Taurus .38 special...good gun?


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cdove72
November 5, 2008, 03:09 PM
Girlfriend wants gun for protection, been all over town in search of a gun and seem to found a good one at Gander mountain.....its a taurus .357magnum that can also handle .38 specials.....sound like a good gun for her???

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Majic
November 5, 2008, 03:28 PM
Depends on the model. She may not like shooting one of the featherweight snubbies. Also any revolver chambered for the .357 magnum can shoot the .38 spl.

krs
November 5, 2008, 05:02 PM
We've got a Taurus .38, model 85 snubbie. It's all steel and a nice little shooter. Came with rubber grips that make it pretty comfy.

Friendly, Don't Fire!
November 5, 2008, 05:11 PM
It depends if you don't mind that additional size and weight over a regular 38 special +P.

Is concealabilty a factor?

Personally, I wouldn't buy a Taurus. I've always had Smiths.

Eagles6
November 5, 2008, 05:37 PM
Taurus are good if you can't buy American. They have a clone of the S&W Bodyguard with a hammer shroud which I think is the best concealable revolver. Their service has been good from my experience.
Have you looked for a used American revolver?

3pairs12
November 5, 2008, 05:44 PM
My wife shoots the Tuarus .38 spl. I think its the 850, i don't know though. Stainless stubbie with concealed hammer and rubber grips. She likes it a lot. Doesn't have unmanagable recoil for her, which was a must. She can typically burn through 100 rounds at the range with no problem. I say go for it.

JR47
November 6, 2008, 11:43 AM
Taurus are good if you can't buy American. They have a clone of the S&W Bodyguard with a hammer shroud which I think is the best concealable revolver. Their service has been good from my experience.
Have you looked for a used American revolver?

Clones indicate that the parts are the same. They aren't. Taurus uses a different ignition system than S&W. Very few parts interchange. A clone 1911, as an example, uses few, or no, proprietary parts, allowing interchange.

The XD, and the M&P look basically like a Glock, but they aren't clones.:)

BHP FAN
November 6, 2008, 10:44 PM
I've got the little 85 in stainless,even thought it's a 5 shot .38 only,it's a sweet shooting 'lil gun,and I HIGHLY recommend it.

shooter429
November 6, 2008, 10:53 PM
Taurus guns are very poorly made with little if any customer support. Their lifetime service means it will take you a lifetime to get service, if you are lucky. I have had several and they were all lemons, from the .22s to .38 snubs and .357s, to .44s, 9s .40s and .45s. I have had them all and they were all junk. I tried to get some fixed, but gave up after several months of waiting and going back and forth and around and around with them.

A snub .357 is a good idea since it can be loaded with anything from target .38s to bear stopping magnums. But do you and your girlfreind a favor and look at some quality guns like the Ruger SP101s or GP100s or, better, IMO Smith and Wesson J-frames or even L-frames with the 2-3" barrels. You will spend a little more up front, but save yourself a lot of money and headaches down the line. Plus, you may save your GFs life.

Happy hunting :)

Shooter429

John Wayne
November 6, 2008, 11:22 PM
I have a Taurus 94. The difference between it and old Smith revolvers is night and day.

Out of the box, my 94 had to be sent back to the factory. The cylinder wouldn't turn properly and kept getting stuck. I received it back, and while it functions correctly now, is not nearly as accurate as my other guns. I attribute its inaccuracy to its horrible timing. FWIW, turnaround time including shipping was exactly one month and the box stated it went back to Brazil. My PT-140 on the other hand, has been great with no problems at all.

I would also not suggest a snub nosed .357 for a first time shooter. The excessive recoil and short sight radius will only encourage flinching and make her uninterested in shooting.

I'd suggest an older Smith model 10. They're a dime a dozen, with most going for $150-250 depending on condition. The trigger is much better as is the timing, as long as it's been properly cared for.

1858rem
November 6, 2008, 11:30 PM
shooter429, from the .22s to .38 snubs and .357s, to .44s, 9s .40s and .45s. I have had them all and they were all junk why did you buy so many guns from them if you knew they were junk:scrutiny:

shooter429
November 6, 2008, 11:36 PM
I guess I was a bit overly optomistic in my younger days. Not to mention the price tags are very nice, so I kept hoping for a better product-kinda like the Japanese cars or even Hyundai. My fist ones were poor, but they got better over time. Now they are about as good as other cars on the road. The Hondas became really great. Sadly, Taurus has not gotten better over time, despite lots of technological advances and design updates, their execution and quality as well as service remain abysmal. I finally gave up hope and conceded to the obvious. They are comitted to turning a profit without increasing quality or customer service. In fact, I think they might be worse now than in their earlier days. They are poor quality products for not so cheap prices.

