Republican Vice Presidential Candidates?
Ala Dan
September 18, 2003, 01:54 PM
Since we are on a "Presidential Roll" of sort's, I will bring
up another avenue of thought.:uhoh:
If perhaps current Vice President Dick Cheney is unable
to run, or simply don't want to run for re-election; just
who would you like too see as President Bush's running
mate on the Republican ticket?
FootNote: One that I would not want for sure, would be
Alabama's Republican Governor Bob Riley !
Best Wishes,
Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member
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Waitone
September 18, 2003, 02:32 PM
"When-it-comes-to-the-second-amendment,-I'm-an-absolutist" Condi Rice
buzz_knox
September 18, 2003, 02:39 PM
Bush/Rice in 2004
Rice/McClintock in 2008.
That'll make all the liberals absolutely scream.
jsalcedo
September 18, 2003, 02:44 PM
Condi/Coulter in 2004!!
Sean Smith
September 18, 2003, 02:58 PM
The smartest thing the Republicans could do would be to run Rice for VP in 2004 and then for president in 2008. Have Cheney bow out "for his health" and set up the Republican party to be something other than the party nobody but white men vote for.
Probably won't happen, but it would be pure genius.
Ala Dan
September 18, 2003, 03:08 PM
How about Gen. Colin Powell, one of the most respected
persons on captiol hill?
Best Wishes,
Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member
Danimal
September 18, 2003, 03:11 PM
I have to pile on the Condi bandwagon here. She brings a lot to the table in terms of brains and experience. I got the privilige of being on her advance team detail when she was here in Oregon. She is an amazing woman and I would support her in a heartbeat.
(Oh yeah, she is also a conservative minority woman. That'll make the liberals drop a deuce. :D )
BigG
September 18, 2003, 03:25 PM
My opinion of Colin is that he has no more republican in him than LBJ did. YMMV
Ala Dan
September 18, 2003, 03:45 PM
Another Republican to throw into the mix; abeit he
has compromised his opinion on the key issue here,
"Gun Control". How about the distinquished (former
POW) senator, John McCain-R from the great state
of Arizona?
*FootNote- I too could support a ticket with Condi
on it; probably the smartest female in Washington.
Best Wishes,
Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life member
Quartus
September 18, 2003, 04:03 PM
How about Gen. Colin Powell, one of the most respected
persons on captiol hill?
Now that Klinton can't run again, Powell is one of the most dangerous men in America. He's a shoo-in to win if he runs, and he's about as conservative as Teddy Kennedy.
He's no more a friend of freedom than Clark is.
vitiaz
September 18, 2003, 05:47 PM
Sean sez:
"Probably won't happen, but it would be pure genius."
I have heard this being considered...Rice and Cheny to swap positions. Sounds like a winner to me!
G-Raptor
September 18, 2003, 06:06 PM
Bush/Rice in 2004
Rice/McClintock in 2008.
That'll make all the liberals absolutely scream.
YEAH, I'm down with that!! :D
Although I was very impressed with Tommy Franks on the Letterman show last night. I think the Repubs might have a general up their sleeves.
The Dems bet one "Wesley Clark", the Repubs call their bet and raise one "Tommy Franks". Could be interesting. :cool:
Sean Smith
September 18, 2003, 07:22 PM
If military prowess is any indication, Franks would make Clark wear his ??? for a hat.
Brett Bellmore
September 18, 2003, 07:30 PM
Dan, I can't see McCain EVER getting near the Republican nomination, after that hostile takeover attempt he pulled during the 2000 primaries. Asking the Dems to cross over and vote for him in the Republican primaries wasn't exactly a way to win friends, and it's not something that will be forgotten.
Checking out his positions (http://www.issues2000.org/John_McCain.htm), I see quite a few that stink on ice.
Throwing the Taiwanese to the mainland commies.
More gun control.
More drug war.
And, of course, his signature issue: Making it illegal for us to say anything bad about him in public. :rolleyes:
I'm jumping on the Condi bandwaggon.
Skunkabilly
September 18, 2003, 07:33 PM
Asians for Rice 2004!!!
