I've become another innocent victim of senseless gun violence


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The Wiry Irishman
November 19, 2008, 07:26 PM
I was checking my ppk/s was clear so I could do some dry fire practice, and my finger slipped off the slide, into the ejection port and onto the extractor cutout on the barrel just as the slide was coming forward. The pointy edges tore my fingertip so badly I had to disassemble the gun to wipe my own blood off the barrel! Staring down at my cruelly mangle flesh, all I could think of was "What if a child had done this? Can you imagine the trauma that poor child would have gone through?"

Combine my incident with other famous acts of gun violence like ppk slide bite, 1911 hammer bite, Garand Thumb, Scope Eye, and 1911 recoil spring plug related blindness, and you start to realize that the Brady and VPC people were right all along. These things are dangerous. I'm thinking seriously about writing my elected officials and demanding they ban my Walther. I was going to rack the slide a few times so I could learn how to do it without getting hurt, but decided not to, as that would just put me at risk of further injury. A ban would be far more effective.

Am I the only one that has had to go through this trauma? Do any of you have any harrowing stories where you were victimized by your guns?

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hobgob
November 19, 2008, 07:29 PM
1911 recoil spring plug related blindness
haha, thats awesome!

indoorsoccerfrea
November 19, 2008, 07:29 PM
my very near and dear friend who USED to be a guy tried to bumpfire his saiga shotgun from the hip...we pleaded with him for hours, but alas he wouldnt stop. he forgot to position himself correctly and proceeded to hammer his manliness repeatedly with the but of the shotgun before mercifully passing out. we managed to get the bloodthirsty gun away from him before it could do worse, but i fear for his future children...

workingstiff
November 19, 2008, 07:34 PM
One word to you sir: Darwin

catfish101
November 19, 2008, 07:39 PM
I have worked on my Rifleman impersonation and managed to mash the he** out of my trigger finger a few times. Lever actions are mean critters.

DRYHUMOR
November 19, 2008, 07:44 PM
A few blood blisters, no mangled or lost parts.

TRGRHPY
November 19, 2008, 07:45 PM
That's some funny stuff. Thank God I have never done anything like that. :rolleyes:

DoubleTapDrew
November 19, 2008, 07:53 PM
Several times. Mechanical devices=injuries if you use them enough and sometimes you have to learn what NOT to do or where not to grab the hard way. I've gotten injured more with hand tools than with firearms, and nothing serious thankfully! Them things are sharp.

WardenWolf
November 19, 2008, 07:58 PM
Let me guess, Irishman: you're left-handed. Because racking the slide with your right hand is about the only way that could happen.

jfdavis58
November 19, 2008, 07:59 PM
Let me guess, you have four thumbs and one finger on each of your three hands?


PS always hold the SKS away from your forehead/face when removing the spring.

The Wiry Irishman
November 19, 2008, 08:01 PM
Let me guess, Irishman: you're left-handed. Because racking the slide with your right hand is about the only way that could happen.

Nah, I'm right-handed. The spring on that gun is incredibly stiff, I find it far easier to grab the front on the slide (palm on top of the gun, fingers on the right side, thumb on the left) and pull back. The ppk/s isn't serrated at the front and there was still a little Ballistol on it from when I cleaned it, my hand slipped back a little, depositing my left index finger into the ejection port.

PS - Did you know that if you try to break down a Para FAL with the bolt mistakenly locked back, the dust cover will fly across the room and potentially slay a loved one?

ETA - I think it would make everyone, especially children, much safer if they banned dust covers along with that shoulder thing that goes up.

Poor East Texan
November 19, 2008, 08:07 PM
The first time I fired a semi it was a sharp! edged slide.

I had always held a revolver with my thumbs over each other. One GOOD slice later I changed my grip!

Never been Garand thumbed, 1911 plugged or SKS sprung....

Probably happen sooner or later.....

JohnKSa
November 19, 2008, 08:09 PM
Once a Ljungman removed a small part of my thumb...

WardenWolf
November 19, 2008, 08:14 PM
I am left-handed, and I shoot a scoped Saiga AK and a Romak-3. On more than one occasion, I wasn't careful enough when firing after adjusting the scope, and had the bolt handle slam into my right hand. Usually it just trashes a fingernail, but on one occasion it dug deep into the skin of my 4th finger. It still hasn't healed.

BHP FAN
November 19, 2008, 08:18 PM
''Once a Ljungman removed a small part of my thumb...''


HAW!A Hakim bit ME!My thumb still clicks...

wep45
November 19, 2008, 08:54 PM
that's why i bought a S&W 686 instead of a automatic

66912
November 19, 2008, 09:06 PM
I had a boxing match with a Knoxx cop stock. Punched me right in the mouth and I did not get one swing in. I figured out quickly that you should not be concerned with a cheek weld when firing an 870 with that stock extended!

