Does everyone's AR-15 go "SPROINGGG"?


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1KPerDay
November 17, 2008, 02:12 PM
I took my wife and son shooting last weekend and noticed, again, that my Colt SP-1 makes a distinct sproinging sound. I assume this is from the action spring reverberating inside the buttstock. With every shot you can hear (and feel) a "sproingssgggggggggggggg" for about half a second. The rifle is 100% stock AFAIK. I've never shot another AR but I did shoot an M4 (full auto) and I don't remember it doing that. But I may have been deafened by adrenaline.

Maybe it's the "old style" action spring? I assume they've probably been upgraded or improved over the years... or do all ARs go sproing? Everyone who shoots my rifle comments on it.

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General Geoff
November 17, 2008, 02:15 PM
I just gotta say, your thread title made my day. :)

Rottweiler
November 17, 2008, 02:15 PM
Slather some heavy grease on the spring and put it back in and the noise will be severely cut down.
The only down side to this is it can get a bit messy

Omaha-BeenGlockin
November 17, 2008, 02:16 PM
Just the nature of the beast.

My ACE stock seems to cut it down a bit.

Hoppy590
November 17, 2008, 02:22 PM
Grease cuts it down, but yes AR's go SPROING!

highorder
November 17, 2008, 02:26 PM
I use Lubri-plate grease. The contents of one grease pot (for my M1) coats the spring nicely.

I think that many people underlube their AR's in general. They really do run better "wet."

gvnwst
November 17, 2008, 02:27 PM
It is the spring in the buffer tube. As said above, grease helps, but is messy.

coloradokevin
November 17, 2008, 02:29 PM
This thread title made me smile!

Best way I've ever heard the AR-15 quirk described! For what it's worth, every AR I've ever shot makes that sound. My personal one does it, my work one does it, and my friend's AR's do it :)

mljdeckard
November 17, 2008, 02:33 PM
Not only is it how it sounds, we are used to it in the army. We NEVER grease the inside of the buffer tube or spring, because the armorer wants it back clean and dry. Can you imagine trying to wipe that thing clean of grease? But as far as private weapons go, I can't see how it would be anything but good to keep it greased.

esq_stu
November 17, 2008, 02:35 PM
that sound drives me nuts. But just remember you hear it because your cheek is resting right next to the buffer spring and the ear muffs don't prevent sound from being conducted from your cheek into your head.

Sounds kind of funny, but nobody that has not shot an EBR will know unless you tell.:D

ArmedBear
November 17, 2008, 02:37 PM
If you wear a good set of earmuffs and get a good cheek weld, you hear the SPROING through the stock and your face, but you don't hear much of the report from the muzzle -- especially with a 20" or longer barrel.

jerkface11
November 17, 2008, 02:48 PM
mmmm colt sp1 mmmmmm

garyhan
November 17, 2008, 03:07 PM
Yep.

gary

mp510
November 17, 2008, 03:11 PM
That's the spring in the buffer tube being compressed and released when the bolt operates. Perfectly natural.

Eightball
November 17, 2008, 03:13 PM
I have to admit......I'm not sure if the "SPROING" is distinctive in my 16". Is this a problem, or am I just not hearing the "SPROING" as the "SPROING," am I just thinking it's something else, am I hearing it wrong?

Omaha-BeenGlockin
November 17, 2008, 03:14 PM
Don't grease your spring---the only thing you want wet is the bolt/carrier.

Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow
November 17, 2008, 03:14 PM
The one good thing about the annoying sproing is that its absence let's you know when you're out of ammo instantly.

Freelance Tax Collector
November 17, 2008, 03:26 PM
What's the matter with all your rifles? Mine never does that!

Oh wait, it's cause I have an AR180 without that infernal tube. :neener:

mordechaianiliewicz
November 17, 2008, 04:23 PM
That sproiinggg you describe is part of the beauty and magic that is AR-15s.

Walkalong
November 17, 2008, 04:30 PM
The Sproinggg bugged me too. I asked here (http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=378733) just as you have and was told by many to live with it or learn to enjoy it like some do. "Nope, just enjoy the music. The "sproiing" is the sound of a happy AR." ;) (my wink)
Besides the grease suggestion, some suggested I get an adjustable stock. I put a Magpul MOE stock on one gun and a M4Socom stock on another. No Sproinggg worth mentioning any more.

Seems it really amplifies itself in the stadard fixed stock.

takhtakaal
November 17, 2008, 04:35 PM
Mine goes "sproing" like an aluminum storm door, less so if I grease the spring up with some Militec grease.

Now, the real question is this: does an AR in 9mm go *POP* *POP* like a Glock?

