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January 15, 2003, 07:09 AM
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=30499

HOMELAND INSECURITY
Mexicans posing as U.S. agents obstruct probe
Consular staff flashing INS badges retrieve illegals from detention

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Posted: January 15, 2003
1:00 a.m. Eastern


By Art Moore
© 2003 WorldNetDaily.com

Mexican consulate staff posing as U.S. immigration agents interfered with a murder and smuggling probe following a border patrol chase of illegal aliens that ended in a fatal freeway crash near San Diego.

The incident, which appears to be a breach of national sovereignty and security, began last Thursday when U.S. Border Patrol agents and California Highway Patrol officers chased a pickup truck loaded with Mexicans believed to have entered the U.S. illegally, according to San Diego radio talk show host Roger Hedgecock, whose staff has been investigating the story.

After crossing spike strips laid down by police, the fleeing truck hit a freeway abutment on Interstate 8, about 40 miles east of San Diego, and crashed, killing two women. The San Diego Union-Tribune, in a brief story on the crash, said the two women were Mexican nationals Juana Hernandez Gamino, 59, of Jalisco state and Victoria Sanchez Garza, 17, of Guanajuato state.

When the driver, Carlos Sanchez Moreno, was taken by ambulance to the hospital, he was accompanied by an employee of the Mexican consulate, Ivan Castillo Rodriguez, who presented a badge and identified himself as a U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service agent, according to Hedgecock. Castillo, posing as an INS agent, interviewed Sanchez during the ride and remained with him at Scripps Mercy Hospital in the Hillcrest community of San Diego.

Later on Jan. 9, five Mexican consulate employees, also presenting themselves as INS agents, showed up at Grossmont Hospital in nearby La Mesa, Calif., and demanded the release of two Mexicans being held and treated in connection with the crash. The two guides had led the illegal aliens across the border by foot into the U.S. where they met up with the truck.

The guides were turned over to the Mexican consulate employees, four men and a woman, then disappeared. One of the consulate employees was identified by Hedgecock as Carlos Navarro.

Coincidentally, Attorney General John Ashcroft was in the San Diego area yesterday to tour the nearby border facility and evaluate security.

Justice Department spokesman Jorge Martinez, who was traveling with Ashcroft, said in a phone interview with WorldNetDaily that the attorney general was aware of the fatal crash.

In response to questions by WND, Martinez said only, "We take every allegation seriously, and we will review every instance and issue arising from this and make an appropriate determination."

The driver Sanchez, now in the custody of the San Diego County sheriff, has been charged with first-degree murder in connection with the crash, according to Border Patrol officer Maj. Ben Bowman. Other charges include evasion and reckless driving. Sanchez's first court appearance is scheduled for today at 1:30 p.m. in El Cajon Superior Court.

Bowman did not return a call by WND yesterday.

'Violation of sovereignty'

Columnist Michelle Malkin, who specializes in immigration issues, told Hedgecock on his KOGO program yesterday afternoon that her sources are telling a similar story.

"What we are dealing with here is an absolute violation of our sovereignty, when you have Mexican consular officials apparently posing as INS agents and in possession, allegedly, of INS badges, and obstructing a criminal investigation," she said.

"We only suspected Mexico was running our immigration policy, but now we have it actually happening," added Malkin, author of the recently published book, "Invasion, How America Lets Terrorists, Torturers, and Other Foreign Criminals Right Through the Front Door."

Along with charges of murder and illegal-alien smuggling, the investigation involves a charge of marijuana possession, Hedgecock said.

Malkin said she believes Mexico's apparent obstruction in the case is worthy of a federal probe.

"We really need to hear from John Ashcroft and the Homeland Security Department, and President Bush, for that matter," said Malkin.

"It's bad enough that we've got the spread of these sham Mexican ID cards, the matricular consular cards," she said, "but this is 10 times worse – to have officials of a foreign government masquerading as our own federal agents."

Badge distribution

How did the Mexican consulate employees get the badges?

Malkin explained that over the past several years, Mexico has established "liaison units" that collaborate with U.S. officials when incidents involving Mexican nationals arise.

A liaison group from the Mexican consul general's office was given office space at the U.S. Border Patrol's building at the frontier, said Hedgecock. But after Sept. 11, because of increased security requirements, the Mexican staff needed some kind of special ID to be allowed into the border patrol parking lot.

