Brady Campaign's Post Election Statement


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RoosterCT
November 5, 2008, 10:19 AM
:fire::cuss:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TdF5J5c4Z0

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Darthbauer
November 5, 2008, 10:33 AM
So what is a common sense gun law?

Brady people make me want to :barf:

RoosterCT
November 5, 2008, 10:41 AM
The guy has quite the nerve doesn't he? Thinking that the Dem's getting in was an explicit approval of gun laws? :banghead: This was all about the economy.

Tarvis
November 5, 2008, 11:12 AM
Frickin' ridiculous. Show me a single crime the Brady Campaign has prevented and I will be astonished. I can not understand why they blatantly ignore the statistics that have shown increasing the regulation of guns has no effect on crime what-so-ever. This is a classic example of the talkers vs. the do-ers. Talking about a problem and making empty statements is very easy, as is ignoring statistics and proven facts. Actually solving a problem takes hard work and gumption, not feel good laws and ideas. If they plan on curbing gun crime, the solution is to enforce the laws we have and stop attacking lawful gun owners.

David904
November 5, 2008, 11:13 AM
He seems to have forgotten about the recent USSC ruling that gun ownership is an individual right.

Why are people so hell bent on throwing away their rights?

Ruggles
November 5, 2008, 11:35 AM
I think he clearly states at the end that gun confiscation was not an option due to the recent SC ruling. That is him admitting defeat for his group in a big way IMO. The entire tone of the video was over shadowed by the Heller ruling and this rather defeatist statement from one of the most aggressive anti gun groups in American makes me feel much better.

Are they still going to try and destroy the heart of the 2A? Of course they are but he clearly his tone and message were much lower keyed than a few months ago.

RP88
November 5, 2008, 11:42 AM
they'll become foaming aggressive mad once/if things ever start to swing their way again

DoubleTapDrew
November 5, 2008, 12:02 PM
"Shall not be infringed"=/= "Reasonable Restrictions"
I like the comment about the "gun lobby's rhetoric and scare tactics". Talk about calling the kettle black. Go write another article about "50 CALIBER TERROR!!!OMGNOESSSS!!!"

Mrs. Armoredman
November 5, 2008, 12:06 PM
That witch makes me sick. She always wants to find fault in everything.
Just remember the words from our greatest president. "From my cold dead hands."

armoredman
November 5, 2008, 12:32 PM
Can't say anything High Road...we'll see how much protection Heller actually gave us.

mata777
November 5, 2008, 01:01 PM
This my prediction. I belive the new regime will wait untill there is another school shooting and just use it as a building block for their "common sense gun laws). I also think that the new awb would include firearms you would never have dreamed of. I think it will be like other countries where all military calibers are banned. :cuss:

CRITGIT
November 5, 2008, 01:09 PM
The guy has quite the nerve doesn't he? Thinking that the Dem's getting in was an explicit approval of gun laws? This was all about the economy
This election was so much more than a single issue like the economy.
It was about a new direction. Some may not get it yet!
One party is in total disarray. It'll be nice to put intellect and literacy back in the WH.
Gun issues are not a priority for the immediate future. It's simply the pendulum coming back after a violent swing right.


CRITGIT

Phil DeGraves
November 5, 2008, 01:19 PM
It'll be nice to put intellect and literacy back in the WH.


But that won't happen in the foreseeable future.

It's simply the pendulum coming back after a violent swing right.


Uh, where have you been? Two years ago, the Dems took control of Congress. And look what they did to the economy in that time. When and where was this "violent swing right"? That was in the 80s under Reagan.

halfbreed808
November 5, 2008, 01:24 PM
STUPID IS, AS STUPID DOES.:barf::fire::cuss::banghead::confused:

Some people just don't get it.

