Panic Buying Why?


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Mainsail
November 10, 2008, 12:15 PM
We all know what caused the panic buying, but I’m interested in WHY we’re panic buying.

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Maelstrom
November 10, 2008, 12:22 PM
I'll vote first. I haven't partaken in this but I can see why.

I'm fairly upset that I still don't have an M1A which I've wanted for almost 20 years now. In a few months or years I may not be able to get one.

I voted for the AWB concerns.

Tarvis
November 10, 2008, 12:24 PM
I'm gonna make some money on magazines ;). If AWB2.0 never comes through, I still have mags that I can sell for what I have invested.

foghornl
November 10, 2008, 12:28 PM
The F.U.D. factor...

F ear
U ncertainty
D oubt

And remembering history about how things went when we had a pretty much Demo-controlled Congress & White House.

LemmyCaution
November 10, 2008, 12:33 PM
I was hoping there would be an option to vote "Because some of us are completely unhinged and irrational."

But, then again, I was hoping there would be a better choice of candidates to vote for in the election, and we all know how that turned out.

-v-
November 10, 2008, 12:33 PM
Mainly fear of either/and/or AWB2.0 or high taxes on ammunition. Also as foghornl said, the FUD factor of the whole situation.

harmonic
November 10, 2008, 12:36 PM
Im interested in WHY were panic buying.

I didn't vote. But the reality is that Obama can issue an executive order and do about anything he wants. A stroke of the pen = the weight of law.

He can issue an executive order and outlaw concealed carry nationwide. He can issue an EO and eliminate gun shows.

That's a spooky law.

Will he do the above? I doubt it. Not in his first term. Because he wants what every first term prez wants, a second term.

But then again, who knows?

Ben86
November 10, 2008, 12:40 PM
I panic buy a little bit because of Obama's voting record. His record pretty much sums up his goals.

Also, if he is seen as weak by the world the chance of foriegn invasion is a lot higher than it is under Bush.

HoosierQ
November 10, 2008, 12:44 PM
Kinda thinking Civil War and Civil Unrest will be mighty un-likely. Not real sure about the others either.

If given the choice, I would have picked, "Buying because others are panic buying and I still want some ammo/a firearm". Just like Y2K. The panic was the issue.

With the 2nd Ammendment and Heller, gun control is going to be tough. I really believe that even though I am in the minority on this and other "conservative minded" forums.

ccsniper
November 10, 2008, 12:45 PM
well, im concerned about the civil unrest, alot of my friends are in the military and i would hate for them to have to try and take my guns away so i dont "hurt myself".

Feud
November 10, 2008, 12:47 PM
I disagree with the term "panic buying".

Everyone I know who have purchased guns in response to the election have done so as long term investments. They figure that if nothing happens they'll lose a few bucks but make most of it up on resale, but if something does get passed than their investment will skyrocket.

While certainly some people are panicked and buying out of fear, that mindset isn't universal.

ATAShooter
November 10, 2008, 12:47 PM
With the dems having the majority in the House and the Senate. I think ALOT of crap is going to get shoved thru. Alot of folks say, " No, they are too concentrated on the economy to fool with guns." Well, as I look at it, as the economy has a hard time, Criminal activity to get money will increase, via the use of guns ( most of which are illegal, stolen ect.) Then they will yell, BAD GUNS !! We got to ban them. It's all tied together.

X-Rap
November 10, 2008, 12:49 PM
I think if you have to ask the question maybe you just don't get it or have been up on the mother ship for a while. Rough sailing ahead.

krs
November 10, 2008, 01:08 PM
The one good thing that might come of all of this foolish spending is that it'll demonstrate with a temporary exclamation what has been true for over five years now - that the gun industry is a thriving part of the US economy and has been even while so many other industries have suffered.

Any portion of the US scene that's doing well will be among the last to be meddled with and I think that this guy has the sense to see it.

I also don't see him responding to a pack of shrieking harpies demanding gun reforms, no matter how loudly they may shriek.

USSR
November 10, 2008, 01:22 PM
We all know what caused the panic buying, but Im interested in WHY were panic buying.

Because most people are reactive instead of proactive, and can't see the forest for the trees. It's kind of like the people who watch the value of their 401k go down, and then finally get off their duff and sell when the market is at the bottom. Guys, you had 2 full years (2006 Congressional Elections) to see this coming, and personally, I don't feel sorry for anyone who waited this long.