"So the INS went ahead and gave them the standard ID that says 'INS,'" Hedgecock said.

Though the badges were meant for a limited use, the Mexican consular employees used them to pose as INS employees, he said.

"The CHP [California Highway Patrol] didn't know the difference; the hospital officials and security didn't know the difference," said Hedgecock. "They thought they were members of the INS."

According to a CHP officer, the consular employee, Castillo, presented himself as an INS investigator when he was allowed to ride to the hospital with Sanchez, the driver who has been charged with murder.

A border patrol agent named Brian who called Hedgecock's show yesterday said he knows Castillo, who is allowed "unfettered" access with the U.S. border agency.

The border agent said he has heard nothing from his superiors about this incident, noting that he and his colleagues are "reminded on a daily basis" to let in the consular officials to allow them to see how Mexican nationals are being treated.

"I don't think that anybody, when they set up these units, saw them as a means for Mexican consular officials to run interference for their criminal alien smugglers and murderers," said Malkin.

Malkin said that according to her sources, this is not the first time this kind of interference has occurred.

"What we are sitting on top of is a total violation of national society, but also a huge security risk here," she said.

The border patrol agent told Hedgecock on his show that, based on his experience, he thought the incident would quietly die down.

"They will roll it over, no one will say anything, and it will be business as usual," he said of U.S. Border Patrol officials.

Hedgecock, vowing to stay on the story, noted another incident of Mexican encroachment on the U.S. Border Patrol at Copper Canyon, east of San Diego, in October 2000.

WorldNetDaily reported that for the second time that year, Mexican army soldiers crossed into the U.S. and fired upon U.S. Border Patrol agents.

Seven months prior to that incident, Mexican soldiers crossed the border in two Mexican army Humvees and fired on a U.S. Border Patrol vehicle near Santa Teresa, N.M. Border Patrol union officials said the Mexicans chased the Americans over a mile onto U.S. soil. The Humvees held about 16 "heavily armed" soldiers.

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Waitone
January 15, 2003, 10:57 AM
I am continually amazed at how the entire US federal government (and state level also) is paralyzed into inaction.

Something major is going on behind the scenes. Something is happening which would cower our government. I don't know what it is or what it could be but it is big and bad.

We're talkin' bad mojo here is our government does not think borders are worth defending.

rock jock
January 15, 2003, 11:25 AM
Waitone,

Incompetance and cowardice don't rank as a conspiracy, they are simply character flaws.

Gordon
January 15, 2003, 11:39 AM
Even when it it is the norm?:fire:

Airwolf
January 15, 2003, 11:59 AM
I won't sugar coat this. As an American citizen I consider this type of behavior a provocation that is tantamount to an act of war.

The Mexican government will not take any action to stem the flow of their citizens leaving their country. On the contrary there's plenty of evidence to support the notion that the Mexican government is encouraging, aiding and abetting the exodus of it's citizens to the United States with the goals of shifting excess population, funneling money earned back to Mexico and to affect political change favorable to Mexico by influencing U.S. politics and lawmakers from within.

I belive the term for such actions is a "fifth column".

The situation with the ranchers defending their property along the border I believe will become the flashpoint for this conflict. The blatant actions of the Mexican government, smugglers, illegal immigrants and the complicity and tacit approval (by taking no action) of the U.S. Government will force the citizens of this nation to take matters into their own hands.

The sooner, the better.

edited for grammar

AZTOY
January 15, 2003, 12:06 PM
The situation with the ranchers defending their property along the border I believe will become the flashpoint for this conflict. The blatant actions of the Mexican government, smugglers, illegal immigrants and the complicity and tacit approval (by taking no action) of the U.S. Government will force the citizens of this nation to matters into their own hands.

I AGREE

foghornl
January 15, 2003, 12:11 PM
This whole scenario REALLY concerns me. Our borders are only slightly less porous than that of "Big Hole Swiss".

BTW, did the Fibbys ever find those guys that caused the big alert and search at Christmas time?

TheEgg
January 15, 2003, 12:19 PM
"BTW, did the Fibbys ever find those guys that caused the big alert and search at Christmas time?"

Last report was that the information from the informant was bogus -- he was trying to take heat off of himself on a criminal charge, and apparently made the whole thing up.

wingman
January 15, 2003, 01:44 PM
And it goes on and on, etc.:fire:


1/15/03
Border Shootings

(AP) Border Patrol agents in southern Arizona have been shot at twice this week. No one was hurt. Officials say the shots in both cases were fired from the Mexican side of the border.

