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Fisherman_48768
November 6, 2008, 02:37 PM
I find this hard to believe, but then I see who apparently compiled the comments we all sent in.

http://www.thenewstribune.com/adventure/story/530027.html

The majority (of the comments) support leaving the current rules in place,” said Sean Smith, Northwest regional director for the National Parks Conservation Association, which opposes the changes. “In other words, the public comments support the current firearm restrictions, not the NRA’s proposed changes.”
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Decision expected on rule about guns in parksJEFFREY P. MAYOR; jeff.mayor@thenewstribune.com Published: November 6th, 2008 12:30 AMThe Department of the Interior is expected to announce this month its decision regarding changes in rules governing guns in national parks and wildlife refuges.
When he visited Mount Rainier National Park for the Oct. 10 opening of the new Jackson Visitor Center, Interior Secretary Dirk Kempthorne said the announcement would be made soon.

“We’re going through the process. We anticipated we’d get a lot of responses, and we did,” Kempthorne told The News Tribune.

At the end of April, the department proposed a change that would allow people to carry a concealed firearm in a national park or wildlife refuge if the individual is permitted to carry a concealed weapon and is authorized to do so on similar state lands in the state in which the national park or refuge is located.

The department received 130,000 to 140,000 comments on the proposal, said Chris Paolino, deputy director of communications for the department.

“That’s on the higher end for comments but not extreme. By contrast, we received nearly 300,000 comments on proposal relating to a narrow change in Endangered Species Act regulations,” Paolino said.

“The majority (of the comments) support leaving the current rules in place,” said Sean Smith, Northwest regional director for the National Parks Conservation Association, which opposes the changes. “In other words, the public comments support the current firearm restrictions, not the NRA’s proposed changes.”

The debate began last December, when 47 U.S. senators wrote Kempthorne asking that him to review the existing laws and allow citizens to transport and carry firearms consistent with state law where the National Park Service’s sites are located.

Current regulations require weapons to be temporarily inoperable or stowed so they are not easily accessible.

The NRA, which pushed for the change, argues park visitors have the right to protect themselves against wild animals and people. It also argues the existing law is confusing because it differs from regulations allowing loaded weapons on other federal recreation lands.

Groups such as the Coalition of National Park Service Retirees, the Association of National Park Rangers, the Ranger Lodge of the Fraternal Order of Police and the NPCA oppose any change. They say allowing guns in parks and refuges will only put people and wildlife in danger.

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Zebraranger
November 6, 2008, 02:44 PM
I just find that hard to believe, the majority are against lifting the restrictions? What a bunch of crap.

Pilot
November 6, 2008, 02:44 PM
***? I dislike the National Park Service because they think they own the parks, not us. I am sure they will deny us our Constitutional right. :mad:

Fisherman_48768
November 6, 2008, 03:04 PM
I forgot to add: Anybody wonder why the decision was withheld until after the election???

Doc Savage
November 6, 2008, 05:51 PM
Actually this thing is EXTREMELY common with the NPS. Most times those passionate about access (in this case weapons) in the NPS get buried with opposing comments during the NEPA comment process. Happens all the time with OHV access. Problem is most folks who actually USE the outdoors are independant types and don't get involved, or are too busy trying to make a living and have a family life that they don't get around to it. Groups like the NPCA and Sierra Club seem to have tons of folks who have unlimited time on their hands and they can't wait to fill out the little post cards that say don't let anything in, and you get tons of those returned as comments.

Robert

average_shooter
November 6, 2008, 06:00 PM
Groups such as the Coalition of National Park Service Retirees, the Association of National Park Rangers, the Ranger Lodge of the Fraternal Order of Police and the NPCA oppose any change. They say allowing guns in parks and refuges will only put people and wildlife in danger.

What a load of crap.

So I guess they'd like to argue that everyone on Forest Service, Bureau of Land Management, or Fish and Wildlife Service lands are all in danger from CCW holders? Oh Noes!!!11!1!!

Park Service needs to get their crap together.

usmarine0352_2005
November 6, 2008, 08:06 PM
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Dang. That's not good.


I wanted to hear about a ruling soon, but obviously a pro-Constitution ruling.



Remember that person who got chomped by the bear earlier this year in the park?


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BHP FAN
November 6, 2008, 10:30 PM
Send lawyers guns and money...

22-rimfire
November 7, 2008, 10:04 AM
I just find that hard to believe, the majority are against lifting the restrictions? What a bunch of crap.

Welcome to the Obama's world. Yes, I know this predates the election. But, the point is they are seeing that the "majority" support no change in regulation.

If it does not change now, it will likely never change. It will only get more restrictive in the future.

Sean Dempsey
November 7, 2008, 10:19 AM
I tend to bring my weapon into national parks, and just not tell the Rangers.

Works well.

Eyesac
November 7, 2008, 11:21 AM
Hate to say it, but I'd rather be judged by 12 than eaten alive by a bear.

Fisherman_48768
November 7, 2008, 06:24 PM
Welcome to the Obama's world. Yes, I know this predates the election. But, the point is they are seeing that the "majority" support no change in regulation. I thought that BO was all about change, change this, change that change everything as it is now. Well so much for real change afteral.

sniper5
November 7, 2008, 07:07 PM
Oh, don't you worry. There's going to be changes in laws, regs, and rules. Lots of change.

22-rimfire
November 7, 2008, 08:32 PM
Change! I want Change! We're in for it now. Obama and Biden changes are not what I'm looking for.

Rmart30
November 7, 2008, 08:43 PM
Hate to say it, but I'd rather be judged by 12 than eaten alive by a bear.

I gotta agree on that..... I will take my chances.

willbrink
November 8, 2008, 09:52 AM
What are the actual legal penalties for carrying in the national parks? Is it different to each park, or a single federal charge of some sort? Felony? Simply thrown out of the park? Something inbetween?

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