Standing Wolf
September 18, 2003, 07:49 PM
Rice.
Quartus
September 18, 2003, 08:21 PM
How about Gen. Colin Powell, one of the most respected persons on captiol hill?
How about the distinquished (former POW) senator, John McCain-R from the great state of Arizona?
:confused:
You seem to have a preference for RINOs, Ala Dan.
seeker_two
September 18, 2003, 09:37 PM
My sig line says it all...
(Who takes which spot? I don't care. It's all good...:D )
Ala Dan
September 18, 2003, 09:45 PM
Thanks Brett for the link.
Quartus, actually I supported Sen. McCain up until
the time he started "flipp flopping" on the gun control
issue. I've always admired this veteran naval officer;
especially after reading the book entitled Honor
Bound the story of American POWS in southeast
Asia from 1961-1973.
Quoting from the book. "No American aviator arrived
in Hanoi in worse shape than Navy LTCDR. John McCain".
I still have a soft spot in my heart, for not only senator
McCain, other Viet-Nam POW's and MIA's; but all
Viet-Nam veterans who served in those hot, humid
jungles of southeast Asia. If in doubt, I would suggest
that you read my profile.
Respectfully,
Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member
Frohickey
September 18, 2003, 11:27 PM
Bush/Rice in 2004.
McCain is not pro-2A. Unfortunately, Bush seems to like ex-Gov/SecyHomelandDefense Tom "technicolor terrorist alert level" Ridge.
Bush/Rice in 2004. Follow this with Rice/??? in 2008.
If this happens, that swirling sound you hear is ******* Clinton's presidential aspirations going down the sewer.
Lone_Gunman
September 18, 2003, 11:39 PM
My prediction is...
Bush will absolutely pick Cheney again. Many people, myself included, think Cheney adds credibility to Bush.
But Cheney will have to go, and even he knows that. He has no chance of being president. He has a weak heart and looks like a Muppet. So about 2 yrs into the second term, he will retire, and Bush will pick Tom Ridge as the VP.
Ridge will run in 2008 for president, and Hillary Clinton will crush him.
What is now left of our Republic can not withstand four years of Hillary, and by 2012 our nation will be in chaos.
Quartus
September 19, 2003, 12:36 AM
Ala Dan, I have great respect for all who served their country honorably, ESPECIALLY those who were POWs.
But that 'honorably' part leaves out McCain. He gave military information and cooperation to the enemy in exchange for favors, when many REAL soldiers were enduring horrible torture and keeping their mouths shut.
If his Daddy hadn't been a Pentagon Big Wig, McCain would have been dishonorably discharged, as others less well connected were, for LESS.
McCain is :barf:
Ala Dan
September 19, 2003, 05:05 AM
Quartus-
No doubt torture ran rapid throughout the POW camps,
not only in North & South Viet-Nam (yes, the Viet-Cong
held American POW's too); but in Laos and Cambodia
as well.
Here in my area, there is a former POW that was held
north of Tay Ninh, near the border with Laos. Conditions
were very primitive, to say the least. Often times POW's
were in shackles or chains for long periods of time. Any
way, this U.S. Army solider was captuered and dressed
out with all this hardware; enduring severe pain for very
long periods of time. Several years after his release, one
leg had to be amputated; due to circulatory problems
arising from being held in captivity. FWIW, I've heard
some types (especailly Demo's) make statements and
downplay the "hero" status of senator McCain; but I
can't seem to find documentation to back it up!
We can only speculate as to what any of the POW's
went through. Another POW from my hometown, Navy
LTCDR. James Glenn Pirie shot down on 22 June 1967
over Hanoi told of not only periodic beating's; but the
filth and slime of a darkened dungeon type cell, with
severe torture such as being chained in a straight chair
bound at the wrists and ankles. Then having straight
pins driven underneath his fingernails; in an attempt
to extract classified information. Senator McCain can't
help that he was born to a U.S. Navy Admiral, who
rose to power all the U.S. Naval operations in Europe.