Border Patrol spokesman Rob Daniels says one incident occurred after agents attempted to stop a pickup near Naco. The vehicle got stuck and the driver got away and crossed back into Mexico. Once in Mexico, the man turned around and shot at the agents. Agents found 12-hundred pounds of marijuana in the pickup.

In the other incident, Daniels says somone fired at Border Patrol agents as they approached the border fence near Douglas. Daniels says the agents found 170 pounds of marijuna in the area.

rock jock
January 15, 2003, 02:13 PM
I AGREE
So do I. It is not possible for this situation to continue indefinitely. Something will give eventually, and then all he** will break loose.

Bottom Gun
January 15, 2003, 02:14 PM
And it's going to get worse. . . . . .

schild
January 15, 2003, 02:52 PM
I've sent a donation to the American Border Patrol, www.americanpatrol.com

Sergeant Bob
January 15, 2003, 04:49 PM
WorldNetDaily reported that for the second time that year, Mexican army soldiers crossed into the U.S. and fired upon U.S. Border Patrol agents.
This is an act of war!
I think the Mexican army is complicit with the drug smugglers and smuggling of illegals (big surprise, I know). Sooner or later these goons are going to fire on the civilian border patrols and a full scale battle will break out.
Then the government and the media will villify these "out of control racist vigilantes" because the the government has niether the will or the cajones to address the problem. The shame is, this is what it will take to get their attention and their response will be less than positive.

CWL
January 15, 2003, 05:31 PM
Where were the real INS agents during all this?

How come Mexican Consulate people were on top of this faster than US officials?

In order to protect our borders and our soverienty, we need to eliminate the incompetent INS and start all over.

ahenry
January 15, 2003, 05:34 PM
In order to protect our borders and our soverienty, we need to eliminate the incompetent INS and start all over. Funny you should mention that. What do you think is happening right now? Just remember you asked for it...


Enforcement is not the real solution.

Azrael256
January 15, 2003, 06:00 PM
Something major is going on behind the scenes. Something is happening which would cower our government. I don't know what it is or what it could be but it is big and bad.

I'm not sure I'm ready to go quite that far, but something smells here. Why work so hard to snatch a few people out of US custody using such means? Could have just been an ad hoc thing concocted by some consul employees without thinking, but something just doesn't seem right about that.

Waitone
January 15, 2003, 06:10 PM
OK! I bite. What is it the federales are doing which will alleviate the situation? I have to react to what I see and what I read from as many sources as is reasonable.

To date, I have seen a virtual absence of coverage from Big Media. I have seen only slightly more information from only segments of the alternative media. I have conversations with people who live in the affected areas.

I see actions by the INS in particular that all seem to point in the same direction. Actions taken tend to ignore illegal border crossing.

I have yet to hear or see of any actions taken by federales which could be construed as an attempt to begin solving the problem.

Solutions to the problem may be complicated but they will come from predictable directions:

1>Bush stands up to Fox and demands Mexico begin correction actions in their society which will reduce the pressure to get out of the country.

2>Controlling the border. Did not say monitoring the border, Isaid controlling the border. If its going on, it ain't being communicated.

3>Begin identification // round up of ILLEGAL aliens in the US.

4>No evidence of uniform documentation requirments of entrants into the US.

5>No change at all in the management structure and personel in relevant immigration bureaucracies. The only change has been in moving some federales alphabet organization from one chain of command to another.

6>No recognition from the ruling class that there is problem with illegal immigration.

Ahenry, you've intimated in the past that something is afoot re:illegal immigration. I see no evidence of action or even awareness of a problem. I'll continue to rage against the machine until I see evidence of corrective action being taken.

I for one believe illegal immigration to be the pivotal issue of our war on Islamofascist terrorists. I think conspiracy thinking is lazy thinking. I do however think there is a huge disconnect in the US between the ruling class and the taxpaying class. Disconnects that large don't happen by accident. There are reasons.

madmike
January 15, 2003, 06:28 PM
WND is hardly a reliable news source.

I agree the Mexicans at the border are being an annoyance and must be stopped, and the American Border Patrol has my support.

Also, as an immigrant, I can tell you first hand the INS are so incompetent they defy belief. See my comment at http://www.jerrypournelle.com/mail/mail236.html

But before I believe this story, I'd like to see it from someone credible--even Sierra Times.