Don

#shooter
November 10, 2008, 01:59 PM
I went into Gander Mountain Sunday at 4pm and the gun area was busy. Usually it is quiet with 1 or 2 workers at a time, there were 6. Everyone was looking at ARs and pistols. If it had black plastic, people were looking at it.
Why panicking?
1. Libs control Congress
2. Bush set the standard for abusing executive orders. The networks are abuzz with what EO BHO will create, expand, and resend.
3. BHO will also be making changes at BATF and the Justice Dpt.
4. Expect severe ammo bans and restrictions.

Personally I don’t have the cash to just plop down for an AR that I really don’t need and have nowhere close to shoot it. For now my SKS will have to do. I am more concerned with BHO doing away with CCW. 20 hard fought years could be down the tubes overnight.

expvideo
November 10, 2008, 02:17 PM
Hey Mainsail. Long time. Anyway, I already bought my AK last year and tac'd it out to be a sufficient SHTF/civil unrest/war rifle. Now I'm working on an AR-15 because they're not going to be around much longer if Obama gets his way, which he probably will. I bought a stripped receiver, and now I'm working on buying everything else. Buy receivers. For real. A receiver is transfered as a rifle, not as a part, so when the democrats read the stats and see that x number of rifles were sold this month over last month, it would be nice for them to see what kind of support "assault" rifles have backing them.

ETA: "all of the above", btw.

mp510
November 10, 2008, 02:25 PM
Even if there ends up being no additional regulations, or even if more stringent regulations end up being minimal (which are the two more likely outcomes)- chances are prices will continue to rise and along with demand, which will keep things in short supply. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe demand and prices will go down in six months- but I don't think that I am. It's available now, and the prices aren't too bad yet (especially since in many instances were only dealing with 1 level of price hikes, if the item is already on the shelf at your dealer- you don't need to pay price increases and profit several times).

KeithET
November 10, 2008, 02:27 PM
I voted for the second one but the first one is just as likely if not more. As for 3 and 4 they are just freaky panic thinking!

KeithET

The Bushmaster
November 10, 2008, 02:27 PM
Just maintaining inventory levels at my loading bench...

tmajors
November 10, 2008, 02:33 PM
All of the above, and pretty much in order of possibility the same you have on the poll. AWBII being most likely and civil war being least, but all possible.

tmajors
November 10, 2008, 02:36 PM
He can issue an executive order and outlaw concealed carry nationwide.

I CC 95% and open 2%. Other 3% I don't carry because I can't.

The day concealed carry is outlawed is the day I start open carrying 100%, and don't do business with stores or go places that that don't let me. I might even start OCing a rifle on occasion, like those boys up in Post Falls.

harmonic
November 10, 2008, 02:38 PM
AWBII being most likely

I think that's probably a given. I'm sure the paperwork is already prepared for him. After all, all he needs to do to implement such is a stroke of the pen.

But some are talking about total abolition/confiscation of privately owned firearms. On a scale of 1 to 1000 for worries, I'd put that one at about .75.

expvideo
November 10, 2008, 02:44 PM
Personally I don’t have the cash to just plop down for an AR that I really don’t need and have nowhere close to shoot it. For now my SKS will have to do. I am more concerned with BHO doing away with CCW. 20 hard fought years could be down the tubes overnight.

First of all, a stripped receiver for an AR-15 is about $150, so you can at least get the part that is going to be banned first. Every other part is just a "gun part". You might consider investing in that part, just in case you ever decide you want one. I'm on a really low budget too, so I'm just trying to give you some perspective.

Also, I will always carry a gun. FI can happily say that I am a law abiding citizen. Nothing is going to change. Except maybe the second part.

Civil War? You gotta be kidding?!?!

Is there a run on tinfoil too?

Yeah, it's not really likely or anything, but it's good to be prepared for something like that. A lot can change really quickly, so what is normal today may not be normal next week. Still I think that civil war is about the least likely thing that could happen. I think that in this day and age, civil unrest is much more likely. I don't think Americans are really going to go for all out war with ourselves. I think that's about as likely as having to fend off escaped zoo tigers.

jfdavis58
November 10, 2008, 02:59 PM
I survived Clinton. Things will change, slower than the liberals might like, faster than conservatives think is necessary. I'm concerned about the vague emptiness of the Obama agenda. 'Yes we can' is not a plan. And if it somehow was a plan, what about contingencies? What happens if you cannot have everything your way because of congressional wrangling? All I see is a recipe for a left leaning slant on business as normal. And congressional business-as-normal is a near total failure.

