What entry level bolt action rifles have a detachable magazine?


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JackOfAllTradesMasterAtNone
November 13, 2008, 02:31 PM
OK, I'm looking at a Marlin XL7 in .270win for my son. Only draw back for a modern hunting rifle is that it doesn't have a detachable magazine or even a drop open floor plate. I love the Tikka, but it's a bit out of the tax bracket right now.

The boy says to sell his Rossi Triple Play, .22, 20ga, .243 so he can get a local XL7 in .270.

So, is there anything else out there that's a bigger bang for the buck than the XL7? Something with a detachable mag, but without an adjustable trigger maybe? (I can swap a trigger group)

Anyone ever seen a conversion/kit for a sporterized 03-A3 to have a detachable magazine?

Seen one for a Mauser or Enfield action?



-Steve

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gvnwst
November 13, 2008, 02:35 PM
The remington 700 SPS DM is a detachable. Not sure if that is what you are looking for. 'bout $600 lasttime i checked.

JackOfAllTradesMasterAtNone
November 13, 2008, 02:46 PM
I'm not a Remington fan... Thanx though. And that is twice what the XL7 goes for.

I know, I know... Sometimes you get what you pay for.

-Steve

Ol` Joe
November 13, 2008, 03:03 PM
The CZ 550 has a detachable mag in 243 & 308 I believe.

MAKster
November 13, 2008, 04:44 PM
There is a Savage 110 combo deal with synthetic stock, detachable magazine, and scope for around $350

brooks
November 13, 2008, 04:46 PM
Savage rifles now come with detach magazines and floor plates in same price range. Probably a bit more. Accutrigger models are selling for about $90 over older triggers---about what I paid for a good aftermarket trigger.

USMC-Mustang
November 13, 2008, 08:40 PM
+1 for the CZ 550. Outstanding rifles. Comes in a 270 as well. Detachable mag, mauser action, single set adjustable trigger.

The Deer Hunter
November 13, 2008, 10:08 PM
You really shouldn't let something little like a detachable magazine be a deciding factor in purchasing a rifle, especially when your on a budget.

trstafford
November 13, 2008, 11:04 PM
Consider the CZ 527 Carbine in 7.62x39 or Ruger 44 mag in bolt action or lever action. Both guns are light, caliber is more than adequate for deer from 100-200 yards. Don't have to worry about shooting into the next state if shot is missed, bullets are more than adequate in weight in normal loadings. The 7.62x39 ammunition can be purchased very cheap for practice and good quality hunting ammo can be found. Also since all have detachable magazine they are safer to unload and you can control ammunition by controlling the magazine until needed.


http://cz-usa.com/product_detail.php?id=15

ECVMatt
November 14, 2008, 01:23 AM
The Marlin's are great rifles and seem to be working out pretty well. You could also look at the Stevens 200 and the Mossberg ATR. I think Weatherby is coming out with a pretty inexpensive version of their Vanguard as well.

If your son is used to a single shot, he should have no problem hunting with a 4 or 5 shot repeater. I am not expert, but I have spent a good amount of time hunting here and there. I have never felt the need to have a DM on my hunting rifles.

After a 12 day moose hunt in AK, I really began to like the blind magazines of the Remington ADLs. My ADL 700 stayed much cleaner than my buddies Win Model 70 with a floor plate. Lots of dirt found it was into his rifle.

Making your first shot count is much more important than a pocket full of magazines. I think your son should already be pretty good at that given his present set up.

Good Luck,

Matt

litman252
November 14, 2008, 01:30 AM
Mossberg 4x4 has one, more than the Marlin but good rifle for the $

Tony

JackOfAllTradesMasterAtNone
November 14, 2008, 12:50 PM
I do like that the Marlin can cycle the bolt with the safety ON. Which I can't do with my tang safety Ruger77. A hinged floor plate would be fine, but I do understand the added entry points for dirt. I showed him the difference in the closed and open magazine types, he feels comfortable that he can master the unload process without dropping shells on the ground every time.

Yes, first shot placement is paramount. My boys learned that quick with the single shot rifles. I started both boys out with open sights and once they've gotten their first deer I've allowed them to have a scope. Success scoped now too. So it's time to upgrade.

As for an entry level bolt rifle, I think a removable magazine would be great. No, not something for a magnum or target/varmint gun where you need more strength in the stock and reciever but would be sweet in a deer gun. I won't disagree, a closed box magazine rifle does look better.

-Steve

ny32182
November 14, 2008, 01:43 PM
Just to confirm, my CZ 550 .308 has a detachable mag. I bought it used for $400. I'm not sure exactly what they go for new.

VirgilCaine
November 14, 2008, 01:57 PM
After my experiences with my M44, I'd have to say a detachable magazine would be much more convenient than cycling the bolt four or five times.

Taurus92 in KyleTX
November 18, 2008, 06:27 PM
Idiot question alert!!
(I'm a semi-auto guy, but wanting a bolt-action, and considering the Mossberg ATR or Marlin XL7)

For BA Rifles with top-loading mags, I'm assuming you load the mag, with the bolt open, similar to, say, an SKS (non-bubba-fied)?

And, if you load the mag, you will always get a chambered round when you close the bolt, no?

If the above is true, then how do you get 4 +1 capacity, as gallery of guns has listed for the XL7?

Does the mag hold 5 cartridges, but one always gets chambered?

Can you load the mag and close the bolt w/o chambering a round?

I appreciate any and all patience with my "noob" questions.

Mike J
November 18, 2008, 06:44 PM
Taurus if you don't want to chamber a round you just load the mag-then push down on the top round with your finger while you push the bolt partially closed with your other hand-once the bolt is past about halfway up the cartridge you just move your finger out of the way & close the bolt. You now have a full magazine & an empty chamber. I never really worried too much about topping off. Capacity isn't usually a big issue deer hunting. Though I do keep a few extra cartridges in a cheapo holder on my buttstock.

litman252
November 19, 2008, 02:45 AM
And if you want the 3 (or 4) plus one you just pop the mag out after running the bolt and add the one and reinsert the mag, although I agree in hunting situations it is not needed.

It is nice to throw in a new mag on a closed bolt after shooting 2-3 rounds though.

FWLIIW,

Tony

Wesson Smith
November 19, 2008, 03:29 AM
You want a Browning X-Bolt.

litman252
November 19, 2008, 10:55 PM
If thats what he wants why would he be looking at guns under $400??

I want a Corvette, but I look at a minivan..................

Tony

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