Pressure the NRA to make documentaries & fight Michael Moore, MSNBC, etc


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wacki
November 19, 2008, 01:44 AM
Michael Moore has his anti-gun video.
It looks like MSNBC will be laying the groundwork with their new special coming out this Sunday.
The media elite has been pressuring for the destruction of the 2A.

We need to get the NRA (with it's relatively deep pockets) to push back against them with something similar to this video made by Jews for the Preservation of Firearms:

http://www.jpfo.org/filegen-a-m/2a-today-download.htm

The video impressed me enough that I just became a member (no Jewish prerequisite). It's a pretty sad state of affairs when such a small organization has the best pro-gun video out there.

So tomorrow I'm calling & emailing the NRA to voice my opinion that they need to make a documentary of their own. I hope you can join my effort.

1-800-672-3888

or email
https://www.nrahq.org/contact.asp

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alsaqr
November 19, 2008, 08:39 AM
The NRA does not have the "deep pockets" that some think. The NRA has to pick its fights very carefully. Only about 10% of NRA members ever contribute to the PVF and ILA.

Phil Lee
November 19, 2008, 09:39 AM
alsaqr says: The NRA does not have the "deep pockets" that some think. The NRA has to pick its fights very carefully. Only about 10% of NRA members ever contribute to the PVF and ILA.

True or not, as an excuse it isn't acceptable.

Michael Moore manages to fund video activities and so does JPFO. If the NRA isn't getting the money to engage in this war, it indicates a failure by NRA or a feeling by the NRA that the result isn't worth the effort.

Assume the NRA believes it isn't worth the effort -- if you feel these kinds of efforts are important, get behind JPFO and other groups that are willing to put together suitable films. Quit worrying about what the NRA is, or isn't willing to do.

Differences of opinions is why we have horse races and political races. Understand the NRA is in a pro-RKBA political race with GOA, JPFO and many other pro-RKBA groups that have different approaches and strategies. Find a horse for the pro-RKBA race and put your money on that horse that you think will run the best race.

edSky
November 20, 2008, 08:52 AM
wacki, it does bother me every time the NRA asks me for money and I am reminded that it is NOT a non-profit organization. That and the fact that they are a few days, if not weeks, behind this and other sites at reporting the news that moves us. They were all worked up prior to the election, but after the run on guns started following the election they were silent. Nothing. Why didn't they respond, even if it was just a sentence or a paragraph? Their silence was deafening.

As far as making a documentary, it isn't easy and it does take a lot of time and resources. If we were unemployed or retired, sure. That's why we contribute to folks like the NRA (or so we think).

ArmedBear
November 20, 2008, 09:06 AM
Michael Moore is through.

Best to concentrate on fighting others.

CSestp
November 20, 2008, 04:12 PM
Yea this is a great idea, because people who are against guns will be totally for guns after they watch a propaganda film on how good guns are. Just like everyone here would be against guns after watching a propaganda film like bowling for columbine...oh wait never mind.

Even if they are the crazy leftys they are still people with a somewhat rational thought process, and would see a propagana film for what it is.

archigos
November 20, 2008, 04:33 PM
Not everything is so black and white. I have a number of friends that are lukewarm on the gun issue, simply because they never thought about it (I kindof force them to do so now). If there way something that could reach people in similar circumstances, I think it'd do a ton of good.

CSestp
November 20, 2008, 04:59 PM
Go ahead archigos, make me feel stupid after what I thought was a somewhat good smart@ss comment.

Sinixstar
November 20, 2008, 05:03 PM
ugh... read my past posts in this forum. I'm plenty active. Read the credits list of the JPFO video. It has a lot of people in it. But I'm guessing you didn't watch it or you would realize that one normal man would simply have no chance of doing better.

You'd be surprised.
Perhaps many years ago when producing a film required lots of expensive equipment - that might have been the case.
These days you can pick up a decent camera that will shoot well for less than the cost of an evil black rifle - and if you're posting here, you most likely have the capabilities of editing what you shoot. Gone are the days of rolls and rolls of 16 or 35mm film and expensive editing suites.

I mean, look at snowboard movies for example. Sure some of these guys have turned it into an industry and are using super high-end gear, but there's just many who are using $1000-$3000 cameras and a laptop, and putting out quality stuff.

withdrawn34
November 20, 2008, 09:10 PM
If the NRA made a video, let's face it: it would be preaching to the choir. Any slightly anti-leaning person is going to immediately be on the defensive against such a video. Even if it was made as unbiased as possible, NRA's name on it will turn many people off immediately.

What we need are more middle-of-the-line documentaries. Many of us don't enjoy obviously biased anti-gun documentaries; what makes you think an obviously biased pro-gun documentary is going to do?

Take a middle line, present the facts, then back off. That's all you need. And surprisingly, doing just that will oftentimes make many people go "you know what, guns aren't that bad..."

Michael Moore also isn't as rabidly anti-gun as one may think. His "Bowling for Columbine" film may have made fun of a lot of notions (disclaimer: I haven't watched it), but as I understood it, it was inconclusive in its final message.

I recently read about a book I'd like to read, I think this sort of thing is best. Done by just two guys, a plain, unbiased look at Armed America. Make your own judgments. I think that all of us could benefit from this. It is actually a collection of pictures rather than a "book" by traditional standards.

http://www.armedamerica.org/

http://www.amazon.com/Armed-America-Portraits-Owners-Their/dp/0896895432/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1227055229&sr=8-1

swampshooter
November 20, 2008, 10:01 PM
edSKY, The NRA is not a tax-exempt organization because our federal govt. will not allow a tax exempt organization to be involved in politics in any way. The NRA Foundation is tax-exempt but isn't allowed to be involved in any political issues or with or oppossed to any political figures. The NRA doesn't have deep pockets because their are a lot of non-member gun owners who like to justify their lack of support with criticism of the organization. There are 40 million gun owners in this country and only 4 million NRA members, of those 4 million only 10% ever contribute anything other than their dues.We don't need to criticize The NRA or it's chairman we need to support them.

alsaqr
November 20, 2008, 10:07 PM
There are 40 million gun owners in this country and only 4 million NRA members, of those 4 million only 10% ever contribute anything other than their dues.We don't need to criticize The NRA or it's chairman we need to support them.


Excellent post.

hso
November 20, 2008, 11:03 PM
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