So we get some 51% to 53% of our population--containing by far the most radical and violent members--disgruntled and dissatisfied when things don't work-out or go-their-way; still 'pumped' from the 'historic election of a new messiah'. Can civil unrest and violence be far behind? Maybe just a little midnight visit to the business area or that all-conservative residential area with sticks and stones and other incendiary or explosive intents. Fueled by 'yes we can' a little immediate 'wealth redistribution' might be the natural reaction to a failed health care initiative or ...

LightningJoe
November 10, 2008, 03:34 PM
Clinton completely overreached in 1993. Obama may do the same in 2009. I think these people have a tendency to regard their agenda as Olympian and to believe that any victory is the final conquest they've been waiting for. So, they naturally want to repaint and recarpet the whole country immediately. Then, they're surprised when the hillbillies act like the war's not over.


Would Obama try to force change with an executive order type of fait accompli? Maybe he would. I suspect he's a bit of a nut, nutty enough to fit in with Bill Ayers and the other radical commies. If Ayers would plant a bomb at the Pentagon, would his political protege plant one in the Constitution?


Maybe he would. Interesting times.

twoclones
November 10, 2008, 05:12 PM
I was just at the local Sportsmans Warehouse and their handgun wall is looking pretty bare... Two salesmen told me that they have 'no ARs left at all."

RockyMtnTactical
November 10, 2008, 05:14 PM
People are scared. And rightly so. Obama is no friend of gun owners. He is an evil man with evil desires. The move to socialism is frightening, as socialism is just a step away from communism, a scary beast.

We live in the greatest land in the WORLD. Let's keep it that way.

ants
November 10, 2008, 05:23 PM
I'm not scared. I'm not in a panic. I'm ready to fight any battle necessary.

If you had lived in 1776 and you acted this way, with panic and fear, you should be ashamed of yourselves.
Our forefathers didn't panic and fear, they fought. And won.

catfish101
November 10, 2008, 05:33 PM
I was at my local store today and allot of people are buying. Most are buying ammo because of the tax that will be imposed. I picked up a couple rifles today because I worked a deal not a panic thing.

I have talked to a few guys that are selling rifles. They are keeping curtain guns in curtain calibers. They don't want to keep up with so many different rounds. Especially the expensive high powered rifles that shoot higher priced rounds.

I will say that I did put an evil black rifle on lay-away today. I don't have one and there is a good chance that they will be hard to get very soon. Wasn't a panic thing just a thought. I never really had any interest in one because I shot them so much for several years I guess. Anyway, I put a new SandW back.

JaxNovice
November 10, 2008, 05:36 PM
I am a little confused by the panic buying. It was pretty clear as early as mid-September that Obama was going to win.

JaxNovice
November 10, 2008, 05:37 PM
He is an evil man with evil desires

Totally off base and just what some reporter is looking for as she/he trolls gun forums.

candr44
November 10, 2008, 05:59 PM
Thanks to the panic buyers they have been able to do what the anti gun people have been trying to do for years---make the prices go up so much that it becomes difficult or impossible to afford.

TexasRifleman
November 10, 2008, 06:00 PM
I was hoping there would be an option to vote "Because some of us are completely unhinged and irrational."

I guess a lot of you guys weren't around for the Clinton ban or you wouldn't be saying things like this.

Some of us have been here before. That time we got away with an expiration date. I don't think anyone wants to take that gamble again.

PTK
November 10, 2008, 06:03 PM
Dunno why you're all buying, but keep it up, I'll have more for sale soon enough... :D

Ala Dan
November 10, 2008, 06:04 PM
"Combination of some, or ALL of the above"~! :eek: :barf:

LightningJoe
November 10, 2008, 06:55 PM
Our forefathers didn't panic and fear, they fought. And won.


They were fighting an enemy that had to move men and materiel three thousand miles across an ocean using wooden sailing ships. That enemy was also occupied dealing with very strong third parties to protect interests much more valuable than the American colonies.