Hey, maybe it was Agents J and K from MiB releasing an "alien"? ;)

Airwolf
January 15, 2003, 06:30 PM
I for one believe illegal immigration to be the pivotal issue of our war on Islamofascist terrorists. I think conspiracy thinking is lazy thinking. I do however think there is a huge disconnect in the US between the ruling class and the taxpaying class. Disconnects that large don't happen by accident. There are reasons.

http://www.cis.org/articles/2002/elitepublicoped.html

There is no "think" about it. It's real.

madmike
January 15, 2003, 07:21 PM
Yeah. Why should I take a Civil Service Exam when, as a taxpayer, I ALREADY work for the government? ;)

"In an advanced bureaucracy, 'civil servant' equates to 'civil _master_.'" Robert A. Heinlein

ahenry
January 15, 2003, 11:41 PM
Ahenry, you've intimated in the past that something is afoot re:illegal immigration. I see no evidence of action or even awareness of a problem. I'll continue to rage against the machine until I see evidence of corrective action being taken. Then you’re not looking my good man. The wheels of gov’t grind exceeding slow, but they grind. How’s over 2,000 agents hired in F.Y. 2002? How’s the plan to hire at least that many more in F.Y. 2003, with a decent chance that the hiring will continue into F.Y. 2004? Yeah, 4000 - 5000 new agents in a couple of years is pretty much ignoring the whole thing, huh? How ‘bout splitting the enforcement side and the “admin” side of the INS into two separate organizations? That’s only been something BPAs have been saying would improve their job for about, oh I dunno, 10-20 years or more? There isn’t any explicit information that the investigation side of things (i.e. finding illegals and such well inside the borders) is increasing all that much, but reading between the lines suggest that it is. But, yeah you’re right Waitone nothing is being done. In fact the whole issue is being ignored. :rolleyes:


Also, as an immigrant, I can tell you first hand the INS are so incompetent they defy belief. This is very true. I hold out some hope that the DOHS will improve things, but we all know how the gov't does things, twice as complicated as anybody else. Time will tell.

Waitone
January 16, 2003, 07:43 AM
Ahenry, thanks for the update. None the initiatives you described have I read or heard. Splitting enforcement and admin is good and a start. Again, never heard it before your post.

So someething is going on! The fact that it is not a major play in general media says those who control the action do not see a need for publicizing their actions. . . . .for whatever the reason.

madmike
January 16, 2003, 09:30 AM
Yes, isn't it odd, seeing as we're told the press has a terrible "right wing bias." ;)

It's not one of those things I'd talk about, were I the gov't. Nor that a bunch of Border Patrol agents are preparing to quit, since Homeland Security won't let them have a union once it takes over, and plans to suspend them whenever it feels they've disobeyed one of the 10,000 conflicting orders they are going to get.

:banghead:

Hell of a world we live in, huh?

ahenry
January 16, 2003, 09:40 AM
Ahenry, thanks for the update. None the initiatives you described have I read or heard. Splitting enforcement and admin is good and a start. Again, never heard it before your post. No problem, glad I could help. Not to pick on you or anything, but nothing that I said is remotely special information or anything like that. Its all readily available if you bother to research the issue. In fact, the very first page of the INS web site has details of almost everything that I said. We’re not talking national secrets here. Anyway, like I said glad I could help.

Nor that a bunch of Border Patrol agents are preparing to quit, since Homeland Security won't let them have a union once it takes over, and plans to suspend them whenever it feels they've disobeyed one of the 10,000 conflicting orders they are going to get. NO BPAs are fixing to quite because of a loss of collective bargaining. Under the DHS most of the morale issues will probably be addressed as well, a significant number of them are either already fixed or look like they soon will be. Chances are the reasons agents left to go to FAM or other LE type jobs will probably not be an issue by then end of this year or the next.

madmike
January 16, 2003, 12:47 PM
None are preparing to quit? Then who did they interview for the news yesterday?

Of course, I can easily believe a union hack whining about nothing, too.

Well, let's get some popcorn and watch the show.

ahenry
January 16, 2003, 12:58 PM
They interviewed union heads that have to justify their job. Ask BP agents if they really care about loss of collective bargaining or not. Most won’t be. Ask them if they think there are some real positives coming out of the DHS. Most will (along with some trepidations). Ask them if they think there is a good chance some of the problems are being fixed. Most will.

wingman
January 16, 2003, 04:28 PM
And still another gun fight on the border.!!!