"It's not their fault, it's their parents fault. They didn't raise 'em right." 1st SGT. R. Kepa

M203Sniper
November 5, 2008, 01:57 PM
This election was so much more than a single issue like the economy.
It was about a new direction. Some may not get it yet!
One party is in total disarray. It'll be nice to put intellect and literacy back in the WH.
Gun issues are not a priority for the immediate future. It's simply the pendulum coming back after a violent swing right.


CRITGIT

So we can expect competency and literacy from Bill Clinton?
Don't you remember the first time he got elected?
He just came back with a tan.

You can call it a new, improved, change, whatever. I served in the US Marine Corps under the first Clinton Administration. I remember how bad things were.

You just keep your doors locked and talk to strangers from behind something.
Don't let anyone in who wasn't invited. Warrant or no warrant.
Big brother was watching. Right now he's in the planning phase. I suggest you do the same.

doc540
November 5, 2008, 02:01 PM
"It's simply the pendulum coming back after a violent swing right."

Guess I missed that swing during the last eight years' unprecedented expansion of federal government power.

Frog48
November 5, 2008, 02:14 PM
That is him admitting defeat for his group in a big way IMO.

I tend to agree. It sounded as if he was doing alot of backpedaling.

Win52D
November 5, 2008, 02:26 PM
The guy is a bozo. Other than a criminal I don't think there is a rational person in the US that doesn't want to see an end to gun violence. As far as common sense laws are concerned, the Brady Campaign and and the gun control lobby have introduced some of the lamest laws around meant to grab the guns and not be concerned with violence.....

Why not work on the root causes of gun violence and impose severe punative actions for those that commit the crimes?? Harder to do yet much more productive.

Lewis130
November 5, 2008, 03:25 PM
The words 'right' and 'subject to reasonable restriction' in the same sentance...
Send the guy a dictionary so he can look up 'oxymoron'. He can look up twat while he's there, too.

mbt2001
November 5, 2008, 03:34 PM
:barf:

The sad fact of the matter is that these idiots acutally think they had something to do with this election, that people were voting based on "gun politics", which isn't true at all. I am sure that it was the last thing on the mind of the Supports of Obama at the time. It may be something that they "generally" agree with, but wasn't why they voted that day.

novaDAK
November 5, 2008, 03:59 PM
Look at that. This "Post Election" statement was uploaded to Youtube on Nov. 3rd

BMacklem
November 5, 2008, 04:12 PM
What I find most hilarious is how he says..." This is what we've always been saying since the supreme court handed down the Heller verdict..." but that's CERTAINLY NOT what they had been saying up to that point before the supreme court case.
It's just a matter of time before they try to use Obama and a dem controlled congress to pass all the sorts of controls and bans using an "interpratation" of Heller so they can attempt a major ban/confiscation.

Probably won't happen until The big O has been in office for at least a year and a half.

PILMAN
November 5, 2008, 04:31 PM
Look at that. This "Post Election" statement was uploaded to Youtube on Nov. 3rd

Wow I just noticed that, this must have been planned, or they made the video in the event obama was elected to release, but seems rather....strange it was uploaded the 3rd when obama was elected on the 4th.

No Fear
November 5, 2008, 04:58 PM
Quit wasting youtube's bandwidth.

Click away here: http://www.bradycampaign.org/

Huddog
November 5, 2008, 05:00 PM
Sensible gun laws to Bradyites equals complete confiscation. Remember my loyal comrades the last time the Democrats lost control of Congress gun control was a major issue. Keep the faith and continue the fight. We now have a Supreme Court interpretation that the second amendment protects an individual right and many more ccw states than back then. I am not saying they won't try it again but I bet they think harder about it this time.

Mrs. Armoredman
November 5, 2008, 05:12 PM
Common gun laws? Give me a break. The Bradys can stuff thier common gun laws. WITCH:cuss::cuss:

RPCVYemen
November 5, 2008, 05:35 PM
I assume the big winner in this one is the AHSA - they endorsed the winner. My guess is that they will have a heck of a lot more clout with the new administration than the NRA - who endorsed the loser. That's probably means they will have a bigger voice in determining what are (and are not) reasonable restrictions.