Gewehr98
November 17, 2008, 04:37 PM
Until I put a dab of Lubriplate on the buffer spring. Not a lot, just a smidgen, and problem gone. ;)

Walkalong
November 17, 2008, 04:39 PM
does an AR in 9mm go *POP* *POP* like a Glock?Nope, sounds much better. :D

Love mine. A must have if you like AR's and cheap shooting.

blkbrd666
November 17, 2008, 04:47 PM
No, mine doesn't have that many g's in it, and no i at all. Now, the stopper gun I got for Christmas one year did that.

jerkface11
November 17, 2008, 04:48 PM
My 9mm AR goes sproing. But it takes Glock mags!

Grizfire
November 17, 2008, 04:49 PM
But the real questions is....do YOU go "SPROING" when you fire your AR.

misANTHrope
November 17, 2008, 05:02 PM
I kind of like it. As mentioned before, it makes for a good indicator of an empty magazine.

cracked butt
November 17, 2008, 05:13 PM
Its normal for an AR- learn to love it .

If you ar ewearing ear muffs, swtich to ear plugs. The hard shell of muffs transmits the sproig vibration right to your head, amplifying it.

Mike2
November 17, 2008, 05:19 PM
Yep but I would call it more of a SPPPPROOOOOING than a Sproing, or something like that anyway.

Eightball
November 17, 2008, 05:45 PM
If you ar ewearing ear muffs, swtich to ear plugs. The hard shell of muffs transmits the sproig vibration right to your head, amplifying it.This might be why I don't hear it so well--I wear the disposable "in the ear" type.

1KPerDay
November 17, 2008, 06:28 PM
So do I... still hear it fine.

Now I need to work on the trigger... the stock one is crisp but it feels like about 8 pounds.

H2O MAN
November 17, 2008, 06:48 PM
That sound should bring a smile to my face because I have not experienced the SPROINGGGGggg of an AR in a long time.






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Beagle-zebub
November 17, 2008, 06:58 PM
I've yet to experience this phenomenon, but it hopefully will sound like the Hanna-Barbera acoustic-guitar-getting-smashed sound-effect.

Tarvis
November 17, 2008, 07:00 PM
If someone hasn't already mentioned it, a collapsible stock (possibly any stock that has more of the tube exposed) isn't as loud as an A2 stock.

Just a thought.

H2O MAN
November 17, 2008, 07:03 PM
Tarvis If someone hasn't already mentioned it, a collapsible stock
(possibly any stock that has more of the tube exposed) isn't as loud as an A2 stock.

I'm glad I decided to go with the A1 & A2 butt stock... wouldn't want to diminish the experience :evil:

MD_Willington
November 17, 2008, 07:08 PM
Even my Saiga .223 does that... not sure why but it does...

kry_90
November 17, 2008, 08:06 PM
my ar did that when i first bought it but every time i clean it i put a small dab of grease and a little oil just enough not to be messy and it doesnt makes that noise

Colin Doyle
November 17, 2008, 08:28 PM
My Cavalry Arms carbine doesn't do it... must have something to do with the plastic tube.

I was unaware of the noise until someone who owns a Bushmaster shot my rifle, then commented on the lack of SPPPRRRROINGGG. :neener:

goldie
November 17, 2008, 09:42 PM
it seems like colts make more of that spriong noise than my rra ar.my hbar sproings noticabley ,but the rra hardly does at all.....

RockyMtnTactical
November 18, 2008, 02:44 PM
The "rifle" versions seem to have a more distinct sound, at least that is what I have found.

sammy
November 18, 2008, 03:05 PM
Be careful with the grease. I put a light coating on the buffer spring and it caused short stroking.

bobotech
November 18, 2008, 03:37 PM
I hate that noise. Makes me think that my AR is cheap because that noise sounds cheap.

My AK doesn't make that noise. :)

Odd Job
November 18, 2008, 03:54 PM
I also hate the noise.
Tried an AR in Florida recently and it is a noise I couldn't live with.
I wouldn't buy an AR if I could get something else that was equivalent in terms of accuracy and reliability.

Guy de Loimbard
November 18, 2008, 04:46 PM
I have a High Standard, 16 in barrel, collapsable stock. It says "Sproingg!" That's how I know it went off, lately I listen for that more than for the BANG.

taliv
November 18, 2008, 04:51 PM
try sproinging in full auto sometime :)

fwiw, only one of my AR15s sproings. the remainder are quiet. of course, they also have magpul or other collapsible stocks

greyling22
November 18, 2008, 05:04 PM
it bothered me enough to turn me off AR's. not saying they are a bad gun. just not for me. I was talking about it to some guy though, and he said there was some kind of air piston or something that did not go sproing.

Frog48
November 18, 2008, 05:04 PM
Nope, neither my Bushmaster nor DPMS make that noise.

1KPerDay
November 18, 2008, 06:22 PM
Do they have collapsable stocks?

CZguy
November 18, 2008, 06:22 PM
My old Colt goes sproing.

