Gun Owners Lost the Election...what Precautions Are You taking?


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TooTaxed
November 16, 2008, 01:23 PM
I expect various bans and high taxes to be enacted on ammunition, so I'm stocking up on reloading components. Ir's possible that registration could be required for large component purchases in the future, and I want to remain "under the radar".

I've already collected enough cases from my local range to last me for the rest of my life, and I'm well set on reloading equipment.

I've standardized on powder, IMR #4895 for all rifle from .223 Rem up through 8-mm Mauser (can also use it for light bullet loads in 300 Win Mag), and Win #231 for all handgun from 9-mm Luger up through .45 Colt. Reloader 22 works for the magnum rifles.

Besides shopping bargains on bullets, I'm acquiring cast bullet molds for my commonly used rifles and pistols, as well as gas checks, lead, and wheel weights which I obtain from my local scrap metals dealer. (Tried to buy the wheelweights from my local Big O tire company, but they won't do it. Will look for other tire companies...) Still need to get several more bullet dies for my lubri-sizer, and perhaps I should lay in a stock of lubes also...

Any other ideas, or suggestions?

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Walkalong
November 16, 2008, 01:37 PM
This is why I never sold my molds or my lead stock when I quit casting. ;)

We really have no clue how bad, or not so bad, it is going to get. A bit of stock for possible lean times won't hurt though.

ReloaderFred
November 16, 2008, 01:44 PM
Primers. Without them, none of the above listed will work. They're already getting more scarce than they were before the election and the prices are going up, from what I've seen.

Hope this helps.

Fred

Walkalong
November 16, 2008, 01:50 PM
Yea, primers, good advise Fred. :)

ants
November 16, 2008, 02:23 PM
Of course, our own mad rush to stock up results in jacking up the price higher than a tax would.
Pretty soon you and I will price ourselves right out of reloading.
How fiendishly clever, these anti-reloading devils.

TooTaxed
November 16, 2008, 02:28 PM
Have already laid in 10,000 of each of the four common sizes...wouldn't have gotten that many, but lucked out on a recent estate sale, bidding about half what they were worth...was surprised to get them...:D

Ditto with the powder! Wound up with a couple of unopened 8-lb kegs of each of IMR #4895 and Win #231...and the jacketed bullets!:p

Otto
November 16, 2008, 03:41 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/Leander/Tinfoilguy.jpg

alsaqr
November 16, 2008, 04:36 PM
I still have thousands of primers that were bought during the "Clinton is going to outlaw primers scare."

TooTaxed
November 16, 2008, 04:38 PM
OTTO...can it be that you are taking poison!?:what: It really isn't QUITE that bad...yet...

AnthonyC.
November 16, 2008, 04:41 PM
I have sold every single one of my guns/ammo, no need to worry now!:neener:

Walkalong
November 16, 2008, 04:44 PM
results in jacking up the price higher than a tax wouldNot if they manage to pass a 300% tax like has been tried in the past!!!! I don't think they can get that through though. :)

Otto
November 16, 2008, 06:16 PM
TooTaxed,
I buy components based on rational decisions, not paranoid speculations.
Threads like this incite anxiety and fear and provides no constructive service.

Uncle Chan
November 16, 2008, 06:34 PM
TooTaxed,
I buy components based on rational decisions, not paranoid speculations.
Threads like this incite anxiety and fear and provides no constructive service.
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Amen. Let's keep it together, ok?

NC-Mike
November 16, 2008, 08:44 PM
I spent all my money on an AK, an AR, a PSL and a gaggle of hi-cap pistol and rifle mags.

Now I can't even afford to buy a single box of primers for awhile. :D

jcwit
November 16, 2008, 08:54 PM
Well you really stayed "under the radar" by posting this on the WWW

NC-Mike
November 16, 2008, 09:01 PM
Well you really stayed "under the radar" by posting this on the WWW


http://unicashare.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/06/21/eight.gif


:D

jcwit
November 16, 2008, 09:35 PM
Glad you see it my way Mike.

jeepmor
November 16, 2008, 10:07 PM
Primers, can't have enough.

Paranoia, yeah, a bit much lately.

NC-Mike
November 16, 2008, 10:25 PM
Primers, can't have enough.

I hate when people say this. It makes me feel very inadequate!

:(

jcwit
November 16, 2008, 10:34 PM
Paranoia, yeah, trouble is it's to late, we needed it on Nov. 4th, but thats history now.

NC-Mike
November 16, 2008, 10:39 PM
We had plenty of paranoia on Nov.4 but it was mostly about the economy...

This year was a perfect storm for the democrats but Obama still has to go through congress to get things done and most of the new democrats are blue-dogs so we can only hope for the best.

I thought Obama was a lock to win a couple months ago so I bought a few rifles and hi-cap mags cause I think the least they will do is bring back the AWB.

jcwit
November 16, 2008, 11:01 PM
I truly hope you're right, and I really try to keep an up-beat attitude. Well this seems to be going political and didn't really want it to so I'm bowing out.

ants
November 17, 2008, 12:11 AM
When reloading is outlawed, only outlaws will reload!

evan price
November 17, 2008, 01:42 AM
My preparations have so far been to try to relax and enjoy my life. I bought up stuff starting after the 2004 squeaky defeat of Kerry- it really showed me what anti-Repub backlash was waiting in the wings- and I have slowly amassed when I saw bargains.

I refuse to reward people who see the coming Obama presidency as a wonderful opportunity to jack up the price on common items and screw over their fellow gunnies. Those sort of folks are no ally to the 2A.

And then we have all the posts which are basically, "Went out and bought 56000 primers and 30 pounds of powder and 200 Pmags and 12 cases of ammo and 6 AR lowers mmkayyy..." Wow, you so have what you need for the rest of your life. Thanks for sharing.

robctwo
November 17, 2008, 01:49 AM
I spent some $ on my Democratic newly elected Senator and Representative from Oregon and let them know that gun owners and shooters who happen to agree with many of the economic and social issues advocated by democrats will not be happy with any actions against guns or ammo. We'll see.

Did anyone want to buy an $80 18 round Glock magazine? I have a few.

snuffy
November 17, 2008, 02:08 AM
I tried to go online to buy a few extra 30 rnd. AR mags last week. Out of stock on them and some glock hi-caps I thought about.

Same goes for primers locally. Limit 1,000 per customer IF they have any!

TooTaxed
November 17, 2008, 09:49 AM
EVAN PRICE, I'm with you.

All of my purchases have been at discount...I have constantly kept an eye out for bargains, and purchased to keep components for about 500 rounds of each cartridge I shot. I never bought retail...the bargains are out there, if you search. Free cases picked up at my ranges, INET sales at Midway and Grafs, items posted on my gun range bulletin board, and bulk purchases from the surplus component dealers listed in Shotgun News were my norm.

Running across the huge estate sale was a once-in-a lifetime opportunity. I really didn't need much, so I made ridiculously low bids...about 50% of value (and suggested to the family how they could better market them...which they did for the reloading equipment)...and won big time! I have enough that I don't expect to make any more component purchases in my lifetime...and prices will only increase in the future...I figure I made a good investment. :D

Now to take another look at my bullet casting gear...:scrutiny:

TooTaxed
November 17, 2008, 09:58 AM
ROBCTWO, what you say about letting our newly elected/reelected congressional representatives know...EARLY ON...how seriously we feel about anti gun/shooting legislation is a must! I have done so also...and will continue to keep the heat on. We can certainly expect the AWB to be brought up again...expanded, with tougher language, and probably with no end date as we were fortunately able to tack on as an amendment to the ffirst one.:fire: We should surely try to get that same amendment on the next one.

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