Good luck fighting the US military and everything else the Federal government has at its disposal. If the British had been in the position our government is in, they could have imposed a lot more taxes without any revolt.


If Obama issues an executive order banning guns (1000000:1 against), there won't be any serious opposition except at the ballot box in 2010.

.38 Special
November 10, 2008, 09:28 PM
I didn't vote. But the reality is that Obama can issue an executive order and do about anything he wants. A stroke of the pen = the weight of law.

He can issue an executive order and outlaw concealed carry nationwide. He can issue an EO and eliminate gun shows.

You seem to have mistaken the power of executive orders for that of a king or monarch. Executive orders are issued to clarify existing law. Making new law via executive order is unconstitutional, per the Supreme Court. (Youngstown Sheet & Tube Co. v. Sawyer, 1952)

fletcher
November 10, 2008, 09:45 PM
^ Also know that pretty much anything goes until it's challenged.

.38 Special
November 10, 2008, 09:51 PM
If Presidents could make sweeping gun bans via executive order, why didn't Clinton do it?

But hey, don't let me stop anyone from stocking up on tin foil and hi-cap mags. The economy needs all the help it can get -- and if you really want something to worry about re. Obama, the economy should be the odds-on favorite.

harmonic
November 10, 2008, 10:13 PM
Executive orders are issued to clarify existing law.

Well, I'm sure you know more about it than I, but this article seems to contradict your supposition.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081109/ap_on_go_pr_wh/obama

From the article:

There's a lot that the president can do using his executive authority without waiting for congressional action, and I think we'll see the president do that," Podesta said. "I think that he feels like he has a real mandate for change. We need to get off the course that the Bush administration has set."

.38 Special
November 10, 2008, 11:18 PM
See the post above yours. :)

browningguy
November 10, 2008, 11:37 PM
AWB and new taxes on ammo. Lucky me, I already have plenty of ammo, maybe even enough to go four years with a little care. Plus reloading supplies, and beucoup magazines for everything.

harmonic
November 10, 2008, 11:54 PM
Ok, I got it. Is this it? Thanx for the clarification. That's a load off.

However, the Supreme Court ruled in Youngstown Sheet & Tube Co. v. Sawyer, 343 US 579 (1952) that Executive Order 10340 from President Harry S. Truman placing all steel mills in the country under federal control was invalid because it attempted to make law, rather than clarify or act to further a law put forth by the Congress or the Constitution. Presidents since this decision have generally been careful to cite which specific laws they are acting under when issuing new executive orders.

5knives
November 11, 2008, 12:03 AM
I voted the combination!

Why?

Because I paid attention to what happened in Australia, Canada and Great Britain.

They all thought they'd have time to argue, appeal, resist, vote, delay, etc.

They were wrong!

Regards,
:)

Ben86
November 11, 2008, 12:07 AM
I wonder what Obama thinks of this sudden rise of gun purchase in light of his election. Does it send a clear message to him that people know his intention when it comes to the Second Amendment?

Just as a side note, I wonder if Obama would bail out the firearm industry like he wants to do with the auto industry? Oh wait, that's right, it doesn't need bailing out anyway, because Americans still love their right to keep and bear arms.

TexasRifleman
November 11, 2008, 12:13 AM
Making new law via executive order is unconstitutional, per the Supreme Court. (Youngstown Sheet & Tube Co. v. Sawyer, 1952)

Perhaps you should take your Constitutional scholarship and explain it to the next President. He certainly seems to have a different interpretation.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1195959/barack_obamas_executive_orders.html

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/ethics/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/30/obama-would-order-review_n_115782.html


Yes, just harmless little things to give guidance to agencies right?

Just like Bush I's use of EOs to stop the import of some types of firearms. That could never happen.......

SoCalShooter
November 11, 2008, 12:15 AM
I have my body covered in tin foil but I am going for all of the above.

meef
November 11, 2008, 12:16 AM
Why? You ask, Why?

Simple.

Baaa. Baaa.

:cool:

Mach2
November 11, 2008, 12:16 AM
I wonder what Obama thinks of this sudden rise of gun purchase in light of his election. Does it send a clear message to him that people know his intention when it comes to the Second Amendment?[end quote]

Mach2 replies:

I have had quite a few gun owners tell me B.O. is not anti 2A. I think they knowingly lied just to get him in the white house.
I went in a gun store today that was nearly empty. The people who know what B.O. is about are afraid America is done for. It isn't just the 2nd amendment they are worried about.