I've shot them for 30 years and am always reminded that the sproing is soaking up recoil for a fast (aimed) second shot.

The noise doesn't bother me in the least.

HOLY DIVER
November 18, 2008, 08:09 PM
we all agree the noise is normal
i like it.......just like i love sound of a 3screw ruger going click...click...click
or the sound of a pump shotgun shucking one in the chamber!
music to my ears!

MTMilitiaman
November 18, 2008, 09:14 PM
That sproiinggg you describe is part of the beauty and magic that is AR-15s.

Beauty and magic?

You mean having a rifle that sounds like a cartoon is a good thing? You like dressing up like an operator so you can play Army with the playful talking rabbit and crafty, scheming duck?

Alarm clocks go "SPOING" when hit by obnoxiously large animated hammers. Po-go sticks go "SPOING." The trampoline at the base of the cliff goes "SPOING" when it catches the coyote falling from the sky. Nothing I want with me when my life is on the line goes "SPOING." Nothing.

Real rifles do not go "SPOING!"

Macmac
November 18, 2008, 09:18 PM
And the rest of the story is,,, We all know where that last viagra went. Sproing!

HOLY DIVER
November 18, 2008, 09:23 PM
Beauty and magic?

You mean having a rifle that sounds like a cartoon is a good thing? You like dressing up like an operator so you can play Army with the playful talking rabbit and crafty, scheming duck?

Alarm clocks go "SPOING" when hit by obnoxiously large animated hammers. Po-go sticks go "SPOING." The trampoline at the base of the cliff goes "SPOING" when it catches the coyote falling from the sky. Nothing I want with me when my life is on the line goes "SPOING." Nothing.

Real rifles do not go "SPOING!"
__________________
M1A--because volume is fine, but accuracy is final.

well i think you hear it because of the way the rifle was designed haveing the spring in the butt stock
what about that clanck noise a M1A makes?

RockyMtnTactical
November 18, 2008, 10:34 PM
Real rifles do not go "SPOING!"

Totally irrelevant to anything, proves your ridiculous bias against the AR15, and ruins your credibility in any AR15 argument.

1KPerDay
November 19, 2008, 01:05 AM
You mean having a rifle that sounds like a cartoon is a good thing? You like dressing up like an operator so you can play Army with the playful talking rabbit and crafty, scheming duck?

Alarm clocks go "SPOING" when hit by obnoxiously large animated hammers. Po-go sticks go "SPOING." The trampoline at the base of the cliff goes "SPOING" when it catches the coyote falling from the sky. Nothing I want with me when my life is on the line goes "SPOING." Nothing.
LOL whatta maroon. :D

HB
November 19, 2008, 01:08 AM
I've yet to experience this phenomenon, but it hopefully will sound like the Hanna-Barbera acoustic-guitar-getting-smashed sound-effect.

Very, very sharp reference there, I like it :D

Still 2 Many Choices!?
November 19, 2008, 01:09 AM
I don't even notice it most of the time. Usually only hear it off the bench for some reason:confused: ?

Still 2 Many Choices!?

Rshooter
November 19, 2008, 01:18 AM
Say what? Huh? No, I never heard my AR-15 go Sprong.

Honestly I have not heard that sound since I was in the military using the M16.

jpwilly
November 19, 2008, 01:24 AM
I shot a Colt HBAR that made that noise but my DPMS AR-15's don't seem to be all that audible? Maybe I'm not listening for it?

meef
November 19, 2008, 01:34 AM
SPROINGGG.....!!!

Oh yeah.....

Followed by......

SWHWINNNGG...!!!

Gotta love it.





So to speak......

jpatterson
November 19, 2008, 01:53 AM
My Colt sproings like a machine. Does seem to be louder than the other ARs I've fired.

You mean having a rifle that sounds like a cartoon is a good thing? You like dressing up like an operator so you can play Army with the playful talking rabbit and crafty, scheming duck?
Alarm clocks go "SPOING" when hit by obnoxiously large animated hammers. Po-go sticks go "SPOING." The trampoline at the base of the cliff goes "SPOING" when it catches the coyote falling from the sky. Nothing I want with me when my life is on the line goes "SPOING." Nothing.
Real rifles do not go "SPOING!"

WOW!!

MTMilitiaman
November 19, 2008, 02:24 AM
what about that clanck noise a M1A makes?

What about it? I'll take "clank" over "spoing" without hesitation.

Totally irrelevant to anything, proves your ridiculous bias against the AR15, and ruins your credibility in any AR15 argument.

Totally irrelevant to anything, proves your ridiculous bias for the AR15, and ruins your credibility in any argument...

In all seriousness, it isn't like I didn't give the AR/M16 a chance. I know how to operate it, keep it running, and hit with it under pressure. I can be effective with it. And I tried to give it my affection. But in the end, it never proved itself to be anything special to me. It feels, sounds, and operates like a cartoon. I just can't take it seriously. If ARs get you all hot and bothered, by all means, go for it. But as for me, any bias I hold against the AR, it worked very hard to earn.

