Where can you NOT carry?
DMW
November 12, 2008, 05:33 PM
I hope this wasn't covered in the past. I live in Massachusetts and have a Class A License to Carry.
Where can you NOT carry?
My licenses also says that I can carry for any legal reason. Anyone have any clarity on what they mean by that?
I was also wondering about my office since I don't want to leave an unattended weapon in my car but I never remember seeing anything in our personnel manual about bringing a gun to work.
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indoorsoccerfrea
November 12, 2008, 05:37 PM
the answers to those can be answered pretty easily...but not by me, i don't know the laws in MA. try looking through MA laws, but if that is too daunting just call the police department and ask them. (911 is not recommended for this...while you may want to know, i dont think you do THAT bad)
as for work, thats between you and your boss. is there a way you could ask your boss about it? are you both on good terms?
CoRoMo
November 12, 2008, 05:50 PM
I'm certain that all government building and offices (post office included) are off limits to CCWs. You can't even take a larger pocket knife in there. Unsure of the blade length on that, I think 3" or more is prohibited, might be smaller.
If you ask your boss, you might expect the reply...
"You know... I've never thought about that before. Let's see... NO. Don't carry a gun here."
Also, if your company rents the office space, the landlord could be the authority regarding weapons on their property.
indoorsoccerfrea
November 12, 2008, 05:53 PM
schools are generally off limits too
Ala Dan
November 12, 2008, 06:24 PM
Courthouses, Air Terminals and other Federal buildings, as well~! ;)
Mainsail
November 12, 2008, 06:27 PM
Actually, it's perfectly legal to carry into the airport here in WA, you just can't try to take it beyond the security checkpoint.
DMW
November 12, 2008, 08:51 PM
After a lot of searching, I found this on a web site of a Mass attorney who specializes in gun law. I thought this might be helpful for others. Thanks for the earlier responses.
Are there any places in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts that I cannot lawfully carry a firearm?
Yes. Some of the more common places include state and federal courthouses, post offices, schools and school grounds, prisons and jails, and virtually all other federal buildings and some state buildings where metal detectors are in use. In many of these places, other than schools and school grounds, if you declare your firearm at the door, you can usually check your firearm, and pick it up on the way out. Do not bring a gun onto school grounds. School grounds include parking lots, driveways, and the grounds outside the building.
A good way to declare your firearm is this: before you enter the building, get your LTC out, and as soon as you enter the building, approach the nearest security guard, hand him your LTC, and quietly tell him you would like to check your firearm. Do not reach for, display or unholster your firearm until asked to do so.
Be sure to use safe gun handling techniques when unholstering and unloading your gun. Don't be the next person to have an accidental discharge in a very public place.
If it is not possible to check your firearm, and if you are not visiting a school, you can comply with state law by leaving your firearm in your car if you first unload it and store it unloaded and locked in: the trunk of your car, a locked case, or some other secure container.
Please note, however, if you leave a firearm in your car, and that firearm is stolen, you could lose your LTC. Use your best judgment in deciding whether it is a good idea to leave your firearm behind when you park your car.
If you do leave an unloaded gun in your car, remember that it is not enough to snap a trigger lock on your firearm and leave the gun on the back seat. Instead, you must unload and carefully secure it locked in the trunk, in a locked case, or another secure container. You should expect that if the police become aware that you have failed to follow these provisions, they will probably file criminal charges against you.
Maia007
November 12, 2008, 10:33 PM
Two and one half inch blade length for knives in federal buildings. Just researched the CFR's this month and am certain.
Which is not to say that anyone will stop you and check if you have say, a three inch spyderco in your pocket with the pocket clip visible.
woodfiend
November 12, 2008, 10:41 PM
Your mom's house.
Coyote3855
November 13, 2008, 01:19 PM
Regardless of what the CFR says, there may be additional restrictions at individual federal buildings. The last time I was in DC, my SAK Classic was confiscated at the metal detector in the entryway of one of Department of Interior buildings.
Phil DeGraves
November 13, 2008, 01:55 PM
I'm certain that all government building and offices (post office included)
That is not correct. It is legal for a LAW ABIDING CITIZEN to carry in a post office.
The Post Office has this posted in their buildings:
"Except as provided in subsection (d), whoever knowingly possesses or causes to be present a firearm in a Federal Facility or attempts to do so shall be fined or imprisoned..."yada, yada, yada.
However, subsection (d) reads:
"Subsection (a) shall not apply to...
(1) Law enforcement (paraphrased)
(2) Armed Forces (paraphrased)
(3) the lawful carrying of firearms incident to hunting or other lawful purpose."
So basically, as long as you are not intending to commit a crime, and you have the necessary state permits if required, and there are no LOCAL laws prohibiting it, concealed carry in the Post Office is legal.
CPshooter
November 14, 2008, 04:54 AM
If it is not possible to check your firearm, and if you are not visiting a school, you can comply with state law by leaving your firearm in your car if you first unload it and store it unloaded and locked in: the trunk of your car, a locked case, or some other secure container.
Please note, however, if you leave a firearm in your car, and that firearm is stolen, you could lose your LTC. Use your best judgment in deciding whether it is a good idea to leave your firearm behind when you park your car.
If you do leave an unloaded gun in your car, remember that it is not enough to snap a trigger lock on your firearm and leave the gun on the back seat. Instead, you must unload and carefully secure it locked in the trunk, in a locked case, or another secure container. You should expect that if the police become aware that you have failed to follow these provisions, they will probably file criminal charges against you.I wasn't aware of any of these laws here in Indiana. I thought your car is considered an extension of your home or personal property, for the most part. Why is it wrong to leave a loaded gun in YOUR car, where others are not supposed to enter?
I once got searched at a seat-belt check point here in Indiana. I had two Glocks in a pistol case. One of them was a g27 with hollow points in the magazine, but it wasn't chambered. I was either 18 or 19 years old and had my concealed carry permit. Cops ran the numbers on the guns to "check if they were stolen." Gave them back with no problems and sent me on my way.
Does anybody know if it's legal to carry with a permit on a college campus? The several colleges I've been to, including the one I attend, are set up like little towns or cities and sometimes have their own area code. It's hard to distinguish whether or not you are on school grounds or on a public street at any given time. Even if it's illegal I somehow feel justified carrying on campus after the V-tech shooting. I figure if I don't tell anyone, how can I get in trouble? And if I ever need to protect myself from a stressed out college student on a shooting spree, I'll have the means to do so. Is it wrong to think like this?
ezypikns
November 14, 2008, 10:32 AM
when you took your mandatory training course to receive you license? Does Massachusetts not require such a course?
That's one of the primary points in our required training in Texas.
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