Mike J
November 19, 2008, 09:15 PM
Scope eye made me think about a guy I used to know-every time he killed a deer he got a black eye.

ZombieKiller
November 19, 2008, 09:16 PM
You gotta be joking if you're even thinking about blaming your gun. Educate yourself and make sure your loved ones are in a safe position before trying something like that. Banning guns and gun parts? Sounds like an Obamunist to me.

3pairs12
November 19, 2008, 09:20 PM
I got bit a lever action before that hurt. Worse than that though I shoot a lot of archery with a trigger release. On more than one occassion I didn't make sure the release was all of the way on the string loop started to draw my bow ,70lbs, and had the rease give and punched my self in the face. It took me 2 or 3 times to learn to double check my release.

Loggerlee
November 19, 2008, 09:37 PM
Getting the scope ring sucks,I've never been actually injured,but it sure throws my confidence off for the rest of the day.

Five of Clubs
November 19, 2008, 09:49 PM
Reassembling a Ruger MKIII makes my blood pressure go up for days. I've learned to schedule doctor visits around it so they don't write me a prescription.

66912
November 19, 2008, 09:51 PM
ZombieKiller, I do not blame my gun or myself. It was called a "Learning Experience". It has yet to happen a second time.

scythefwd
November 19, 2008, 10:18 PM
The buffer spring on a saw will thump ya good if you slip as it comes out. Especially if you have the bolt to the rear (that phreaking hurt).

CombatArmsUSAF
November 19, 2008, 10:32 PM
My M9 bit the webbing of my weak hand as I was attempting to lock it back one day. Once I stopped crying, I successfully locked it back to find a 1/4" piece of skin in the barrel.

The Wiry Irishman
November 19, 2008, 10:42 PM
You gotta be joking if you're even thinking about blaming your gun. Educate yourself and make sure your loved ones are in a safe position before trying something like that. Banning guns and gun parts? Sounds like an Obamunist to me.

But while someone is being educated, that's just more opportunity for them to get hurt! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satire)

ZombieKiller
November 19, 2008, 10:43 PM
ZombieKiller, I do not blame my gun or myself. It was called a "Learning Experience". It has yet to happen a second time.

Sorry about the confusion, it wasn't targeted towards you. It was meant for anyone who wants to ban his gun. However, I agree with you. These accidents are all learning experiences.

And I apologize for not getting the joke Irishman. The last thing I want to do is get into a fight with a wiry Irishman, especially in a gun fight.

patsygarret
November 19, 2008, 10:45 PM
a buddy of mine was out coon hunting one night when his extremely dirty 10/22 failed to eject, as he had the gun tilted and was trying to dislodge the shell the bolt slammed shut on what he thought was a failure to extract, turned out that it was a failure to fire and when the bolt slammed the gun fired......... exploding one of his testicles. He reports that a .22 shot to the testicle hurts very badly and costs more than what a coon is worth.

savage116
November 19, 2008, 10:48 PM
When I went to push the tab down on my SKS that holds the bolt back my finger slipped and my other finger got cought between the bolt and the receiver.I did it after I was told to be careful because it would hurt if your finger got cought in it.Well I learned the hard way and it only happened once.

mavracer
November 19, 2008, 10:57 PM
I have worked on my Rifleman impersonation and managed to mash the he** out of my trigger finger a few times. Lever actions are mean critters.
Thats cause Chuck cheated he had a screw in the lever that tripped the trigger.

Any garand owner worth his salt knows to use the back of your hand to hold the bolt back.

Archie
November 19, 2008, 11:12 PM
... trying to dislodge the shell the bolt slammed shut on what he thought was a failure to extract, turned out that it was a failure to fire and when the bolt slammed the gun fired......... exploding one of his testicles.I pass on the self-righteous safety comments but...He reports that a .22 shot to the testicle hurts very badly and costs more than what a coon is worth....anyone who can take a round (even a .22lr round) to the - sorry, I can't even type that - and talk about it is far tougher than I. Amazing.

The worst that's happened to me with guns is getting my thumb stuck in the cylinder of a double action revolver.

In point of fact, knives have hurt me - at my own hand - far more than firearms ever have.

66912
November 19, 2008, 11:17 PM
PatsyGarrett That story goes far beyond just a mere learning experience.

Zombiekiller, Its all in good fun. No sweat, by the way "Obamunist", Thats a good one.

sailortoo
November 20, 2008, 12:53 AM
I'm an old time revolver guy - I have no idea what you guys are talking about! Revolvers are gentle and well behaved, and always do what they are told.
sailortoo

maddog1775
November 20, 2008, 12:56 AM
Got a Beretta bite from an M9 years ago. Classic butterbar moment.