Finally, with all due respect I would like very much to
know what you are baseing your finding's of senator
McCain on? Is it factual information, or pure BS that
someone told somebody else and you heard it 3rd
person? Please include any and all links of proper
documentation that would substaniate your position.
Respectfully,
Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member
PeteyPete
September 19, 2003, 07:16 AM
Definately Rice.....She comes from humble beginnings, is extremely intelligent, can speak extemporaneously, can speak fluent Russian (which I believe will be a valuable ally in the years to come, perhaps she can expedite the process of us being "natural allies"), and we're guarenteed to get at least 50% of the black vote.
The only issue i would have w/ her running is the looney racist element of the Republican voter base. Sad to say, but there is still an element (albeit small) w/in the republican party that would rather vote for Lucifer than a black woman.
Lone_Gunman
September 19, 2003, 07:17 AM
Ala Dan,
I think most people would have great respect and sympathy for our veterans, especially POWs and soldiers who were wounded.
However, these things are not very important to me when it comes time to vote for a politician.
Take for example Max Cleland, senator for GA until 2002, when he was crushed by Saxby Chambliss. Max lost 3 extremites in Viet Nam, and was widely portrayed as a war hero. He did everything he could to get people focused on that, and to ignore his disgracefully liberal voting record. Fortunately, the voters in GA saw through this smokescreen, and got rid of him. He and the media were shocked that his status as a disabled veteran didnt get him enough sympathy vote to win. Saxby had no military experience.
Same thing would apply to McCain. McCain may have served his country well in the military, but he would not serve it well as a president. His views on campaign finance reform and the second amendment are terribly liberal, and he frequently votes with the Democrats.
Quartus
September 19, 2003, 02:45 PM
but I can't seem to find documentation to back it up!
I would like very much to
know what you are baseing your finding's of senator
McCain on? Is it factual information, or pure BS that
someone told somebody else and you heard it 3rd
person? Please include any and all links of proper
documentation that would substaniate your position.
Try reading his book, for starters. He talks about it. He tells straight out that he gave military information in exchange for medical treatment. He was in bad shape, no doubt about it. But others endured the same, and worse, and kept their mouths shut. Others cooperated, and were subject to military discipline when they returned from captivity. But they weren't sons of Admirals. Being a son of an Admiral is not a problem - getting by with treason because of it IS.
Here's ONE link:
http://www.usvetdsp.com/manchuan.htm
This one talks about him being very chummy with some VERY unAmerican folks:
http://www.americanpatrol.org/FEATURES/030405-McCAIN-CHAVEZ-PELOSI-BH/ChavezMcCainOutrage030405.html
There are plenty of others. Search on "Manchurian" and McCain and you'll get a load of links, including apologists.
Some of the charges can't be proven, but there is no doubt that McCain collaborated with the enemy - MCCAIN SAYS SO.
And there is no doubt about his disgusting public track record since coming back from Viet Nam.
Ala Dan
September 19, 2003, 02:57 PM
Thanks Quartus, I'm headed to the library to study up
on senator McCain !:uhoh:
Best Wishes,
Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member
SodaPop
September 19, 2003, 03:06 PM
The smartest thing the Republicans could do would be to run Rice for VP in 2004
We all know that is probable what is going to happen. Rice may be able to off-set much of the female/democrat vote, also.
Not much, but some of it.
I personally think Hillary is going to run. If Bush puts Condi Rice on the ticket she might as well run against Bush now than run against Condi later.
We'll see how all these possible foreign policy blunders play out. Rice may get the blame for a lot of it.
Quartus
September 19, 2003, 04:23 PM
Rice may be able to off-set much of the female/democrat vote, also.
Not much, but some of it.
I don't agree, SodaPop. I think she'd take a pretty good chunk of it. I've seen the attitudes of many in the poor black community, and a lot of them would follow the skin color, sad to say. And a lot of soccer moms would follow the gender. Not the die hards in either camp, but the mushy middle is easily swayed.
She has said she's more interested in a governorship, anyway. Look for California to have its first black, and first woman, governor in the next decade.
Sean Smith
September 19, 2003, 04:51 PM
California is one of the few things that could ruin Rice's reputation. It is just such a disaster area.
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