Mike

dpart77
November 5, 2008, 05:46 PM
Heller and the 2nd amendment don't say anything about protecting ones right to ammunition.

BEWARE

Nugilum
November 5, 2008, 05:54 PM
I hope they ARE that stupid, because if they try to enact anything again, the political backlash should be just as strong as it was in 1994.

Tacbandit
November 5, 2008, 05:55 PM
This is gonna be fun...let the games begin...Oh, brother!!!!!

ArfinGreebly
November 5, 2008, 06:11 PM
See, you can't fool all of the people all of the time!


There is more to the original quote.

JImbothefiveth
November 5, 2008, 06:22 PM
My guess is that they will have a heck of a lot more clout with the new administration than the NRA
If I'm thinking of the same organization you are, that's a very bad thing. The NRA has spoken out against that group, as they are actually anti-gun. They want another '94 ban, and they'd probably also be okay with a handgun ban.(I guess they don't care about handgun hunters.)

SuperNaut
November 5, 2008, 06:25 PM
I assume the big winner in this one is the AHSA - they endorsed the winner. My guess is that they will have a heck of a lot more clout with the new administration than the NRA - who endorsed the loser. That's probably means they will have a bigger voice in determining what are (and are not) reasonable restrictions.

Since the AHSA is Joyce Foundation astro-turf you might be right. Difference is, the NRA has deeper pockets and more boots on the ground.

RPCVYemen
November 5, 2008, 06:32 PM
If I'm thinking of the same organization you are, that's a very bad thing.

I am not defending the organization - and I am not endorsing them. But while winning in American politics isn't everything, it's pretty dang important. And AHSA endorsed the winner. They will have Obama's ear.

Mike

RPCVYemen
November 5, 2008, 06:36 PM
Difference is, the NRA has deeper pockets and more boots on the ground.

Did they deliver votes last night?

I am not arguing, I really don't know. My impression is that NRA endorsement didn't help anyone last night, but I really don't have the stats. Has anyone looked at the impact of NRA endorsements on the results?

Mike

SuperNaut
November 5, 2008, 06:46 PM
Did they deliver votes last night? I'm not sure what that has to do with anything? The supposition was if the AHSA would have the ear of the President. I don't think it matters; with the NRA we have a big powerful actual lobby and the AHSA is a paper mask for the Joyce Foundation.

Maelstrom
November 5, 2008, 07:52 PM
Heller and the 2nd amendment don't say anything about protecting ones right to ammunition.

BEWARE

Sort of like saying, "Sure you can vote. As long as you show us that you can read, first."

The backdoor bans won't fool the Supreme Court.

Sepia
November 5, 2008, 10:00 PM
Backdoor bans won't fool the supreme court, your right, but with the number of leftists in the court and the new ones that Obama is bound to appoint, they might not even need a back door issue to ban them... While I do think its possible for groups like this to get laws put up for vote, I think that there are enough gun supporting democrats (I know, sounds like an oxymoron) in congress to help keep it down and if for some reason they don't I am confident that Americans would be willing to take up arms to keep their rights in tact, I know that I would. The govt will not take my rights so long as I'm alive.

Airburst
November 5, 2008, 10:44 PM
Gun control via the Democrat controlled Congress will be passed and signed by the soon-to-be Democrat in the White House within the first year or two. You can bank on it. Nothing is being said now, because rightly so, the economy is Number One on the hit list. Once that is addressed, you can be assured that the Dems will stop at nothing to confiscate or at the very least regulate gun ownership out of existance. I wouldn't put it pass them to try and call a Constitutional Convention with the expressed purpose of repealing the Second Ammendment. JHMO.

#shooter
November 5, 2008, 10:47 PM
Geez, I bet he wet his pants once Obama was elected. Lets see of Obama keeps his word, I am not holding my breath.

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