Can a .452 Diameter Round be used in a .45 ACP case?


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asdpoiu
November 18, 2008, 05:12 PM
I suspect the answer is no since the case has a diameter of .451, but I like to ask stupid questions.

I ask because I have been using a 230 grain round for bowling pins, which poops out when the pins get full of lead and wont carry the pin off the table. I would like to try a heavier round but I think the diameters are wrong. I use a S&W 625 for pins.

Also curious if anyone has opinions on hollow points vs lead rounds for pins. Do the hollow points actually expand in a bowling pin?

Thanks.

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NVMM
November 18, 2008, 05:16 PM
Yes.
Typically .451 is jacked and .452 is lead.

asdpoiu
November 18, 2008, 05:21 PM
So yes because the lead round is malleable and can be made to fit? What if I wanted to use a jacketed round, then no?

Thanks

rcmodel
November 18, 2008, 06:05 PM
Do the hollow points actually expand in a bowling pin?No.
They do grab hold and knock them off the table better then a RN glancing off though.

Since you are shooting a revolver & feeding isn't an issue, I would try .452", 250 or 255 grain lead SWC bullets designed for the .45 Colt.
It will take a bowling pin along for the ride, I betcha!

Speer also makes a .451", 260 grain JHP that should work well.

rcmodel

Walkalong
November 18, 2008, 07:29 PM
The Ranier 250 Gr plated bullet hits em pretty hard. Nice big flat on the front. I have shot lots of them in autos over the years. They should work great in a revolver.

JackOfAllTradesMasterAtNone
November 18, 2008, 07:43 PM
Actually, for that revolver, look for a 250gn truncated cone bullet, Lead in .452" or jacketed in .451". Slams'm hard!

I could send you a few lead ones to test if you'd like.

-Steve

Walkalong
November 18, 2008, 09:41 PM
That Ranier 250 Gr bullet is a truncated design with a wide flat.

Magnus (http://magnusbullet.powweb.com/store/page8.html) used to make a "Bowling Pin" bullet for just that. They may still. It had a huge Meplat and was slightly rounded on the sides. I do not see it on their website. Maybe it was someone else.

This one is not it, but it would work.

http://magnusbullet.powweb.com/store/media/image901.jpg


I used to shoot these when I could not get the BP bullet anymore. I still have 750 loaded up and stored in a 30 cal ammo can. Gave the other 750 to my nephew.

http://magnusbullet.powweb.com/store/media/image803.jpg

neal7250
November 19, 2008, 05:44 AM
I have loaded the rebated boat tail bullets from this company www.customprojectile.com with amazing results. These bullets are 452". I use these bullets in my XD, and both of my 1911s

Linear Thinker
November 19, 2008, 11:38 AM
Since your question was specific to a S&W 625, the answer is yes. I use .452 as-cast bullets in my S&W 25 with either Auto-rim cases or 45ACP with moon clips. They chamber fine.

When loading for autos, the .452 bullets may make chambering difficult. I just finished fixing a batch of .452 45ACP reloads for a friend, they would occasionally cause FTCs in his Gold Cup. One pass with Lee FCD, and the issue went away.

I would only use .451 bullets in autos, to assure reliability.
LT

Walkalong
November 19, 2008, 01:27 PM
I have shot thousands of .452 lead bullets in various shapes through 1911's over the years with no issues, and all this before the Lee Carbide Crimp Die was invented. :cool:

THe Dove
November 19, 2008, 08:02 PM
I cast .452 lead boolits and shoot them in a P220 Sig. I had problems with feeding but the Lee FCD took care of 99% of my problem.

The Dove

JackOfAllTradesMasterAtNone
November 21, 2008, 04:54 PM
Almost all Bullseye shooters shoot .452" diameter lead bullets. Target SWC's such as the Hensley and Gibbs profiles. -Not for pins, but that diameter is used in tighter spec match grade barrels every day without issue.

-Steve

ADKWOODSMAN
November 23, 2008, 11:28 AM
I have shot .452 lead bullets in various shapes through 1911's over the years. My current .45 ACP IPSC load uses .452 Lead RNFP for .45 colt.

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