Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow
November 5, 2008, 10:04 AM
Holy Fake-Muscle-Suit, Batman - have youens looked at this scope?!
I looked through one last night and immediately had to buy it. For around $250, it has some of the clearest optics going, comparable to a high-end Leupold, looks to me, and here's the kicker - the eye relief is just insane. It's literally like 8-10", just like an EER "scout" scope, on 3 power (this is a 3-9x40mm). I'm not exaggerating at all when I say that it is clear from edge to edge, with no blackout, EASILY at 8" from the eye on 3 power. The only scope I've seen personally that even comes close to this eye relief is a Trijicon Accupoint. Of course, I don't get out too much, so maybe I haven't seen everything.
Anyway, if I had known about this scope's features back when, I would probably have about 10 of them by now, on many different rifles. If it holds up, with that kind of eye relief, it is THE scope for big boomers (muzzleloaders, slug guns, big bore leverguns, .338s and up, etc.) - blows the old eye relief kings away (Leupold & Trijicon). This scope - assuming it works - will surpass the Sightron S2 as the best value going, IMO, unless I'm missing something - I'm crappin' ya negatory.
Miscellany:
1. Bonuses: It's got a BDC which is nice. This scope is marketed as a "muzzleloader scope" but of course could be used for anything. The BDC is set for a muzzleloader load, but I'd guess that the holdover markings would approximate a bottlenecked centerfire, but just at different ranges.** Next, it's got easy finger-adjustable covered turrets, with nice audible and tactile clicks. Comes in both regular and camo versions.
Dunno where the parallax error free is set - anyone know? I'd guess that since it's marketed as a 250 yard scope, it would have "normal" parallax-free setting of 100 or 150.
2. I grabbed a Nikon "Team Primos" scope (which is *supposed to be* the same scope), and compared the two side by side. The Team Primos is definitely NOT the same scope - the Team Primos is inferior to the Omega. They look the same at first, but at long eye relief (over 5"), then the Team Primos begins to black out around the edges, whereas the Omega does not.
3. Drawback: This is a SHORT scope, requiring mounts/rings that are pretty close together. It's gonna require offset rings or not work at all on many rifles. I couldn't put it on my Savage 10 ML II without getting offset rings.
4. Ironically, and completely separate tangential subject, I also looked at a Nikon Prostaff, which had optics that appear to be INFERIOR to my current Prostaffs I already have. There was a fair amount of fishbowling going on, which is something you normally don't see unless you're blessed enough to look through a Simmons, etc.
Whaddya think - go check one out.
**The four "circle crosshairs" below the center are supposed to represent holds for 150, 200, 225, and 250 yards for a 250 gr bullet with 150 gr of BP, when the main crosshair has your 100 yard zero So for a faster bottlenecked centerfire cartridge rifle, maybe these would hit very close at 200, 250, 300, 350...??? In addition, look at this quote:
By using a circle [...] instead of a dot or hash mark, you have
multiple aiming points (top, middle and bottom
of the circle) to customize the reticle to your
specific firearm.
So due to this multiple aiming point setup, you could pretty easily get it to hit quite close at round numbers - 200, 250, etc., for your particular rifle/load, by picking and knowing which to use (top, bottom or middle of the four circles - this actually gives you a total of 12 aiming points in addition to the center one - but as a practical matter, the top two circles are touching, so you really only have 11 aiming points in addition to the main one).
I looked through one last night and immediately had to buy it. For around $250, it has some of the clearest optics going, comparable to a high-end Leupold, looks to me, and here's the kicker - the eye relief is just insane. It's literally like 8-10", just like an EER "scout" scope, on 3 power (this is a 3-9x40mm). I'm not exaggerating at all when I say that it is clear from edge to edge, with no blackout, EASILY at 8" from the eye on 3 power. The only scope I've seen personally that even comes close to this eye relief is a Trijicon Accupoint. Of course, I don't get out too much, so maybe I haven't seen everything.
Anyway, if I had known about this scope's features back when, I would probably have about 10 of them by now, on many different rifles. If it holds up, with that kind of eye relief, it is THE scope for big boomers (muzzleloaders, slug guns, big bore leverguns, .338s and up, etc.) - blows the old eye relief kings away (Leupold & Trijicon). This scope - assuming it works - will surpass the Sightron S2 as the best value going, IMO, unless I'm missing something - I'm crappin' ya negatory.
Miscellany:
1. Bonuses: It's got a BDC which is nice. This scope is marketed as a "muzzleloader scope" but of course could be used for anything. The BDC is set for a muzzleloader load, but I'd guess that the holdover markings would approximate a bottlenecked centerfire, but just at different ranges.** Next, it's got easy finger-adjustable covered turrets, with nice audible and tactile clicks. Comes in both regular and camo versions.
Dunno where the parallax error free is set - anyone know? I'd guess that since it's marketed as a 250 yard scope, it would have "normal" parallax-free setting of 100 or 150.
2. I grabbed a Nikon "Team Primos" scope (which is *supposed to be* the same scope), and compared the two side by side. The Team Primos is definitely NOT the same scope - the Team Primos is inferior to the Omega. They look the same at first, but at long eye relief (over 5"), then the Team Primos begins to black out around the edges, whereas the Omega does not.
3. Drawback: This is a SHORT scope, requiring mounts/rings that are pretty close together. It's gonna require offset rings or not work at all on many rifles. I couldn't put it on my Savage 10 ML II without getting offset rings.
4. Ironically, and completely separate tangential subject, I also looked at a Nikon Prostaff, which had optics that appear to be INFERIOR to my current Prostaffs I already have. There was a fair amount of fishbowling going on, which is something you normally don't see unless you're blessed enough to look through a Simmons, etc.
Whaddya think - go check one out.
**The four "circle crosshairs" below the center are supposed to represent holds for 150, 200, 225, and 250 yards for a 250 gr bullet with 150 gr of BP, when the main crosshair has your 100 yard zero So for a faster bottlenecked centerfire cartridge rifle, maybe these would hit very close at 200, 250, 300, 350...??? In addition, look at this quote:
By using a circle [...] instead of a dot or hash mark, you have
multiple aiming points (top, middle and bottom
of the circle) to customize the reticle to your
specific firearm.
So due to this multiple aiming point setup, you could pretty easily get it to hit quite close at round numbers - 200, 250, etc., for your particular rifle/load, by picking and knowing which to use (top, bottom or middle of the four circles - this actually gives you a total of 12 aiming points in addition to the center one - but as a practical matter, the top two circles are touching, so you really only have 11 aiming points in addition to the main one).