Avoid them like Avian flu.
Shooter429

John Wayne
November 6, 2008, 11:39 PM
I guess I should add that I had the gunsmith I bought the gun send it back, rather than contacting Taurus myself. I don't know if this had any impact on the speedy turnaround time.

1858rem
November 6, 2008, 11:44 PM
we have an old 38 S&W special ctg, 4" barrel, i dunno what kind of loads its rated for, was grandpops when he was on the police force i think. shoots real well matt black along the top really reduces glare, i think i saw a 38 S&W(probably not the same model) in the paper for 200 recently, so they can be had cheap.

JR47
November 7, 2008, 10:53 AM
Taurus began as an import through Interarms, in the 1980s. That's less than 30 years. How can anyone have bought so many of these guns, and 100% of them all be bad? NOBODY will continue to buy from such a company.

The interesting part is that so many people have had much better service, and products, from Taurus than the nay-sayers can account for.

I own an even dozen, some of them 20+ years old. They range from .22 to .45 ACP, and none has had to be returned because of a factory failure. Many have well over 10K though them, at that. The chances of, over 20+ years, always picking up a 100% gun should be impossible, given the ratios brought here by the Taurus-bashers Assoc. :)

What type of personal protection? CCW, or just for at home? The at-home gun can easily be a 4" version. The heavier weight, and longer sight radius, will make shooting any load more comfortable, and accurate.

If you had started this with saying that you wanted to buy a Ruger, the same idiot remarks would have been made. Had you wanted a Smith, you would have been counseled to buy an older one, without "that dangerous lock".

Some people seem to thrive on telling others that their choice is always wrong.

Coyote Hunter
November 7, 2008, 11:34 AM
I carried a stainless model 85 in the late 80's for a backup and sometimes off duty gun as a LEO. I used 125 JHP +P ammo and it was a good, accurate little gun that warded off abuse and weather and ankel holsters and coat pockets. I highly recommend one as (mine at the time) weighed a little more than the S&W model 36 so recoil was a little better.

Brian Williams
November 7, 2008, 11:50 AM
Taurus makes a good gun.
Notice I said good not great.

Now for the IMPORTANT STUFF.
Go to WWW.CorneredCat.com
Take your girlfriend to the gun shop and direct the employee that you are only there to provide funds and that said employee is to find whatever gun your little sweety desires. When that is done, have said employee fit her with whatever holster and other carry devices that she desires.
Then after she fills out all of the forms and paperwork, you pull out your credit card and pay for it.
Buying a gun to carry includes the Belt, Holster, Reserve ammo carriers and carry ammo along with the time and ammo to know how to use the thing in problem situations.

It is a great idea to get a person a self-defense tool but they need to know how to use it and how to carry it.

JR47
November 7, 2008, 02:15 PM
Mr. Williams, to hear tell from these pages, there are NO great guns. Somebody always has a problem with whatever you put up.:)

ronto
November 9, 2008, 05:03 PM
A "Lifetime Guarantee" is no good when you're dead because your Taurus malfunctioned...Get a Ruger or S&W.

JR47
November 9, 2008, 05:06 PM
A "Lifetime Guarantee" is no good when you're dead because your Taurus malfunctioned...Get a Ruger or S&W.

Why, is there any difference in your life-span if either of the other mentioned malfunctions? You know, like that lock on the S&W that everyone here screams about, or the problems with Ruger that are also outlined on this forum?

Bo
November 10, 2008, 08:57 AM
I've got a Taurus 650 SS 357 with the concealed hammer. I carry it with 38+P+. It has always gone bang when I pulled the trigger. Never a malfunction. Not all Taurus are junk. You can get a lemon in any brand. I can carry it in my coat pocket and fire through it if necessary.

aimbotter
November 10, 2008, 09:10 AM
i have been tempting to buy a taurus 357 mag, but i figured i'd rather pay an extra $ and grab either a ruger or SW

Majic
November 10, 2008, 01:46 PM
A "Lifetime Guarantee" is no good when you're dead because your Taurus malfunctioned...Get a Ruger or S&W.
Neither Ruger or S&W have closed down their repair facility due to lack of work.

