Gun murders by firearm type.


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jackdanson
November 11, 2008, 02:09 PM
Does anyone have the list of the top 10 firearms used in murders, I think it had .38's at the top of the list. I've been googling all morning and can only find one old report from 1995.

I'm compiling some info for an anti friend from work who is enthusiatically for an assault weapons ban, but is all for hangun rights. I want to show that assault rifles are used in an extreme minority of crimes.

Thanks!

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SuperNaut
November 11, 2008, 02:12 PM
The latest '06 numbers are on the FBI site (http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2006/index.html). Unfortunately they are buried in an unlinkable .pdf, so you have to do some searching.

zminer
November 11, 2008, 02:18 PM
I found the same 1995 stats that you did, as well as a site claiming that Time magazine got hold of an unpublished ATF report in 2000 with the information you're looking for. There may be more recent information, but I didn't come across it in a quick search:

http://www.tonyrogers.com/news/top_10_crime_guns.htm

I can't verify its accuracy, but they list, in order:

1. Smith and Wesson .38 revolver
2. Ruger 9 mm semiautomatic
3. Lorcin Engineering .380 semiautomatic
4. Raven Arms .25 semiautomatic
5. Mossberg 12 gauge shotgun
6. Smith and Wesson 9mm semiautomatic
7. Smith and Wesson .357 revolver
8. Bryco Arms 9mm semiautomatic
9. Bryco Arms .380 semiautomatic
10. Davis Industries .380 semiautomatic

I've never even heard of "Bryco Arms" before. Who are they? :confused:

MikePGS
November 11, 2008, 02:25 PM
http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2006/offenses/expanded_information/homicide.html
Go there and then click on the right where it says weapon type.
Its important to note that justifiable homicides by private citizens with a handgun are far more common than with a long gun.
Huh nevermind I can't seem to find the specific firearms list either.

zminer
November 11, 2008, 02:25 PM
According to this page (http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/abstract/guic.htm) from US DOJ:

"Since there is no national collection of data about the guns used by criminals, this report provides information from several sources, including the FBI National Crime Information Center's stolen gun file, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms National Tracing Center, the BJS National Crime Victimization Survey, the FBI Uniform Crime Reports, the BJS Survey of Inmates in State Correctional Facilities, other inmate surveys, and special studies of homicides involving guns. The report covers how often guns are used in crime, what categories of firearms are most often used, and what type of guns is preferred by criminals. This is the first of a series of reports on firearms and crime that will be part of a comprehensive report entitled Firearms, Crime, and Criminal Justice. Includes bibliography."

I'd suggest dropping an e-mail to the Bureau of Justice Statistics. It sounds like they intended to release regular reports, but just haven't been doing so. Again, a quick survey of their site doesn't turn up anything especially recent.

EDIT: This text is from a page linking to the 1995 report. It appears that the FBI's UCR gives general types of firearms uses, but it would be interesting to see if nobody anywhere publicly distributes a list of the firearms most often-used in crime.

Kind of Blued
November 11, 2008, 02:29 PM
This isn't what you're looking for, but you might find it interesting. I just finished reading it.

It is a study from St. Louis on types of guns confiscated from gang members. It's kind of annoying in that they throw around "Saturday Night Specials" and "assault weapons" a lot, but you get the point.

hso
November 11, 2008, 02:36 PM
I've never seen an authoritative breakdown beyond just general classes - shotgun, rifle (semi/nonsemi), handgun (semi/nonsemi).

Schofield3
November 11, 2008, 02:43 PM
http://www.battletanks.com/images/Abrams_M1A2-2.jpg

had to post....don't ask....

jackdanson
November 11, 2008, 03:01 PM
thanks guys, a lot of this has been useful.

Sinixstar
November 11, 2008, 05:39 PM
I tried looking into this some time ago myself.
I came across something similar to what was posted earlier - that there is no real definitive study or set of statistics kept on the subject. There are some lists floating around, but they're by no means complete or definitive.
There's no requirement, and in some cases no easy mechanism for reporting statistics locally from what i've gathered - so getting concrete numbers is tricky.

FLR72
November 11, 2008, 06:15 PM
By not revealing the facts it leaves us open to speculation, rumor and here-say. It would seem to me that such a list is an absolute necessity for a fact based discussion about such an important issue.

I will spend some time looking and post anything new I might find.

Lewis130
November 11, 2008, 06:26 PM
The violence policy centre (http://vpcblog.wordpress.com/) has some good statistics:
http://vpcblog.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/vpc_blog_browning_graph_02.png

SuperNaut
November 11, 2008, 06:37 PM
LOL!

Kind of Blued
November 11, 2008, 07:13 PM
That pie chart reminds me of Craig Ferguson's maps on his Late Show. They always include the place he is talking about surrounded by countries such as "Borat", "Narnia", etc. :D

icebones
November 11, 2008, 11:35 PM
how is heston? ive never heard of that.

coming from the VPC i wouldnt rely too heavily on that pie chart.

those idots probably couldnt tell the diffrence from a glock or a browning anyway...

Sinixstar
November 11, 2008, 11:54 PM
By mfg is kind of a useless statistic anyways.

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