything that could throw the balance of
power back in 2010. However, those of use old enough to remember 1992
through 1994 know quite well how willing members of the radical left are in
sacrificing their own in moving "their cause" forward. In other words, expect
a major gun control bill within the next two years. (If you doubt my predictive
abilities, please read my posts over the last two years to see how we all
arrived at this point this morning).

I disagree that the economy is going to improve over the next year since all
the numbers, bank sales, etc point to the opposite happening. You haven't
even seen the start of the real economic fall-out yet! That said, history
shows crime gets worse as the overall economy gets worse --does the
Great Depression and the original machine gun ban come to mind? As things
go down hill, gun control/crime control will be on the top of the list when
it comes to supposedly fixing things and making "change" lead the way. So
you can count on gun control bills.

Things you can do:

1. Join the NRA. Yes, I know all the usual reasons not to, but it's kind of
like only having one car in the garage and then complaining about driving it
because the gas milage, speed, seating, isn't exactly the way we would
like it. At this point, though, walking by yourself is not an option since you
will miss the rally ahead. Meanwhile, the opposite side has plenty of
public transportation to utilize for their cause. Quit griping, it's time for us
to car-pool.

2. Get involved at the local level. Some state orgs are better than others.
Likewise, some states are excellent at maintaining the 2A and the real
threat comes at them only from the federal level. Your state org may not
seem like it's really needed at your level, but you will find they're often the
people who are best informed at what's coming done the pike.

3. If you're a veteran get involved w/ the American Legion and/or VFW. No,
these are not 2A orgs, but they're the people who are connected to other
local movers and shakers in your community. Once you're a member, get a
Garand through the CMP --let their sales numbers show the bureaucrats
above that we are very involved and active.

4. Not a veteran? Fine, again there are other local orgs that may not be
2A, but are great for making connections throughout your community. This
can be a place of worship, a community business org, or some other non-profit.

5. Go to a range that has members other than your immediate family. Say
Hi and meet some people. Take a new person target shooting or hunting.

6. Run for office. Some of us are information-processing introverts who make
far better back-stage consultants rather than council members, representatives,
etc. We know this. I'm asking those of you who can work a room and press
the flesh to put your well-refined extrovert abilities for making synergy or
whatever it's called today to use for our cause. I promise you will have
plenty of opportunities for social gathering where people will loan you all
sorts of weapons and free ammunition.

7. Think long term. The other side does. I know our side has a tendency to
say "enough talking already" before slinging the EBR over one shoulder, grabbing
a vine and swinging across the alligator-infested river. However, we have to
be wary of landing in the quick-sand on the other side. Yes, sometimes the
introverts are far too cautious when the risk needs to be taken, but other
times the extroverts and the pack they're leading find themselves in the
quagmire and say "How did that happen?!" We need to listen to each other,
PLAN AHEAD, and then MOVE TOGETHER. But for this to work, we all need
to be humble and honest within our own house.

8. Quit crying, re-read this list, and start checking it off.

November 5, 2008, 07:58 AM
I appreciate Mike's sentiment whole heartedly.

We have a sticky on 2A groups and any new ones you can think of here should be added. http://thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=292484

November 5, 2008, 08:07 AM
If you are a Texan, and not a member of the TSRA, then shame on you!


November 5, 2008, 08:20 AM
I too am going to be noisy. It seems like the only ones that are heard are the B&M crowd. When trying to do it the correct way, we get shoveled dirt on top of us. If you are Loud, whiney, you get it done. I guess the squeeky wheel saying is true after all.

November 5, 2008, 09:16 AM
In addition to joining NRA, please donate to the specific Congress lobbying arm, the Institute for Legal Action:


Also, for Oregon residents, PLEASE join Oregon Firearms Federation. They have a history of strong successes, most recently in forcing the Portland Port Authority to acknowledge they had no right to ban CHLs from the non-sterile areas of the Portland airport (this had been a long protracted fight):


November 5, 2008, 09:45 AM
Now Klona has it right.
The NRA cannot by law lobby or espouse a political opinion.
The NRA is an educational organization.
Therefore all contributions and membership dues are tax deductible.