Monster Zero
November 12, 2008, 09:43 AM
Take a look at the Ruger SP101. If you're interested in CCW, the Smith 642/442 is really "the only" CCW piece in the world.

The rest are all imitations. :)

Walkalong
November 12, 2008, 09:56 AM
I have a Taurus revolver, and so does my buddy. Both good revolvers which have served us well. As good as a Smith? Duh, no. Good enough? Heck yes.

melikesguns
November 12, 2008, 10:25 AM
I got a Taurus 85 Titanium. The cylinder would not turn correctly. So off to Taurus she went. 6 weeks later she came back in working order at no charge. I have had no other problems after 500 rounds. For the price, they are great, but I just bought a 638 Smith yesterday, and really like it. If money is factor get the Taurus. If not, get a smith, but wait and get a non-lock version when you can find one.

shooter429
November 12, 2008, 08:06 PM
NOBODY will continue to buy from such a company.


If you are talking about me, I quit buying from the company, but not before I had many guns fail. As far as saying Ruger or Smith are bad, I would not say that, because it is not true. Why defend Taurus when they sell junk and so many others sell quality products for reasonable prices like Smith, Ruger, Browning, Sig, Glock, H&K, Beretta etc.

I only report what I know first-hand and if you read all my posts, you will see that I am fair and unbiased in reporting problematic guns and service as well as good products and service. I tell it like it is. That is what separates me from the fanboys. If I promote a gun, it is because it has performed well, and if I report that a gun is poor quality, rest assured it is. Perhaps because you own something, you feel you must defend it to justify your ownership. That attitude dioes not serve others on the boards though.

Shooter429

JR47
November 13, 2008, 01:42 PM
If you are talking about me, I quit buying from the company, but not before I had many guns fail. As far as saying Ruger or Smith are bad, I would not say that, because it is not true. Why defend Taurus when they sell junk and so many others sell quality products for reasonable prices like Smith, Ruger, Browning, Sig, Glock, H&K, Beretta etc.

I only report what I know first-hand and if you read all my posts, you will see that I am fair and unbiased in reporting problematic guns and service as well as good products and service. I tell it like it is. That is what separates me from the fanboys. If I promote a gun, it is because it has performed well, and if I report that a gun is poor quality, rest assured it is. Perhaps because you own something, you feel you must defend it to justify your ownership. That attitude dioes not serve others on the boards though.

Simply put, there is a certain dis-trust of the opinions of someone who buys so many bad guns over a period of years. If we want to be truthful, it's also statistically impossible to do what has been claimed to have happened.

The second paragraph defines those who defend a gun because of their experiences , right? How does a different experience make someone a fanboy is it's positive, but a rational, wise, poster is it's not?

Perhaps, sir, it's the fact that your experiences causes you to overstate your case. This, too, does not serve others on this Board. I have 12 Taurus handguns, bought over 20+ years, with thousands of rounds through them, without a problem. You state that in 100% of your multiple purchases the guns failed. Somewhere along the line, the truth sits.

Taurus guns are very poorly made with little if any customer support. Their lifetime service means it will take you a lifetime to get service, if you are lucky. I have had several and they were all lemons, from the .22s to .38 snubs and .357s, to .44s, 9s .40s and .45s. I have had them all and they were all junk. I tried to get some fixed, but gave up after several months of waiting and going back and forth and around and around with them.

This is the initial post. It's long on hyperbole, and short on facts, which still aren't in evidence.

Willy G.
November 13, 2008, 07:12 PM
S&W is having a promo. check this out, it puts a J frames right in the price range of a Taurus.
http://www.smith-wesson.com/wcsstore/SmWesson/upload/images/promos/SW_HH_Promo.jpg
I got my 442 for $389.00

bluemalibu
November 13, 2008, 10:03 PM
I bought an 85 Stainless 22 years ago for the wife... it has been a dream! ...But you'd think with all of the doom sayers, that amongst all of the lemons they sent me the only Lemon Meringue pie! Taurus is manufacturing on S&W's equipment that they purchased.

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