.38 Special
November 11, 2008, 01:24 AM
Perhaps you should take your Constitutional scholarship and explain it to the next President. He certainly seems to have a different interpretation.

Stem cell research, abortion funding, drilling for oil... These are typical of things that have been subject to "executive order musical chairs" since the Reagan era at least.

Again, it's not as though we here at THR just discovered the power of executive orders. The idea that a president can just start issuing decrees about anything under the sun shows a startling lack of understanding about how the system works.

CRITGIT
November 11, 2008, 01:34 AM
Again, it's not as though we here at THR just discovered the power of executive orders. The idea that a president can just start issuing decrees about anything under the sun shows a startling lack of understanding about how the system works.
AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Besides Obama is smarter and more politically astute than any President in a long while. This country's got monumental problems now and it'll take a centrist approach to solve them.

CRITGIT

Mach2
November 11, 2008, 01:50 AM
If ALL of B.O.s judge appointees(federal and supreme court) are anti 2A then they not he will go after guns. But what's the difference?

Does anybody in here think B.O. will appoint even ONE pro 2A judge?

rjewell
November 11, 2008, 02:34 AM
Well, and the fact that the Brady campaign endorsed BHO, Im sure he has somthing up his sleve..

-Ry

lonegunman
November 11, 2008, 04:00 AM
The stores I regularly visit in our area have been slammed. One sold 30 on Saturday alone, the other was doing 20K dollar a day all week and is nearly out of everything related to black rifles.


Gunowners remember 1994. The new president is a socialist, basically dishonest and he is leading the most anti-gun senate and congress in history. Nothing good can come of this.

ccsniper
November 11, 2008, 11:48 AM
my main gunshop i go to ran out of anything to do with high cap in 2 hours, another is hiding their stuff in the back so they can raise prices on em.

Just Jim
November 11, 2008, 11:59 AM
EERRR AAAAHHHH maybe it is because people know the socialist are liars:banghead::cuss::D:D

jj

tmajors
November 11, 2008, 01:40 PM
I think that's about as likely as having to fend off escaped zoo tigers

And in today's news:

Tiger escapes, kills caretaker at Mexico zoo (http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2008Nov11/0,4670,LTMexicoTigerKilling,00.html)

RockyMtnTactical
November 11, 2008, 03:12 PM
Totally off base and just what some reporter is looking for as she/he trolls gun forums.

Anyone who believes that Obama has sincere desires to "help" the country is a fool. He is simply an evil man. Most politicians are though. Power mongers.

Tacbandit
November 11, 2008, 03:18 PM
Stumbled upon this a few minutes ago...Haven't read the whole thread, so if
I'm duplicating, forgive me...Interesting....WAKE UP, PEOPLE.....
www.nraila.org/Legislation/Read.aspx?ID=4227
:cool:

hso
November 11, 2008, 03:56 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/11/11/obama.gun.sales/index.html#cnnSTCVideo

dust_101
November 11, 2008, 05:08 PM
It will be interesting to see how many folks who are buying to resell fare once the new AWB goes into place, remember the recent attempts did not have any grandfather clause. "Pre-Ban" Magazines won't exist, all of them will be illegal. They learned last time (but they forget the political fallout).

cornman
November 11, 2008, 05:27 PM
I find it hard to believe that you guys are worried now after the last 8 years of the constitution burning.
If you think Obama is an evil man there is something wrong with you. His love for his familiy and country is no less than any of us. I also have yet to hear of a story of him behaving like a jerk.
this is not the case for the angry hateful current crop in th WH.
BTW Mccain got an F from the GOA.

rundm
November 11, 2008, 05:30 PM
I don't worry about the executive orders telling us that we can not have guns. If I am not mistaken, it was written into the Texas state constitution for the right to have guns. No matter what hussain says, he can not userp state constitutional law no matter how powerful he thinks he is.

TexasRifleman
November 11, 2008, 05:31 PM
remember the recent attempts did not have any grandfather clause.