Gunfight on the Rio Grande

By Karen Gleason
The News-Herald

Published January 16, 2003

A gun battle erupted Tuesday night beside the Rio Grande between U.S. Border Patrol agents and a group of suspected marijuana smugglers.

No Border Patrol agents were injured, two persons were detained and a large cache of suspected marijuana was found.

The U.S. Border Patrol’s Del Rio Sector Wednesday released a statement about the exchange of gunfire.

“About (7:50 p.m.) Tuesday, agents were on a Still Watch operation in the Vega Verde area. The agents saw several persons crossing the Rio Grande into the United States carrying large packages. The agents identified themselves as Border Patrol agents, and they started receiving gunfire. The agents returned fire and took cover. No agents were injured,” said Dennis Smith, public affairs officer for the Del Rio Sector of the U.S. Border Patrol.

Though several sources Wednesday said they believed the gunfight’s instigators escaped unscathed as well, no official confirmation of that fact had been made as of press time this morning.

A spokesman for the U.S. Attorney’s Office said Wednesday no federal charges have been filed against the two persons being held in connection with the shooting. The spokesman added it was his understanding that the prosecution of the case would be turned over to the state.

Recovered at the scene of the gun battle were stacks of heavily wrapped packages, almost certainly marijuana. The total weight of the packages is estimated at close to 1,000 pounds. Whatever is inside the tightly wrapped and corded bundles, its former owners apparently considered it valuable enough to kill for.

One river resident said he heard the gun battle as soon as it started.

“It sounded like World War Three,” said Tommy Vick. “I was inside with all the doors and windows shut, and I could still hear it loud and clear. It lit the place up like a Christmas tree.”

Vick, who lives several lots away from the site of the shootings, is a longtime resident of the “Vega Verde,” literally, the “Green Plain.” It is what locals call that narrow strip of real estate that borders the Rio Grande. On the U.S. side of the river, a line of homes has been built along a winding, badly potholed ribbon of asphalt that parallels the river for several miles.

While the Vega’s isolation makes it an ideal locale in which to experience country living, that same isolation has also made the area a breeding ground for much trouble over the years.

Criminals and delinquents have found it easy, over the years, to cross the Rio Grande into the United States to steal from the residents of the Vega. In 2000, one of the residents, Patrick Bordelon, shot and wounded one Mexican youth and shot and killed a second. Residents of the Vega defended Bordelon’s violence, but the case was prosecuted successfully, and Bordelon went to prison.

Residents also claim they have, in the past, exchanged gunfire with people on the Mexico side of the river.

But Smith said Wednesday such exchanges of gunfire involving Border Patrol agents are rare.

Special Agent Rene Salinas, media coordinator for the San Antonio office of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, said Wednesday the FBI is investigating the case because it involves an assault on federal officers. Salinas declined further comment because the case is considered an ongoing investigation.

Early Wednesday morning, FBI agents began processing the scene of the gunfight. They took measurements, fingerprints, notes, photographs, digital video recordings. Dozens of small orange flags, like the kind sometimes used to mark buried utilities, dotted the backyard of the residence where the gunfight broke out and the backyard of the home next door. The orange flags pinpointed locations where spent shell casings were found.

Members of the Border Patrol’s special response team secured the grounds of the residence. Cradling black military rifles, they looked like they meant business and their welcome was as chill as the winter wind that ruffled the surface of the river, flowing gray as pewter in the background.

A large, drab two-story house squats on the lot. A four-foot-high chain link fence surrounds three sides of the unkempt yard, which dips toward the river behind the house. Between the backyard and the river stands a tall, natural fence of winter-brown carrizo, river cane.

Several cars are parked in the backyard. A black one, parked closest to the river, is riddled with bullet holes, including two through its windshield. Near the two cars lies a deflated gray raft, one of several used to ferry the marijuana across the river.

Across the river, a rolling series of limestone bluffs dotted with cactus and ceniza rises over a strip of riparian woods and more stands of carrizo. It’s a scene that could have come straight from a movie about the Wild West, and it doesn’t take much to imagine it as a smuggler’s staging ground.

A Border Patrol agent clad head-to-toe in olive drab green stands near the site of the shooting and scans the opposite riverbank through binoculars. His mouth is set in a thin, tight line.

On the opposite bank, nothing stirs.

For now.

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