GregGry
November 19, 2008, 02:59 AM
On a serious note I have a problem regarding this noise. Its been so long since I have shot my bushmaster that I have no idea if it does it or not? A trip to the outdoor range in in order :D

RockyMtnTactical
November 19, 2008, 03:58 AM
I just can't take it seriously.

So, if someone were shooting at you with an AR15, you'd just have a good laugh and be on your merry way?

A terrorist with an AK = threat?
A terrorist with an AR = Clown? (scary to some, I know, even w/o the firearm)

It's one thing not to like the platform all that much, but you can hardly comment on the AR15 without making some wacky statement like this that really hurts your credibility.

It's a battle proven weapon that has seen combat through several decades and continues to serve our military as well as a tremendous amount of our LE. Not to mention, it appears to be even more popular among Americans than the AK (among others in this general category). It must be doing something right.

No amount of your pure disdain for the AR15 will ever change that. An AR15 in the hands of a rifleman is a very dangerous weapon. Something to be taken very seriously... especially if it is pointed in your direction.

The fact that an AR15 makes a certain sound when fired means absolutely nothing. It doesn't affect the effectiveness of the round one bit. There's no case for any argument in this regard.

lonegunman
November 19, 2008, 09:28 AM
You never hear that noise when it matters,,,,,oddly enough.

30 cal slob
November 19, 2008, 09:30 AM
my sproing is bigger than yours (gas piston upper).

BornAgainBullseye
November 19, 2008, 09:35 AM
For those that are fortunate enough.... theirs go da...da...daoingggggg

Bostekrisco
November 19, 2008, 11:48 AM
LOL whatta maroon.

Now THAT was funny.:D

I haven't noticed the SPROINGG with my new M&P15A yet. I must be doing something wrong.

Deer Hunter
November 19, 2008, 11:50 AM
Mine usually go BANG!

What are you guys putting in your magazines? :D

gvnwst
November 19, 2008, 11:53 AM
I can't hear the sproing anymore, my muzzle brake is LOUD!

alistaire
November 19, 2008, 12:02 PM
It should go Bang Bang Bang Bang Bang Bang Bang Bang PING! Oh, wait that's a Garand...

Byron
November 19, 2008, 12:04 PM
One good thing about the Sproinggg is that when the last round is fired,it is 1/2 a Sproinggg and time to quickly change mags. Byron

hankdatank1362
November 19, 2008, 12:22 PM
I've never shot an AR-10. Do they have the same sproing as it's little brother?

nathan
November 19, 2008, 12:39 PM
Makes those GI boys in Nam feel good esp VCs on sights.

AirPower
November 19, 2008, 01:04 PM
What about the pneumatic piston that some company makes. I've read you can swap it out for the spring and buffer and it'll take away the SPROOING. Do they work?

Eyesac
November 19, 2008, 01:36 PM
So, if someone were shooting at you with an AR15, you'd just have a good laugh and be on your merry way? Well, he'd hear a "sprrroing" and then he'd be on his merry way...:neener:

jhansman
November 19, 2008, 04:17 PM
Mine used to say "Ni!", but now says "'Ecky-ecky-ecky-ecky-pikang-zoop-boing-goodem-zu-owly-zhiv."

Friendly, Don't Fire!
November 19, 2008, 04:22 PM
Any that I've ever shot make that noise. After a while, you don't even bother to notice it. When it accompanies a spring flying out, then it's time to worry.:eek:

MTMilitiaman
November 19, 2008, 08:22 PM
RMT

You got me all wrong, brotha...

The AR is a firearm. It is extremely accurate, generally reliable, and I have enough experience with it to respect its capabilities. All firearms are capable of immense power in the right (or wrong) hands and must be respected. I am no fool.

Confidence in your weapon is an important factor that can not be overlooked or underestimated. Personally, a man's relationship with his rifle mimics other relationships in that it doesn't matter how attractive he or she is, or how funny or smart or capable--if trust is lacking, the relationship is doomed to fail. I do not see how judgment of a weapon platform in this regard, based on experience, qualifies as bias and disqualifies me to argue about it or any other platform. I could say the same about you and the M14. It has become obvious in your many posts that while you may respect the platform, you do not find the enjoyment from it that I do. That is fine. But finding disfavor in a weapon's shooting characteristics is a very valid concern.

I tried to trust the AR. Maybe some find my reasons for not childish and insignificant. Again, that is fine. But the fact is that I don't trust it, even if I respect it and even admire some aspects of its performance. It just doesn't do "it" for me, whatever "it" is. If it gives you a warm fuzzy feeling, fine. But you can't expect it to do the same for everyone, and it certainly does not for me.

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