The most recent attempt actually put in writing was HR1022 and it DID have a grandfather clause for OWNERSHIP, but not for transfer.

goldie
November 11, 2008, 05:37 PM
You just better hope that someone does not shoot up a school or an office building in the next 6 months or all hell will break loose........

FLR72
November 11, 2008, 05:52 PM
Obama would be very foolish to mess with the one thing that is absolutely booming in this economy. GUNS!!

But it wouldnt surprise me if he did.

mgregg85
November 11, 2008, 06:05 PM
AWB-II in my opinion. If it does happen it sounds like it will be 4 to 6 months at least before they even consider it, but prices will rise.

RockyMtnTactical
November 11, 2008, 07:29 PM
If you think Obama is an evil man there is something wrong with you. His love for his familiy and country is no less than any of us. I also have yet to hear of a story of him behaving like a jerk.

Oh, right. Well, then I retract my previous statements. :rolleyes:

rbernie
November 11, 2008, 07:39 PM
If you think Obama is an evil man there is something wrong with you. His love for his familiy and country is no less than any of us. I also have yet to hear of a story of him behaving like a jerk.I do not disagree with this statement, in many ways. I have no doubt that he thinks that he is doing the right things. I happen to disagree.

You and I are told we must choose between a left or right, but I suggest there is no such thing as a left or right. There is only an up or down. Up to man's age-old dream -- the maximum of individual freedom consistent with order -- or down to the ant heap of totalitarianism. Regardless of their sincerity, their humanitarian motives, those who would sacrifice freedom for security have embarked on this downward path. Plutarch warned, "The real destroyer of the liberties of the people is he who spreads among them bounties, donations and benefits."

Ronald Reagan -October 27, 1964

Tacbandit
November 13, 2008, 02:13 AM
Quote:
"Obama would be very foolish to mess with the one thing that is absolutely booming in this economy. GUNS!!"



Are you for real...??? No offense, but...do you watch the news? Do you keep up with..Never mind..Have you just gotten back from a long vacation?:banghead: He's got an agenda, and guns are a part of it....

Tacbandit
November 13, 2008, 02:19 AM
Quote:
"You just better hope that someone does not shoot up a school or an office building in the next 6 months............"



I'm always hoping that...:uhoh:

bearmgc
November 13, 2008, 02:27 AM
Oh Geez...

A.M. Baer
November 13, 2008, 03:13 AM
Quite simply all I can say is that most people, including myself, are worried about something bad happening which will prevent our abaility to attain firearms and ammunition or a situation which will force us to use them.

Mr White
November 13, 2008, 10:32 AM
Despite what the MSM and The Savior Himself want us to believe, I fear that there will be another AWB and that firearms, ammo and components will be heavily taxed along with everything else. I may buy one new gun but my main focus is on boolits, powder and primers.

Walkalong
November 13, 2008, 11:02 AM
First two, and I agree with USSR's post.

ArfinGreebly
November 13, 2008, 12:09 PM
Well, it's pretty simple:

Gun grabber (by his voting record and past rhetoric) gets elected.

Folks who have taken the "wait and see" approach now realize that they have "seen" that for which they were "waiting."

Having not taken sensible precautions while there was still plenty of time, good prices, and all the availability you want, they now "realize" things may change.

They decide to hurry up and get "something" before "everything" is bought.

Brilliant plan. They, and half a million of their closest friends, all head to the store on the same day. What a freaking shock that is.

From that point forward is a "regenerative feedback loop" of buying.

A spike in buying (brought on by a simple failure to plan) causes increased demand and a reduction in supply which causes an increase in price which increases anxiety and sends a wave of perception that "we're running out" which leads to more buying, increased demand, decreased supply, and so on.

You know, there are people who, a year ago, saw this as a possibility, and took measures while prices were good, order lead times were normal, and bargains were there for the taking. There were people who shopped the ammo sales and hunted down the good magazines and got that extra rifle they figured would be good to have.

Then there are the opportunists who, when it looked bad, showed up at the local stores and bought -- I kid you not -- every remaining AK on the shelf, hoping to turn a profit from the ensuing panic.

Regenerative feedback.

As supplies dried up, people placed back orders, figuring that, even with a delay they still get theirs in time. Which added to the perception that "everything's gone" and increased anxiety.

