Rifles that can shoot 22 short and LR's??


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mikle76
November 12, 2008, 10:37 AM
What all rifles are currently made that can handle both the 22 short and 22 long rifle? I am interested in semi-auto, pump and magazine fed bolt actions. I need the 22LR for foxes and the shorts for nightime armadillo raids when I need it quiet as possible but with enough thump to get the job done at short ranges!

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johnmcl
November 12, 2008, 10:44 AM
Hey Mike,

How about a lever action? The Marlin 39A shoots Shorts, Longs, and Long Rifles. The 39A will just rock on those 'dillos.

Japle
November 12, 2008, 10:47 AM
All .22 LR guns will chamber and fire .22 shorts. Of course, the shorts may not feed in auto, pump or bolt guns. They'll all work as single shots.

Aguila makes a .22 "Colibri" cartridge that uses a .22 Long case and a 20 grain bullet with no powder. It uses primer compound for propulsion. Very quiet and powerful enough for small pests.

cobra2411
November 12, 2008, 10:53 AM
My Rossi 62 does short/long/long rifle...

I'm not positive, but a tube fed magazine may be the only thing that will deal with S/L/LR...

MaterDei
November 12, 2008, 11:02 AM
My 10/22 feeds and fires shorts just fine, it just won't cycle them.

I hope your shooting those dillos in the head. I wouldn't trust a 22 short to give a clean kill otherwise, dillos are too big and hard IMO.

meef
November 12, 2008, 11:05 AM
Remington 572.

Get a good used one - it won't break the bank. Mine's just happy-making accurate and works with anything.

You'd never regret it.

:D

woof
November 12, 2008, 11:21 AM
Hurry and you might get this one (I have no connection)

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=115327615

22-rimfire
November 12, 2008, 11:36 AM
I suspect some of the older Remington bolt action rifles will work just fine with shorts. I have never loaded or tried to load my Rem 541-S or -T magazines with shorts or longs, but the manual says they work.

I would assume that any of the tubular magzine bolts made by Remington will feed shorts and longs.

You always have the Marlin 39A and the Remington 572 pump. The Remington 550 is the only semi-auto 22 rifle that I'm aware of that will feed and eject shorts. Both are good rifles.

mikle76
November 12, 2008, 12:05 PM
Thanks guys! Proper cycling is very important to me. I don't want a single shot to fumble around with in the darkness when I see two 'dillers within feet of each other and I already have a light in one hand! I would be best off with a semi-auto in that regard but if I had a bolt or pump gun that worked properly with shorts I could possibly make it work and save a little cash. I'm not a big fan of centerfire leverguns but in a tube fed rimfire it might stand a fighting chance with me;)

Harve Curry
November 12, 2008, 12:17 PM
My Rossi M-62 pump (copy of Winchester) feeds S, L, LR. Shoots some tight groups with the shorts.

alsaqr
November 12, 2008, 01:04 PM
Love my Browning auto in .22 short.

Leadhead
November 12, 2008, 02:16 PM
CB longs are quiet and feed from mags.....otherwise it's tube time like others have suggested.
A Henry pump with an octagon barrel would be nice!

http://www.henryrepeating.com/images/rifles/h003t_pumpoctagon_lg.jpg

rondog
November 12, 2008, 02:21 PM
Do you eat those 'dillos? I've always wondered if they were good eatin', after watching that Willie Nelson movie "Barbarosa".

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b150/rinselman/misc%20stuff/barbarosa_large.jpg

FunkyD
November 12, 2008, 02:26 PM
Remington 572.

Get a good used one - it won't break the bank. Mine's just happy-making accurate and works with anything.

You'd never regret it.

A bit +1 to dat! I love my 572.

CRITGIT
November 12, 2008, 02:32 PM
All these shoot 'em!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/Rimfire01/WIN62-C1.jpg
Win 62 Pump


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/Rimfire01/7a01726a.jpg
Remington 552 Speedmaster Auto Loader


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/Rimfire01/Rossi_62sa_Gallery.jpg
Rossi 62 Pump

CRITGIT

SGW42
November 12, 2008, 02:54 PM
My Remington 581-S bolt action will feed shorts out of the magazine just fine. Just have to take more care when loading the magazine to make sure they are all in there properly.

All of my .22 rifles seem to be more accurate with shorts, strangely enough. I like 'em.

Oohrah
November 12, 2008, 02:58 PM
Remington 552 is the only one I know of that will fire all three.
I have a Win. M.74 semi auto that does shorts only and another
that does LR only. Believe that Browning semi auto still makes
probably on special order, .22 Short only.
Have no idea of your need of Shorts, but cost is close to the same
or more than LR. Plus they are no longer common in all stores like
when I was a kid. If you own a short only rifle, you need to stock up
on ammo. Picked up a carton at Sportsmans Warehouse a couple of
weeks ago, simply because I had not seen them for awhile. Just under
$14 per 500 and Winchester brand.

ggarfield965
November 12, 2008, 03:14 PM
I got a great one, the Marlin 981T. It's a synthetic Modern tack driver that will hold 25 shorts if you are on urban squirrel patrol or 17 LR if you are out for something more serious. Longs too. Plus, bolt action .22s deliver good energy and I can vouch for the micro-groove rifling because I have a very similar Model 925, which is this gun's LR only clip loading equiv. Best of all, this gun is affordable, widely available, and sturdy as hell. Not to dis the 39A, but that is a pretty old design. This comes with dovetail rails built in.

http://www.marlinfirearms.com/Firearms/BoltAction22/981T.asp

Aka Zero
November 12, 2008, 03:59 PM
Most tube feds will feed everything, and a tube holds a lot of short.