Also, a friend of mine once broke his thumb in a Garand. The cast he had to wear was hilarious.

PS - Did you know that if you try to break down a Para FAL with the bolt mistakenly locked back, the dust cover will fly across the room and potentially slay a loved one?FN seems to like this feature. I have heard reports of M240 recoil spring assemblies impaling themselves into cinder blocks.

woodybrighton
November 20, 2008, 03:27 AM
the gas rod can fly pretty high if you strip a SLR fal while cocked.
even more amusing if your trying to teach a class and they all do the same thing:eek:
jnco carde your peers will do exactly what they tell especially if its going to lead to mayhem:mad:

SC_Ed
November 20, 2008, 04:50 AM
Long-Long Ago and in a land Far-Far Away....I had a habit of reaching through the carry handle of my M16 to hit the bolt release. Once, in a very big hurry to reload I somehow had my pinky finger in the chamber when the bolt slammed shut, Not recommended! LOL

Killermonkey21
November 20, 2008, 05:13 AM
One of my SGT's still carries the scar above his eye where he disassembled his M249 SAW with the bolt to the rear...yeah, I'm lucky to never had that happen to me.

Oh, and we had to watch a video of what happens when a M2 Browning .50 cal bolt is back and the spring is released...it imaled itself in a cinder block...not cool.

Other than that, only my pride has been hurt. Had to search for the recoil spring for half an hour in the arms room when I was trying to be slick with an M9...the armorer was not impressed.

bikerdoc
November 20, 2008, 05:30 AM
Gentlemen, please be advised I will not sharpen any of your knives without a written release absolving me from all responsibiltiy for injury to yourself.
seriously, who has not done some of the things mentioned? thanks for passing on the education.

foghornl
November 20, 2008, 07:50 AM
Some things that belong in the "...Never Mind HOW I Know, I Just Know!" category.

'Spin-cocking' a full size Marlin 336/30A/1895 a-la "The Rifleman" WILL get you smacked in the face by said gun....{N.M.H.I.K., I.J.K!}

Pressing that little silver shiny thing waaaay back inside a Rem 1100 receiver WILL cause it to slam the bolt home, poking a hole in the web of your hand with the extractor....NMHIK, IJK

Loading up your "Pistol-Grip-Only" shotgun with Serious Duty magnum buckshot, then attempting to 'wingshoot' a clay target by swinging shotgun up and pointing as though it had a normal stock on it WILL result in a severely mooshed face, complete with 'Rocky Raccoon' eyes, bloody nose and 'Fat Lips'...NMHIK, IJK

Not moving your hand out of the way fast enough while reloading the US Rifle Cal .30 M1 WILL result in a condition known as "Garand Thumb"...NMHIK, IJK (actually, this is only a rumor, as {so far} I have managed NOT to slam the M1 bolt home on my hand.)

Trying the "Speed Load" on a break-open single-shot shotgun without sufficient slo-mo practice first, WILL result in jamming your thumb into a hot chamber...NMHIK, IJK

A scoped bolt-action .338WinMag rifle has SIGNIFICANTLY more recoil than a similar model scoped .22LR, and if the .338WM is held as loosely as the .22...well an instant membership in the "Half-Moon-Scar-Above-The-Eye Club" is awarded...NMHIK, IJK

Not really 'gun violence' but more like 'gun sneakyness'...The smaller a part that has been removed from a firearm, the more likey it is to run off the table and hide in the carpet, under a cabinet, etc...

gregormeister
November 20, 2008, 07:59 AM
We were shooting skeet at the farm and I thought I'd be funny and shoot both barrels of my 12 guage double barrel. When I pulled the triggers (you gotta pull hard on those ole' puppies too!!) I realized all too late that the clearance between the two are terribly small.

So a blackened nail and a nasty gash above the cuticle is what I earned from that. OUCH!!! Oh and I did hit the clay bird!!

6_gunner
November 20, 2008, 08:04 AM
I once lost half of my right thumbnail to my Mosin Nagant m1891. I have absolutely no idea how it happened, but my thumb must have been in the way of something, because when the rifle recoiled, it took my thumbnail with it. Never happened before, and I was holding it the way I always have.