Where I live, the racks have been pretty picked over, but there's still stuff there. There are still 1,000-round cases at reasonable prices, and one dealer had been steadily buying Colt magazines (20 & 30 rounders) for the last year, so HE has plenty for sale. And he hasn't raised his prices. His take: "I've got to take care of my customers, these guys depend on me."

Most of the stores here are pretty laconic about it. "Yup, we've had a lot of worried customers. Yup, supplies are down. Yup, gotta wait for new stock. Yup, same price as last month. Except for ammo -- distributors are raising prices on that. But hey, I've got five cases here at the old price, you want some of that?"

I continue to be amazed at people who should be able to figure out how it will be and who nonetheless waited for the cliff.

Talked to a fella couple days ago. "Look at these fools. I got what I needed months and months ago. Now these morons are driving up prices for all of us."

Well, I guess I can't tell you to relax.

But, damn, guys.

Look a little farther into the future. Really.

Okay?

Tacbandit
November 13, 2008, 03:26 PM
well spoken

Merkelman
November 13, 2008, 08:49 PM
My look into the future! When the paranoid idiots are finished spending money they don't have, on guns and ammo, I will be buying them for pennies on the dollar. Your panic is my opportunity!

esmith
November 14, 2008, 12:53 AM
AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Besides Obama is smarter and more politically astute than any President in a long while. This country's got monumental problems now and it'll take a centrist approach to solve them.

CRITGIT

I cannot begin to start with everything that is wrong with that statement. So i'll save you the embarassment and won't.


I find it hard to believe that you guys are worried now after the last 8 years of the constitution burning.
If you think Obama is an evil man there is something wrong with you. His love for his familiy and country is no less than any of us. I also have yet to hear of a story of him behaving like a jerk.
this is not the case for the angry hateful current crop in th WH.
BTW Mccain got an F from the GOA.

Yeah, because saying the constitution has deep seeded flaws is really letting us know he loves this country. And saying that he wants to spread the wealth around is also very accurate to what this country runs on. You know, capitalism and socialism. Yep, i bet he loves this country. He loves it enough that he wants to re-write the very functions the country was found upon.

You say you HAVE YET TO HEAR A STORY OF HIM BEHAVING LIKE A JERK. I wonder why? You know the media is so fair in this country. What newstalk stations do you watch or listen to?

sojournerhome
November 14, 2008, 12:55 AM
Because my wife is concerned about all of the above so I can buy a few more. :D

FLR72
November 14, 2008, 07:31 PM
Tacbandit did you read my whole statement? Ok I should have included the word now in the first sentence somewhere. I think we still have a few months even after he who shall not be named takes office. I know gun banning is on his list just not first!

wbond
November 16, 2008, 05:48 AM
I fear an AWB and huge tax on guns and ammo. Mostly the AWB and 500% tax that Obama intends.

Unrest is highly unlikely. The far-left liberals and their assorted scumbag associates are the people who riot and throw tantrums when they don't get their way. In this case, they have no reason to riot because they won the election. They're to busy being smug and happy to riot.

The conservatives (who lost election) don't riot. They're to law abiding a people for that.

So there will be no riots.

Civil War is ridiculous. The BO jerk can (and probably will) be voted out next election. No one is going to start a civil war over Barak Obama. That is ridiculous.

The reason people are buying ammo like crazy is the same reason I did. They fear a ban and/or high tax. Same with guns, especially clip-fed semi-automatics. It's not because anyone is preparing for riots or war. Well, certainly not war, and doubtful on riots.

It's because we're preparing to last through a 4 year ban and still be able to target practice with ammo left over for hunting and the typical CCW purpose. A guy has to buy a lot of ammo to do all that. If I shoot 100 rounds a month for practice (minimal to stay in some type practice) that requires 2,400 rounds to do for 4 years, plus a few hundred more for hunting and defense because it has to last 4 years.

Now that I'm stocked up, I will NOT be buying any more ammo or guns for 4 years.

FYI - who issued this poll? A member of the newsmedia? I suspect so. I see no other reason to ask these questions and take a poll.

guntotinguy
November 16, 2008, 07:38 AM
The reason people are buying ammo like crazy is the same reason I did. They fear a ban and/or high tax. Same with guns, especially clip-fed semi-automatics. It's not because anyone is preparing for riots or war. Well, certainly not war, and doubtful on riots.


+ 1 That says it all for me too!

PS..I dont trust most polls much.

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