The NRA-ILA is where it's at. They're the lobbyists.
They're the hammer.
Contributions to the ILA are not tax deductible.
Send money anyway. I do, but I won't join the NRA.

With any gun rights organization. If the dues aren't tax deductible it's a lobbying organization. A good thing


November 5, 2008, 10:02 AM
Posts disappear?

We're getting some low road comments, dramatic thread veer and just ranting. That's not what Activism is for.

If we don't have a 2A activist group in the 2A group stickie, then post it here (better yet, go look and post it there), but Activism is not your place to whine about the election. It's your place to discuss how to accomplish things and this thread is about what groups are out there to help you accomplish them.

Take the emo stuff to some other board, we got work to do here.

November 5, 2008, 10:05 AM
I think that we need to concentrate on getting the final rule making on Carry in National Parks out of the interior. It would be a good test of how Obama will handle gun issue. If we have carry legalized in national parks, and Obama quickly issues an executive order to reverse that, then we know we will be in for a rough ride on RKBA issues. If he leaves it alone, then many other RKBA issues will also likely be left alone.

Write you Representative and Senators to push for a DOI decision on Carry in National parks.

November 5, 2008, 10:52 AM
new NRA Lifetime Member here...

Nathaniel Firethorn
November 5, 2008, 11:26 AM
New Jersey Coalition for Self-Defense


- NF

November 5, 2008, 12:01 PM
Here's a few I'm partial to:


While I don't believe the President Elect has the votes to start taking guns out of people's safes... he does have the votes to close the 'gun show loophole' (more properly referred to as the 'Joe wants to sell Bill a gun' loophole), and the votes to implement a new AWB, most likely with more teeth than the one Clinton imposed, and sure as heck without the 10 year shelf life... and probably a ban on magazines that hold more than 10 rounds.

The louder us bitter/clingy folks scream 'NO', the better our chances of avoiding this garbage. Make sure the newly elected majority knows that they'll pay dearly for stepping on us. The gun issue was avoided like the plague during the election... let's make sure they continue to keep the 2nd amendment at arms length for the next 2 years.

Support the NRA, and your local gun rights organizations!

November 5, 2008, 12:38 PM

November 5, 2008, 12:49 PM

November 5, 2008, 12:58 PM
Is this just waiting in the wings or what??


November 5, 2008, 01:35 PM
8. Quit crying, re-read this list, and start checking it off.

Also Amen to the TSRA (Texas State Rifle Association). An outstanding organization.

November 6, 2008, 10:41 PM
Hey, if I'm not a Jew, can I still join JPFO?

November 6, 2008, 11:00 PM
Hey, if I'm not a Jew, can I still join JPFO?
Yes, you can.

November 7, 2008, 12:08 AM
Did no one see #41??!

November 7, 2008, 12:50 AM

Address Gun Violence in Cities: As president, Barack Obama would repeal the Tiahrt Amendment, which restricts the ability of local law enforcement to access important gun trace information, and give police officers across the nation the tools they need to solve gun crimes and fight the illegal arms trade. Obama and Biden also favor commonsense measures that respect the Second Amendment rights of gun owners, while keeping guns away from children and from criminals who shouldn't have them. They support closing the gun show loophole and making guns in this country childproof. They also support making the expired federal Assault Weapons Ban permanent, as such weapons belong on foreign battlefields and not on our streets.

November 7, 2008, 01:25 AM
If I would have run for President on the Republican ticket, it would have not made a spit's difference. Obama's gang rolled over us as if we barely existed. NRAs latest publications only enflamed us shooters, apparently not many other Americans. The Electorial College inundated any chance McCain might have had per popular vote. 48% still ain't bad. It's not like Obama garnered 92% of the popular vote, after all. Still, we now have a new Commander-in-Chief of the United States Military Forces. We must SUPPORT his sworn duty to protect us from IRAN, the third most powerful military force in the modern world. Pray he prevents World War III, without surrendering the most potent force on our planet. cliffy

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