Dookie
November 20, 2008, 06:27 PM
I'm an old time revolver guy - I have no idea what you guys are talking about! Revolvers are gentle and well behaved, and always do what they are told.
sailortoo

Nothing like shaved lead and hot gasses coming out the side and giving you a nice burn. :cuss:

Matrix187
November 20, 2008, 06:38 PM
One time my ruger mk 3 22 pistol slam fired into the floor in my room :what:

ZombieKiller
November 20, 2008, 07:08 PM
I'll give you guys a lesson learned on my part.
So, this is when I just got my brand new Taurus PT1911. It was blued, with gold trigger/safety/hammer/beavertail/etc. I got some gold dot pet food to go along with it, so I loaded and unloaded the gun all night in my room. I sat down, and ended up cocking the gun, and while the gun was pointed toward my feet, I tried decocking my 1911. The problem was, I decocked a tad too fast and ROAR. I go deaf for a little bit, then I hear ringing in my left ear. I see smoke and I put the gun down. By now I'm freaking out. I look down, and a chunk of my right foot is missing! Nah, I'm just kidding. What ended up happening was I shot the floor. Thank the Lord that I did not shoot myself in the foot that night, especially with a .45 hollow point!

Matrix187
November 20, 2008, 07:30 PM
Exactly. Buy a sandbag if you're going to cycle any rounds in your gun inside a building. My .22 pistol slam fired and missed my dog by 2 feet, and my FEEt by 2 feet. It was so close to hitting either me or my dog. It seems like it was a warning sign telling me to be even safer with guns, and ever since i've been much safer.

vzenmn
November 20, 2008, 08:25 PM
foghornl. I got some more.

When you are shooting some old unknown surplus ammo in your M1 Garand and it fails to fire. It is a good idea to wait 10 seconds an then use the proper way to extract a dud as shown in the US Army manuel (If you don't have on then get one). Because if you don't and you use your trigger finger to pull back on the oprod, You may end up with a very sore, swollen, brused, and useless middle finger.

An M1 thumb takes a good 3 to 4 months to grow back its thumbnail.

Be very careful where your leg is when you are putting the trigger housing back on your SKS with the bolt open.


When you are depressing the firing pin spring on your m98 mauser make sure it is in a position where it will not slip. That firing pin will pierce skin.

When your shooting buddy has just finished going through two 40 rd mags in his Mini 14 as fast as the trigger can be pulled, and then hands it to you to put back on the rack. Try to remember NOT to grab it by the barrel.

When you are taking apart your new SIG P6 pistol for the first time, remember to flip the take down latch up before you hit the slide release. If you don't the slide will fly across the room and break something.

I hope this advise helps you all from commiting such acts of stupidity. But if not at least you know your not alone.

mavracer
November 20, 2008, 10:48 PM
K I got a few
be very careful when shooting down a steep grade with a scoped 22 as the barrel can be pointed at your boot but not seen in the scope,lucky for him my BIL was wearing my boots ( I wear 11s he wears 9s) but i still had a hole in my boot.
never check if the safety on your 12 guage is on by pullin' the trigger sitting on a haybale with the stock resting on your thigh.(charley horse)

my brother was duck hunting in the marsh had ducks come right at him from the front and fly right over head.If this ever happens to you only shoot twice cause when you can't move your feet three WILL cause you to loose your balance and land ftat on your back.

and last but not least when your .54 cal BP rifle is missfiring hold it firmly against your shoulder because the third time it might just hang fire just as you get it about 2-3" away from your shoulder.that was ten years ago and my shoulder still twinges when I think about it.

Hoplophile
November 20, 2008, 10:53 PM
I've suffered acute nose-knock from an AK charging handle, chronic oily-hands from handling bolt assemblies, and once, I racked the slide really hard and it hurt my ears :-(

The Wiry Irishman
November 20, 2008, 11:55 PM
When your shooting buddy has just finished going through two 40 rd mags in his Mini 14 as fast as the trigger can be pulled, and then hands it to you to put back on the rack. Try to remember NOT to grab it by the barrel.

Or, as a friend of mine found out, after a long range session with your AR, DO NOT put it directly into your foam-lined soft case. Apparently it takes quite some time to scrape melted foam off of a barrel.

Ignition Override
November 21, 2008, 12:11 AM
On YouTube there is a video I discovered (while searching for Minis, SKS, MN etc) of a young lady about 21 who is holding a rifle or shotgun about three inches in front of her shoulder.

And she has the scope a bit in front of her.
These young guys with her were so glad to have this kid try to fire a gun, probably for the first time on video, that they forgot to give her the most basic advice.

After the scope hits the left eyebrow, you can easily see a good bit of blood after only about five seconds. Doubt that she will ever like guns after that, because of those dorks who assumed that she would figure it out on her own before trying to squeeze the trigger.

wep45
November 21, 2008, 12:51 AM
something like ejected cartridges??:eek:

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