Shot some through my old remington autoloader, it would sometimes kick back and feed the next round, sometimes it would stovepipe, might have been the old ammo too.....

mikle76
November 12, 2008, 04:55 PM
Nope, don't eat 'em but the buzzards can't get enough!

Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow
November 12, 2008, 04:59 PM
Levers:
Browning BL-22
Marlin 39
Henry H001
Win 9422

Pumps:
Henry H003
Rem 572

Semis:
Rem 552

Bolt Actions:
Unsure, but in my experience, pretty much ALL of them will feed shorts *IF* you cycle the bolt quickly. Pretty much ALL of them will jam with shorts *IF* you cycle the bolt slowly.

Mike U.
November 12, 2008, 05:06 PM
A good lever gun is hard to beat when it comes to handling the .22 family. Here's my old soldier. Winchester Model 150. Production of these stopped in the mid 70's IIRC. It eats anything from .22 LR on down to .22 CB Short.
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r314/Mike_U_photos/Mvc-059s.jpg

Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow
November 12, 2008, 06:31 PM
I don't know about original Win 62s, but the Taurus 62 clones will NOT - repeat, NOT reliably feed shorts, in my experience. Certainly not as reliably as the ones I posted in my list above, as this is one of my things I've looked into.

Sunray
November 12, 2008, 07:08 PM
"...and save a little cash..." Use a LR. Shorts are usually more expensive.

cuervo
November 12, 2008, 07:30 PM
If you're familiar with CMP for their Garands, they also have some Mossberg M44s.
http://www.thecmp.org/22targetsurplus.htm
http://www.cobs.com/lprgc/m44faq.htm

With the correct magazine, these can take either .22LR, .22L, or .22 short. To use short, there is a screw that goes into the magazine to keep the shorter rounds in place.

New magazines can be had from Havlin sales if they're still around (website not currently working) or at most gun shows.
www.havlinsales.com

MachIVshooter
November 12, 2008, 10:28 PM
Most guns that will fire S, L & LR will suffer some feeding jams with shorts. Nature of the beast. I have a Marlin 39, Marlin 81g and Remington 552. All will fire shorts, all will occasionally jam when using shorts.

The only gun I have that cycles shorts flawlessly is a Remington model 24 that is specifically chambered for shorts. ANd a wonderful little squirrel killer it is.

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n117/Hunter2506/Remingtonmodel24.jpg

papalight
November 12, 2008, 10:37 PM
I have an old Winchester model 190 semiautomatic that will shoot any mixture of short,long and long rifle.

cracked butt
November 12, 2008, 10:46 PM
I have never loaded or tried to load my Rem 541-S or -T magazines with shorts or longs

They will feed shorts just fine ;)

Oddly enough, I bought my son a Savage Cub last year and the manual said that any .22 ammo could be used. I was in a shop a month or so later and noticed that they had the same rifle that had a barrel stamp stating ".22Long Rifle only." I asked the shop owner about it and he was at a loss to explain the reasoning for it.

Timthinker
November 13, 2008, 12:48 AM
This thread is a great place to discuss pump action .22s. Indeed, the pumps that have been discussed here will fire those cartridges just fine. As a sad historical note, Remington is the last American firearms manufacturer to offer a pump .22. Still, these guns are great fun for accurate plinking. In fact, the first firearm I shot was an antique Winchester Model 06. It was a great little shooter.


Timthinker

WNTFW
November 13, 2008, 01:07 AM
Remington 552

Leadhead
November 13, 2008, 02:01 AM
This thread is a great place to discuss pump action .22s. Indeed, the pumps that have been discussed here will fire those cartridges just fine. As a sad historical note, Remington is the last American firearms manufacturer to offer a pump .22. Still, these guns are great fun for accurate plinking. In fact, the first firearm I shot was an antique Winchester Model 06. It was a great little shooter.


Timthinker

Pretty sure Henry is a US company tim.

Timthinker
November 13, 2008, 08:18 AM
I stand corrected on the Henry pump. Let me rephrase myself and say that Remington makes one of the finest American pumps on the market today.:D Actually, both the Remmy pump and their 552 semi-auto are heralds from a past era, although I am they are still in production.


Timthinker

mikle76
November 13, 2008, 09:23 AM
Thanks agian folks! I can't wait for the gunshow next weekend:D:cool:

Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow
November 13, 2008, 09:32 AM
On the Henry pump, I had one and like an idiot, I sold it in a money crunch - it was very accurate and fed everything except Aguila Colibris. Now they don't appear to still make the model I had, the 18.5" regular/round bbl - so shoulda kept it.

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